Multi-Account Support Seriously Lacking

I know I'm not in the majority with four accounts over multiple machines in different locations, but there are folks with more than one account who are sure to run into the same issues I experience.

First, the Frontier store. Let's get this clear. When I go to the Frontier store I'm usually going to buy something and I typically want it on all four accounts. To buy anything, I need to logon, select the items, go to the cart, check out, type out my CC info, name, expiry date, etc. (because PayPal is not an option), validate the purchase on my bank CC phone app then sign out. Repeat that three more times. I've had my CC locked on multiple occasions by my bank doing this as multiple small amounts charged from the same company are treated as "suspicious activity". Until I call the bank, I can't use my CC, resulting in my having to reenter all the info after it gets unlocked because the store session times out. I am trying to give Frontier money and they are making it as hard as possible for me to do that. That's a core business issue that needs to be addressed ASAP.

Second, account validations. I had a HD crash on one of my machines so I restored from a backup. Went to run Elite and it popped up saying my launcher was out of date. Downloaded the new version and installed it. Ran the launcher and it asks me to login. The launcher does not tell you what email the installed account is registered under (even though I've selected it to remember my email and password) so I have to literally bring up a spreadsheet to enter the right email. On that sheet is also where the game is installed because the launcher only remembers the last place where it was installed. Then I can't play until I login with a emailed validation code, then wait for the updates to download. Repeat three more times. During major updates, this has happened to me on three different computers meaning I've had to do this process TWELVE Times to get the various accounts to boot.

Streamlining the above to support multiple accounts / purchases and registrations is long overdue.
 
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I know I'm not in the majority with four accounts over multiple machines in different locations, but there are folks with more than one account who are sure to run into the same issues I experience.

First, the Frontier store. Let's get this clear. When I go to the Frontier store I'm usually going to buy something and I typically want it on all four accounts. To buy anything, I need to logon, select the items, go to the cart, check out, type out my CC info, name, expiry date, etc. (because PayPal is not an option), validate the purchase on my bank CC phone app then sign out. Repeat that three more times. I've had my CC locked on multiple occasions by my bank doing this as multiple small amounts charged from the same company are treated as "suspicious activity". Until I call the bank, I can't use my CC, resulting in my having to reenter all the info after it gets unlocked because the store session times out. I am trying to give Frontier money and they are making it as hard as possible for me to do that. That's a core business issue that needs to be addressed ASAP.

Second, account validations. I had a HD crash on one of my machines so I restored from a backup. Went to run Elite and it popped up saying my launcher was out of date. Downloaded the new version and installed it. Ran the launcher and it asks me to login. The launcher does not tell you what email the installed account is registered under (even though I've selected it to remember my email and password) so I have to literally bring up a spreadsheet to enter the right email. On that sheet is also where the game is installed because the launcher only remembers the last place where it was installed. Then I can't play until I login with a emailed validation code, then wait for the updates to download. Repeat three more times. During major updates, this has happened to me on three different computers meaning I've had to do this process TWELVE Times to get the various accounts to boot.

Streamlining the above to support multiple accounts / purchases and registrations is long overdue.

I mostly agree with you, but not entirely.

You're one person playing the game. You have multiple CMDRs, multiple careers, whatever you want to call it. As long as you're one person playing the game I don't believe you should have to pay full price for multiple copies of the game, using multiple e-mail addresses, and so on and so forth.

I have no problem going to the frontierstore and paying $20 for an additional career. I would most likely break down and pay the full $60 for an additional career if that's what they wanted to do. I just want one login, one frontier account, and when I spend money on cosmetics I want to be able to use them across all of my CMDRs.
 
I think it's to prevent multi-account spamming on one unit. Only one instance per unit (PC, XBox, etc) prevents exploits, cheats, supports DRM, etc.

In other words, these guys are paranoid control freaks. Plus, you have to pay full price for the base account (PC, Mac), so they make more money. They think.
 
Why isn't Paypal an option?

I have 5 licenses, but only 2 installs. One Steam and the other FD. Both use the same options folder, so only one set of bindings, etc.

Either install will play any of the 5 accounts. I can fly two CMDRs at the same time on one machine. I'm confused as to why you need a spreadsheet and separate installs for each account. Unless you fly all 4 at once on the same computer?

<edit> I agree that FD could make it easier, though. </edit>
 
Why isn't Paypal an option?
It used to be and disappeared from my options within the first 6 months.

I'm confused as to why you need a spreadsheet and separate installs for each account. Unless you fly all 4 at once on the same computer?
Each is installed separately to run on the same Windows profile. If one is updating, I can run the others. Plus, no email confirmation normally if I swap accounts. Different physical locations means different hardware and resolutions / bindings.

The spreadsheet tells me which account is installed where. I do have just one install on my newest machine with four seperate launcher installs pointing to it. I only run one at a time. It's enough.
 
For the login issues of having to retype everything over and over, it may be worth checking out something like Lastpass or Roboform.

Why Frontier cannot link these accounts or offer another CMDR slot to make things easier though. Sounds like it would make things a hell of a lot easier for CMDRs like yourself.
 
You might want to open a ticket about the Paypal option. I just bought some weapons colors to test this out about a minute ago.

FD_Store.jpg


Maybe support can sort it out for you.
 
Each is installed separately to run on the same Windows profile. If one is updating, I can run the others. Plus, no email confirmation normally if I swap accounts. Different physical locations means different hardware and resolutions / bindings.

The spreadsheet tells me which account is installed where. I do have just one install on my newest machine with four seperate launcher installs pointing to it. I only run one at a time. It's enough.
You can also run different accounts using different windows accounts, using run as to avoid relogging. You do not need separate installs (even for launcher), you still have separate configs (as they are stored in user profile) and no validation emails, and at least to me it seems less messy.

Totally agree that having multiple commander slots, payed if they want "moar money", would be really nice to have.
 
You might want to open a ticket about the Paypal option. I just bought some weapons colors to test this out about a minute ago.

https://image.ibb.co/jhkrmn/FD_Store.jpg

Maybe support can sort it out for you.

My bet is that when the OP says that Paypal isn't an option they aren't saying that the store doesn't offer the option. There's probably some personal reason whey the OP has chosen not to use Paypal.

Including my son's account I have four accounts. Easily managed because I use gmail so the account are named something similar to: address+slot1@gmail.com, address+slot2@gmail.com, address+slot3@gmail.com, etc. I use paypal so I don't have to type in my details over and over again ... though if you use Chrome you could probably get Google Wallet to cache your credit card info.
 
I would buy a second account/Cmdr, if I could just use a login as CMDR A or CMDR B from the main menu.

Until then I cant be bothered to mess about with multiple emails etc.
 
It would be nice to handle my 3 accounts under a single login. It would be nice for all paint pakcs to share. It would be nice if an additional slot was $20

Hmm, just a minute this requires effort from FD, to write a commander selection screen. They would lose store revenue - which as Beyond is free - is the only contribution ED is making to FD top and bottom line this year.

Other than "I would like", I am not seeing a business case for Frontier, I mean the majority of people in this topic already have multiple accounts, so it is not like they are losing revenue.

Simon
 
It would be nice to handle my 3 accounts under a single login. It would be nice for all paint pakcs to share. It would be nice if an additional slot was $20

Hmm, just a minute this requires effort from FD, to write a commander selection screen. They would lose store revenue - which as Beyond is free - is the only contribution ED is making to FD top and bottom line this year.

Other than "I would like", I am not seeing a business case for Frontier, I mean the majority of people in this topic already have multiple accounts, so it is not like they are losing revenue.

Simon

Yeah, they have our money. :(
 
I dont know if its just because im nicotine deprived this morning, but this thread is extremely frustrating. I thought it was just bait, but the serious comments keep coming.. Multiple accounts are the tools of botters and 5c. Ppl exerting excessive & undue influence. Even if OP isnt doing that, for goodness sake dont call for changes that would make that kind of thing easier. The BGS/PP in ED would have more legitimacy if people were restricted to blazing their own trail, instead of blazing their own trail *+the trail of as many doppelgangers as they can afford. Its pay to win, or pay to be a pain in the , at least.
 
I dont know if its just because im nicotine deprived this morning, but this thread is extremely frustrating. I thought it was just bait, but the serious comments keep coming.. Multiple accounts are the tools of botters and 5c. Ppl exerting excessive & undue influence. Even if OP isnt doing that, for goodness sake dont call for changes that would make that kind of thing easier. The BGS/PP in ED would have more legitimacy if people were restricted to blazing their own trail, instead of blazing their own trail *+the trail of as many doppelgangers as they can afford. Its pay to win, or pay to be a pain in the , at least.
That's why most MMO-s allow either unlimited or very high number of characters on single account, but do not allow simultaneous logins. This way most if not all regular users who just want different characters for some reason (be it roleplay, experimentation, separate pvp/pve characters or whatever) do not need multiple accounts and do not have to jump into, usually shady as you absolutely correctly mentioned, business of running multiple accounts, potentially at the same time.
Most people in this thread want exactly this - multiple characters, not the ability to use them at the same time multiple accounts give.
 
That's why most MMO-s allow either unlimited or very high number of characters on single account, but do not allow simultaneous logins. This way most if not all regular users who just want different characters for some reason (be it roleplay, experimentation, separate pvp/pve characters or whatever) do not need multiple accounts and do not have to jump into, usually shady as you absolutely correctly mentioned, business of running multiple accounts, potentially at the same time.
Most people in this thread want exactly this - multiple characters, not the ability to use them at the same time multiple accounts give.

ESPECIALLY in this game where the "map" is huge. Totally plausible that one person would want to have a character in the bubble, a character in Colonia, and a character out in the black somewhere.
 
I think it's to prevent multi-account spamming on one unit. Only one instance per unit (PC, XBox, etc) prevents exploits, cheats, supports DRM, etc.

In other words, these guys are paranoid control freaks. Plus, you have to pay full price for the base account (PC, Mac), so they make more money. They think.

Well considering that using multiple accounts is in vouge to manipulate the BGS a criminal CMDR and a clean one they are not paranoid. multi account exploitation is a thing.
 
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