To FD just wanted to share my expeince of multicrew so far as i hope my feedback will help in some way. its not a whinge or at least im trying for it not to be.. im still playing and by no means even close to being capable of making a game or any aspect of this game with the same quality. we just got the wrong idea.
So me and my nephew were quite up for this multi crew thing, thinking were now going to be treking round space together or something, anyway, first off i wanted to leave the 2.3 as a supprise to some extent, and have not read patch notes, i like to be suprised by new content, so just have a general idea, so we test out the multi crew. very excited at this point.
he joins my ship and we decide that we would like to do some Questing together with a bit of RP along the way, + hes a little low on cr atm and still a novice rank for combat, and has invested more time in trading, but that turns out to be a bit of a flop, apprt from having to boot him to go into outfitting and re invite etc which is a bit annoying, ontop of the occasional disconnect, no missions are available for us both or can he pick anything up or even read anything at all, he gets no money not even 5% of the value of the quest I hand in..yet my pilot takes 10% when not even with us, and no rep or meterials etc, so thats the first hour of questing 0cr pay out.. 10% cut for my npc whos not even with us.. his experince is to just sit there .. and reconnect a few times for nothing.
then we decide ok lets go to the community goal, atm the CG @ Gandii, is combat bonds.. so we go all the way there, we start to take down a few mobs and he notices he is getting nothing, my npc pilot is getting 10% so we go hand in and again nothing, no contributions to cg, so thats a no..
couple of hours later, we then decide to do some exploration i asked him to plot a course to xxxxx, he cannot .. so thats that ..im not sure what you can do.
ok were now down to one thing left i can think of .. extraction sites.. ok lets go .. get there .. kill 1 mil worth of stuff he gets like 50k cr before he disconnects again so we been multi crewd for 5 hours and he gets 50k odd total my afk pilot on the other hand is on far higher cut and not even with us she made near on 1 mil from the quests and trade activities while not even on board. so this is not ideal..
mining .. hes better of in his own small ship (cobra) or type 9, prospecting for us both for Painite etc cant see any value as you can loot the same node as many times as there are players and he wont get any cut anyway it seems.
without a longwinded ship transfer with limpits.
was considering powerplay but we already know it wont work with that either... so didnt even bother to try. + were not to inclined to get massive wanted bounties on us for powerplay merits.
pirating well theres more profit for my npc crew whos not with us than my nephew and he gets no loot, rewards, just gets to do half the job any competent pilot can do.. without the pay.
im really struggling to see any positive reason why you would want to multi crew he cant even fly the ship, other than to A. waste time B. grab some screen shots, C. troll and use all your scb, as there are no rewards that are close to anything viable or any reason to RP together that i can see even if it was 5% of the mission money which wouldn't make questing viable anyway, cant read quests or do the same ones in ships anyway, we still cant do stuff together really, i just dont get it.
while making no money per hour, my nephew has now pointed out the colors of the interior of the anaconda and its blandness, and now i dont like it either ..lol
camera i really like but cant control it yet, and want to use the mouse to look around but seemingly cant do that... no idea whats going on..its now turned into joystick controls combined with flight somehow.. i really need to start over, ill try again some other time.
edit : got the pervious camera mode semi working again.. but it wont stay still anymore.. ill try again later.
new bases are nice .. and a welcome change ive not seen them yet though but its very much needed. you can only see the same thing over and over so many times.
just wanted to share my experience in the hope that it will improve on matters.
ive tried serching for ships to join and rarely is one avaialble, ive also set up my self and got a few people and one got me wanted with a 6 day bounty that i cant get rid of in a area where im questing for a permit, so thats just dandy. another poped all my scb's ..ive learnt to turn off moduals so they can't be spamed or i cant get killed in a station due to the gunner being able to shoot inside the no fire zone, or "accidently" pop all 6 scbs in one go.
i have had one time where one guy joined i didnt really want another it was going well he was doing a good job..was fun and we actually took about 10mil in bounties, the other guy comes takes over from my elite pilot .. and starts getting all my ships destroyed.. so ive not figured out a way to only have one extra crew only for conda.
im sure many of the above things have been talked about but as far as my nephew is concerned hes not played since ;( i keep making excuses but i guess we expected too much from the update.
(i now have ship transfer icons that wont go what so ever, quest icons that only go when i relog, and docking computer no longer works on any ship, which actually im quite enjoying.. the other bugs i guess you know about from beta 1 that are still present.
on the possitive its much faster menues, pressing esc , opeining map much more responsive, however the sun resolution makes gives me 1 fps for around 4 seconds as it renders in upon exiting witch space., even when trying to look away as soon as possible, new gpu required i think anyway. (HD5770) as old as some of the kids on here.
thanks. hope it helps, keep up the good work. everything else is a possitve... or at the very least the foundation for some.. people are pationate and angry sometimes as they love the game and want it to be everything at once instantly .. its not a fast food restuant the dev game thats for sure
thanks again.
(quite a rant sorry.)
So me and my nephew were quite up for this multi crew thing, thinking were now going to be treking round space together or something, anyway, first off i wanted to leave the 2.3 as a supprise to some extent, and have not read patch notes, i like to be suprised by new content, so just have a general idea, so we test out the multi crew. very excited at this point.
he joins my ship and we decide that we would like to do some Questing together with a bit of RP along the way, + hes a little low on cr atm and still a novice rank for combat, and has invested more time in trading, but that turns out to be a bit of a flop, apprt from having to boot him to go into outfitting and re invite etc which is a bit annoying, ontop of the occasional disconnect, no missions are available for us both or can he pick anything up or even read anything at all, he gets no money not even 5% of the value of the quest I hand in..yet my pilot takes 10% when not even with us, and no rep or meterials etc, so thats the first hour of questing 0cr pay out.. 10% cut for my npc whos not even with us.. his experince is to just sit there .. and reconnect a few times for nothing.
then we decide ok lets go to the community goal, atm the CG @ Gandii, is combat bonds.. so we go all the way there, we start to take down a few mobs and he notices he is getting nothing, my npc pilot is getting 10% so we go hand in and again nothing, no contributions to cg, so thats a no..
couple of hours later, we then decide to do some exploration i asked him to plot a course to xxxxx, he cannot .. so thats that ..im not sure what you can do.
ok were now down to one thing left i can think of .. extraction sites.. ok lets go .. get there .. kill 1 mil worth of stuff he gets like 50k cr before he disconnects again so we been multi crewd for 5 hours and he gets 50k odd total my afk pilot on the other hand is on far higher cut and not even with us she made near on 1 mil from the quests and trade activities while not even on board. so this is not ideal..
mining .. hes better of in his own small ship (cobra) or type 9, prospecting for us both for Painite etc cant see any value as you can loot the same node as many times as there are players and he wont get any cut anyway it seems.
without a longwinded ship transfer with limpits.
was considering powerplay but we already know it wont work with that either... so didnt even bother to try. + were not to inclined to get massive wanted bounties on us for powerplay merits.
pirating well theres more profit for my npc crew whos not with us than my nephew and he gets no loot, rewards, just gets to do half the job any competent pilot can do.. without the pay.
im really struggling to see any positive reason why you would want to multi crew he cant even fly the ship, other than to A. waste time B. grab some screen shots, C. troll and use all your scb, as there are no rewards that are close to anything viable or any reason to RP together that i can see even if it was 5% of the mission money which wouldn't make questing viable anyway, cant read quests or do the same ones in ships anyway, we still cant do stuff together really, i just dont get it.
while making no money per hour, my nephew has now pointed out the colors of the interior of the anaconda and its blandness, and now i dont like it either ..lol
camera i really like but cant control it yet, and want to use the mouse to look around but seemingly cant do that... no idea whats going on..its now turned into joystick controls combined with flight somehow.. i really need to start over, ill try again some other time.
edit : got the pervious camera mode semi working again.. but it wont stay still anymore.. ill try again later.
new bases are nice .. and a welcome change ive not seen them yet though but its very much needed. you can only see the same thing over and over so many times.
just wanted to share my experience in the hope that it will improve on matters.
ive tried serching for ships to join and rarely is one avaialble, ive also set up my self and got a few people and one got me wanted with a 6 day bounty that i cant get rid of in a area where im questing for a permit, so thats just dandy. another poped all my scb's ..ive learnt to turn off moduals so they can't be spamed or i cant get killed in a station due to the gunner being able to shoot inside the no fire zone, or "accidently" pop all 6 scbs in one go.
i have had one time where one guy joined i didnt really want another it was going well he was doing a good job..was fun and we actually took about 10mil in bounties, the other guy comes takes over from my elite pilot .. and starts getting all my ships destroyed.. so ive not figured out a way to only have one extra crew only for conda.
im sure many of the above things have been talked about but as far as my nephew is concerned hes not played since ;( i keep making excuses but i guess we expected too much from the update.
(i now have ship transfer icons that wont go what so ever, quest icons that only go when i relog, and docking computer no longer works on any ship, which actually im quite enjoying.. the other bugs i guess you know about from beta 1 that are still present.
on the possitive its much faster menues, pressing esc , opeining map much more responsive, however the sun resolution makes gives me 1 fps for around 4 seconds as it renders in upon exiting witch space., even when trying to look away as soon as possible, new gpu required i think anyway. (HD5770) as old as some of the kids on here.
thanks. hope it helps, keep up the good work. everything else is a possitve... or at the very least the foundation for some.. people are pationate and angry sometimes as they love the game and want it to be everything at once instantly .. its not a fast food restuant the dev game thats for sure
thanks again.(quite a rant sorry.)
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