Modes Multiboxing is a spreading pestilence....

[Smykes]

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TL;DNR

AS Clear and Simple as I can possibley make it....

I dont mind losing a race on a field of 10

but when 4 buddies in that 10 are all racing 6 clones each, those odds are a bit much.

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Well, sadly, another of my favourite games has just gone downhill for me..

It appears multiboxing is rife in this game as it is in others in the online world.

When is FDev going to make Elite a Standard ?

I was born and have lived in UK all my life and Britain once was a leader in most Standards across

all forms of entertainment and industry.

Call me an oldskool grumpy old fart if you wish, but where is the sense of decency amongst British game producers and gamers?

There was a time Terms & Conditions and Code of Conduct meant something.

This pestilence is spreading and it encourages deceit, which is overall not good.

I put it to FDev to once and for all enforce and rectify the practise of multiboxing in this game.

Level the playing field, and make Elite the Standard amongst UK games.

 

[Jockey79]

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It appears multiboxing is rife in this game as it is in others in the online world.

If someone owns multiple accounts, what's it to do with anyone else how many they play at a time?
They've paid for the privilege.

When is FDev going to make Elite a Standard ?

A "standard" what?

Nothing about Elite in its history has been "standard" from what I can see.

I was born and have lived in UK all my life

So?

You're not the only one.

Call me an oldskool grumpy old fart if you wish,

Forum rules wont allow it

but where is the sense of decency amongst British game producers and gamers?

There still is, Frontier are quite proud of Elite: Dangerous.

There was a time Terms & Conditions and Code of Conduct meant something.

Really?
Because I'm yet to meet any British person who fully understands them.
Heck when I was a constable I constantly met British people who didn't understand hitting other people isn't allowed, and T&Cs are more complicated.

I put it to FDev to once and for all enforce and rectify the practise of multiboxing in this game.

You do know there are various forms of "multiboxing".
So if you want to complain over something, perhaps you should be specific over what it is.

Level the playing field, and make Elite the Standard amongst Uk games.

Peoples lives are different, there is no such thing as a level playing field in life or in games.

 

[verminstar]

Im sure the point is here somewhere if one looks hard enough...so much fail in one comment, hard to know where to begin truth be told.

Oh and Im British too though not entirely sure how thats relevant...anyway back to trying to find the actual point of this...rant ^

 

[Smykes]

Multiboxing is still viewed by some as Cheating: Gaining an advantage over others....

if that is not clear enough I suggest you go back to school and re-learn some of the morale code that is obviously lacking in todays society.

I come online to escape reality most days like many who still retain some decency and sense of fair play.

Besides.. this post is aimed at FDEv for comment , and if you can bring nothing constructive or backing to my petition then good-day to you.

 

[through the hole backwards]

Go play Cricket or do some jousting.

 

[StiTch]

For games where it makes sense to multi-box such as your typical MMORPG I might agree, but ED's actual use of multiboxing is largely relegated to a free pip in multicrew. If someone's forked out £40 or whatever for an extra pip, leave 'em to deal with their own inadequacy and be on yer way.

 

[Shadowdancer]

this post is aimed at FDEv for comment

… who repeatedly stated that owning and playing several copies of the game is nothing bad. Automation is, and that's being prosecuted. If you have specific suspects, report them.

If someone's forked out £40 or whatever for an extra pip, leave 'em to deal with their own inadequacy and be on yer way.

… or get a crewmember who actually does something on top of the free pip

 

[fabittar]

You're missing the point: multiplayer - massive multiplayer, if you wish to call it that - is but a layer of DRM. The game does not support meaningful interactions between players other than wanton destruction and comms. Elite is at its core a single player game. Open play is there to add flavor.

Play solo or make a group for yourself and your friends. Better yet, join a dedicated PvE group. Multiboxing is not hurting your game in any shape or form, contrary to what happens in so many other games - proper MMOs - like Eve Online, where a multi-account miner might strip an entire asteroid field clean within the first hour of the server opening.

*EDIT*


Also, multiboxing is inconsequential to PvP. If you're actively looking for fights on the Open server, you can always pick your opponents and/or run from unfair fights.


The final nail in the coffin: I find it VERY hard to believe anybody could manually fly two ships at once. In Eve Online, sure. But in Elite? No way.

 

[Gibbon]

Because there's nothing constructive in your argument. Multiboxing has been around for years, are you suggesting a father and son can't play off of the same connection? Or that 3 or for friends sharing a house can't play together? Nonsense. get into the 21st century for gawds sake

 

[Smykes]

You want specifics instead of generalising Multiboxing ?.. ok.

I refer to the past few weeks preparations and expansions of systems to Aisling Duval space.

It was only this morning that I found out that players were using multi-accounts and multiboxing to deliver mass quantities of materials.

For those of us that do not have the hardware or physical skills or inclination to match this "gameplay" it is a clear disadvantage...

I have played 100's of games over the last 30 years and every online game seemed to eventually succumb to this abhorrent practise.

There were a few games producers that actively denied the ability to do so.. one PC, one account, one game instance.. and I daresay there are a few today.

One player and his/her skills with the tools given ingame.

I do not know whether consoles are capable of multiboxing, I have never owned one.

I put it to Fdev to step up and implement the denial of multiple copies of this game to be running simultaneously from the same IP address.

 

[StiTch]

You want specifics instead of generalising Multiboxing ?.. ok.

I refer to the past few weeks preparations and expansions of systems to Aisling Duval space.

It was only this morning that I found out that players were using multi-accounts and multiboxing to deliver mass quantities of materials.

For those of us that do not have the hardware or physical skills to match this "gameplay" it is a clear disadvantage...

I have played 100's of games over the last 30 years and every online game seemed to eventually succumb to this abhorrent practise.

There were a few games producers that actively denied the ability to do so.. one PC, one account, one game instance.. and I daresay there are a few today.

One player and his/her skills with the tools given ingame.

I do not know whether consoles are capable of multiboxing, I have never owned one.

I put it to Fdev to step up and implement the denial of multiple copies of this game to be running simultaneously from the same IP address.

We're talking about a figures contest that can be manipulated from the shadows. The idea PP is a legitimate competition has been absolutely nothing more than a facade pretty much since its inception, and basically everyone knows this.

 

[dayrth]

You want specifics instead of generalising Multiboxing ?.. ok.

I refer to the past few weeks preparations and expansions of systems to Aisling Duval space.

It was only this morning that I found out that players were using multi-accounts and multiboxing to deliver mass quantities of materials.

For those of us that do not have the hardware or physical skills or inclination to match this "gameplay" it is a clear disadvantage...

I have played 100's of games over the last 30 years and every online game seemed to eventually succumb to this abhorrent practise.

There were a few games producers that actively denied the ability to do so.. one PC, one account, one game instance.. and I daresay there are a few today.

One player and his/her skills with the tools given ingame.

I do not know whether consoles are capable of multiboxing, I have never owned one.

I put it to Fdev to step up and implement the denial of multiple copies of this game to be running simultaneously from the same IP address.

I can't see how this gives an advantage. If there were multiple people using the multiple accounts, what difference does it make who paid for those accounts and whether they are in the same place when playing or not.

If it is just one person with multiple accounts (running on multiple machines simultaneously), they still can only fly one ship at a time. The only way round that is to use automation and that is already not allowed.

 

[Smykes]

Now you are splitting hairs..

I know PP is broken.. competition in PP is influenced in all game modes,
I fly in Solo , you cant kill me, conversely I am rubbish at combat against PvP ships , I cant kill you , all things are equal,

but the fact remains that if one player believes he/she can make a difference by wasting his/her time and enjoyment ingame while others are

obviously gaining an unfair advantage, it does not help the games image.

How about if you came across a player in PvP multiboxing with Tanks/ Healers/ DPS ships all multiboxing and ganked you?

You might feel as strongly as I and others may feel about being cheated flying against multiboxing haulers.

I am done with this thread go take your salt elsewhere.

 

[StiTch]

How about if you came across a player in PvP multiboxing with Tanks/ Healers/ DPS ships all multiboxing and ganked you?

I'd congratulate them on their ability to pilot an entire wing at once without automating it. As a PvP player I am pretty gank resistant, so it would take a helluva effort.

I am done with this thread go take your salt elsewhere.

Yup, definitely me that's salty

 

[Komemiute]

I put it to Fdev to step up and implement the denial of multiple copies of this game to be running simultaneously from the same IP address.

Boy you're salty... What if they don't? You're going to stop playing?

 

[Jockey79]

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I put it to Fdev to step up and implement the denial of multiple copies of this game to be running simultaneously from the same IP address.

So because you're alone, my wife and children cannot play games with me then?
As we have 4 PCs in this house.

Also, if a house hold has multiple consoles for parents & children/siblings to game together - then as long as each has its own copy of Elite, all can join in at the same time.

At a time when the Government has appointed a Minister for Loneliness, you want to prevent families spending time together?

 

[verminstar]

Multiboxing is still viewed by some as Cheating: Gaining an advantage over others....

if that is not clear enough I suggest you go back to school and re-learn some of the morale code that is obviously lacking in todays society.

I come online to escape reality most days like many who still retain some decency and sense of fair play.

Besides.. this post is aimed at FDEv for comment , and if you can bring nothing constructive or backing to my petition then good-day to you.

Not by me its not...what ye gonna do about it?

Answer...nothing apart from cry about it on the forum...have fun old timer ^

 

[UmbraRex]

So you don't like that someone

a) buys four accounts to make use of the wing mechanics (incidentally supporting FDev's further development of E: D)
b) grinds EACH of the four accounts enough credits, one at a time to have a decent sized cargo ship
c) set up a wing and individually flys each ship out of the station and sets up wing beacon and nav locs
d) flys one ship to his destination, the other four following automatically (the only part so far where he doesn't have to each one separately)
e) lands each ship individually and sells off their cargo one at a time

Yeah, Ummm, I'm not seeing a major problem here.

 

[FrodoHobbits]

Who else apart from myself am I supposed to play CQC with?

 

[Sylveria]

Some things to consider...

How would you suggest FD approach this problem, anyhow? From a strictly technological standpoint... it's almost impossible to detect "multiboxing" unless it's admitted.

They can't block all but a single connection coming from a single IP address, as there may be multiple people playing from the same IP. Family members, friends, etc. you could have multiple people playing in the exact same instance or area, as well. You really can't even track it at the account level, because one person could be paying for multiple accounts just to keep it simplified- so how would you know just because Joe Smith has 5 accounts he is the one playing them all at once? Could be his wife (or husband) and 3 kids, for all you know.

I also have to agree that if someone is able to afford such luxuries (I know I certainly can't) as well as leveling their CMDR accounts, they've "put the work in" to justify having them to begin with.

I don't personally multibox... however, I don't "begrudge" anyone else who does simply because they're able to, either.