More Peafowl Varieties

[TacticianLyra]

There are many other equally-beautiful color varieties that can possibly be implemented as of the Europe pack update.

And while I remember reading here on the forum somewhere that piebald specifically wasn't on the plan list due to them being captive-only, by that logic the white peafowl should never have been in the game either, as they are also only found in captivity due to their coloration making it impossible to hide from predators.

 

[peafowl]

totally agree! lots of zoos have the pied varieties in real life

 

[Firestar97]

totally agree! lots of zoos have the pied varieties in real life

Also the Argument ,,doesn't appear in the Wild" doesn't count there because all or at least most of those Variations can appear naturaly but as I've already written somewhere else, they are extremely rare in wild Populations because both Parents need to have the Gene that is responsible for the Mutation.
The Argument doesn't even make Sense due to the Inclusion of leucistic Siberian Tigers because only Bengal Tigers and Subspecies Hybrids with Bengal Tiger Ancestry are known to be leucistic

 

[peafowl]

Also the Argument ,,doesn't appear in the Wild" doesn't count there because all or at least most of those Variations can appear naturaly but as I've already written somewhere else, they are extremely rare in wild Populations because both Parents need to have the Gene that is responsible for the Mutation.
The Argument doesn't even make Sense due to the Inclusion of leucistic Siberian Tigers because only Bengal Tigers and Subspecies Hybrids with Bengal Tiger Ancestry are known to be leucistic

yup.. mutations came from somewhere at some point, happening spontaneously. theres an endless amount of reasons why their argument doesnt make sense. like, we got a domestic llama for example lol

 

[NZFanatic]

Also the Argument ,,doesn't appear in the Wild" doesn't count there because all or at least most of those Variations can appear naturaly but as I've already written somewhere else, they are extremely rare in wild Populations because both Parents need to have the Gene that is responsible for the Mutation.
The Argument doesn't even make Sense due to the Inclusion of leucistic Siberian Tigers because only Bengal Tigers and Subspecies Hybrids with Bengal Tiger Ancestry are known to be leucistic

It doesn't matter whether they occur in the wild or not - Frontier's position on this has always been that they consider them domestically bred colour morphs and therefore aren't going to include them.

 

[Firestar97]

It doesn't matter whether they occur in the wild or not - Frontier's position on this has always been that they consider them domestically bred colour morphs and therefore aren't going to include them.

I wonder if all Color Variations of domesticated Bactrian Camels also appear in feral Populations.
There are some really nice looking ones. For Example:

https://www.pexels.com/photo/herd-of-bactrian-camels-of-different-colors-in-desert-area-4321182/

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Source: https://youtu.be/sO_QD0VO-s4

 

[NZFanatic]

I wonder if all Color Variations of domesticated Bactrian Camels also appear in feral Populations.

Feral is not the same as wild. Feral populations are domestic populations that have either escaped to or been released to the wild and established themselves as a new gene pool. When domestic colour morphs, like those camels, appear, it's because they're full of artificially-selected traits that express themselves as the feral population propagates.

 

[Firestar97]

Feral is not the same as wild. Feral populations are domestic populations that have either escaped to or been released to the wild and established themselves as a new gene pool. When domestic colour morphs, like those camels, appear, it's because they're full of artificially-selected traits that express themselves as the feral population propagates.

Of course I know what feral means. Could still be that some Mutations of the captive Population don't appear in the feral Population

 

[NZFanatic]

Of course I know what feral means.

Oh, sorry, you replied to my comment about wild peafowl with a post about feral camels, so I assumed you thought they were synonymous. My apologies.

To be honest I don't fully agree with Frontier's stance on this subject anyway. The Bactrian camel is explicitly the domestic species and so a variety of colour morphs should be available, like with the llama. Likewise, I'd argue that colour morphs should be available for the peafowl, too, because there is no separation between wild birds and domestic stock in terms of speciation (they're still the same species, even the same subspecies AFAIK), and most zoos get their peafowl from locally-bred "domestic" markets anyway. I once went to a poultry auction to buy chickens for my mother, and there were two zookeepers there buying a Lady Amherst's pheasant from a breeder. If the animal isn't part of a specialised captive breeding programme, then sourcing it is easy, and I honestly can't think of a zoo that is deliberately trying to breed Indian peafowl for conservation.

So it follows that the ones we keep in Planet Zoo ought to be from domestic stock.

 

[tigris115]

I agree with NZ. The "hasn't appeared in the wild rule" is kinda stupid, especially with the Siberian tiger thing.

Ofc people would be hella mad if u got rid of the white Siberian tigers but I think people would be happier if we had more variants for certain animals like wolves, peafowl, etc.