Newcomer / Intro My Cobra Fit

Ian Skippy

Ian Skippy
Replace Docking Computer and limpet with MRP (only in beta coriolus, but its in game). Make shields bi-weave. Drop powerplant to 4b. Solid and straightforward build for the rest. :)
 

d8veh

d8veh
You need a KWS and you don't need 3A life support. 3D LS is normally enough for RES farming unless the station is a very long way from the RES. Swap one of the HRPs for a module reinforcement.
 

yolomcswaginabx

Y
forgive me, but can you explain the difference between normal 4a shield generator and Bi Weave shield generator? Am I using the best weapon set up ?
 

d8veh

d8veh
It depends on your style of fighting. Bi-weaves are probably better for shoot and boost against single ships. I think that I'd stick with normal shields for now.
 

ArchEmperor

ArchEmperor
Great build! I wish you luck.

I would have put grade 5 Overpower engineering mod on the multi-cannons and grade 5 long range on the two beams.
I would put corrosion shell on one of them for that extra damage effect debuff.

If you get thermal overload problems you could go with grade 5 efficient mod on the beams instead, but then you will not do much damage beyond 600 m ( fall off is too steep ).

Also, you absolutely need to get Grade 5 thermal resistance on the shields.
 

Watchdog

Watchdog
yolomcswaginabx said:
ive only been playing elite a month and only got horizons a few days ago so don't have engineer access yet :/
Click to expand...

Go to a High RES site in a secure system. Scan all ships that are already Wanted with the KWS. Wait for the security ships to almost kill the Wanted ship, then cause any damage to it. You do not need to cause the most damage or deliver the killing blow. Just participate. You will get the local bounty and perhaps even some from other systems. One of the Engineers only requires a quite low number of bounty vouchers to be redeemed to send you an invite.

Worked for me like a charm. And you earn some serious cash that way too.
 

Chris Simon

Chris Simon
One thing about the Bi-weave shields.

They divide people into two groups.
Most of us love them. They have a slightly lower capacity than standard A-rated shields (in fact, they have the capacity of a D-rated shield) but they have a double recharge speed. That means that if you are getting shot and your shields are dropping and recharging repeatedly, the overall "shielded time" of Bi-weaves actually is longer, because they are "up" quicker and more often.
The down side is that your ship is going to be damaged, repeatedly which is something some people don't like. :)
(and it can be pricey)

So some people just like to slap the biggest, baddest shield generator, support it with a ton of shield cell banks and simply never lose their shields.

We call them "farmers" :p They sit all day, face-tanking enemies, topping up shields from the cells... and reading a book, I suppose... :D

People like me, we love Bi-weaves. Lighter, colder and more agile ship is more fun and real fighter doesn't mind a couple of bruises, here and there, right? :)
 
Last edited:

Evil_Merlin

Evil_Merlin
As a pew-pew type, I hate bi-weave.

Yep, they use less power and charge heck of a lot faster, but they just don't have the MJ power of full on shields.


Really don't care if bi-weave ships are lighter and faster/agile, because its not by that much (I don't engineer).

Since all I do is pew-pew, heavier shields are part of my job description.
 

goemon

goemon
well, concerning weapons, i think one of the problems of the cobra is the placement of the small hardpoints. i had a burst turret and a canonn turret there long time, and i am now running two small seeker racks (together with a medium beam and a medium multicanonn) - but if you don't have a problem with using your beams in the smalls, stick with it!

Evil_Merlin said:
Since all I do is pew-pew, heavier shields are part of my job description.
Click to expand...

the point is, with the better recharge rate of bi-weaves (whether broken or not), you'll have more total MJ during a typical res/CZ session.... just saying ;-)
 

Ozram

Ozram
Not a bad build at all. Seems combat focussed. I second the opinion that you ought to get rid of the docking computer fast. Fsd interdictor, MRP or even collector limpets would be better there and rather than a small boost to shields, I'd recommend a point defense or second chaff. Otherwise seems solid enough.
Have you done much in the way of engineering?

- - - Updated - - -

goemon said:
well, concerning weapons, i think one of the problems of the cobra is the placement of the small hardpoints. i had a burst turret and a canonn turret there long time, and i am now running two small seeker racks (together with a medium beam and a medium multicanonn) - but if you don't have a problem with using your beams in the smalls, stick with it!


the point is, with the better recharge rate of bi-weaves (whether broken or not), you'll have more total MJ during a typical res/CZ session.... just saying ;-)
Click to expand...

Yeah, I have a seeker and a rail on my smalls.
Edit: OP, for more focussed advice, check out the Owners thread.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/287776-Cobra-Mk-III-Owner-s-Club
5714x1433.jpg
 
Last edited:

Chris Simon

Chris Simon
Evil_Merlin said:
As a pew-pew type, I hate bi-weave.

Yep, they use less power and charge heck of a lot faster, but they just don't have the MJ power of full on shields.


Really don't care if bi-weave ships are lighter and faster/agile, because its not by that much (I don't engineer).

Since all I do is pew-pew, heavier shields are part of my job description.
Click to expand...

I feel like doing a bit of math.

With 2x 0A boosters, Vuture has 540MJ shield with 5A or 440MJ with 5C bi-weaves
5A have recharge time of 140s after which it recovers to half the strenght, Bi-weaves recover in 70s (half the time)

Let's say you come into an encounter that takes 3 minutes (180s) during which you take a consistent damage of 10 DPS.

5A:
Shield holds 54s, during which it takes 540MJ damage
During the rest of the duel, which lasts for another 126s you take 1260MJ of damage.

result out of 1800MJ damage taken:
Damage taken by shield: 540MJ
Damage taken by hull: 1260MJ

5C bi-weaves:
Shield holds for 44s during which it soaks up 440MJ of damage.
Then it recharges for 70s, during which you take 700MJ damage
Shield springs up at half the strength and soaks up another 220MJ damage in 22s
Then it collapeses again and during the last 44s of the match you take 440MJ of damage

Result out of 1800MJ of damage:
660MJ taken by shield
1140MJ taken by hull

Which shield is stronger, again? ;)
 

Almondclint

A
In that CG and i your Cobra, Id be fighting like Ali. Hit hard, boost away, and only when a similar size ship is fighting your target. A python will scrub you in seconds. Right now, when I get in there, its wings of Anacondas and FdLs with elite Eagles. Eagles are easy, unless theyre winged with a beast conda. All Im saying is, be wary and fight smart.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom