i7 4770k here, good to see the virtual cores being put to good use.Nice to hear as I have i7 3770k quadcore with hyperthreading
My first PC in a looong time
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Sorry, but I really do not understand the purpose of any of your posts. OP has chosen i5 4690K - Intel 4core/4thread CPU. I have advised an i7 4790K 4core/8 thread CPU as it might be better than an i5 4690K for ED and I have personally performed HT ON/OFF tests and I have seen the difference.
So what is your advise?
That next time you read more and give less worthless advice (he has a budget).
No need to be so aggressive.
The op asked for advice, most of the posts in this thread are helpful, pointlessly arguing is not.
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Sorry but you have not given any advise in this thread but only argue with me.
I have only advised an i7 so that OP might have considered this option. Why can't I make any advises that are backed by the facts?
As the there is no need to upgrade CPUs as often as earlier it is better to choose the best available CPU now and not to upgrade it for 5+ years, which in case of an i7 is much easier to achieve than if you buy i5. OP has already chosen Intel rig, this is why I am advising a more powerful Intel CPU.
Also it might be cheaper to buy components and assemble them yourself instead of buying already assembled PC.
Haswell CPUs perform better with high speed memory so it might be a good idea of buying 2400MHz RAM.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/haswell-ddr3_7.html#sect0
At the moment ED only uses four cores.
SLI works but is glitchy, half of the textures are missing but if you use force alternate frame rendering 2 (NVIDIA) you will see close to 100% framerate increase.
At Lavecon I discussed this with a developer, That guy that had a PC as big as my house! He left it alone for a little while and I rocked up and bought him a Cobra. He wasn't very happy. I was slightly confused by the mighty X55 that he was rockin'.
SLI is not very high on the list but is being worked on.
My advice is to get a demon beach ninja gfx card.
You will probably be cpu limited when it comes to framerate.
later when you are feeling flush you can upgrade the motherboard and ram and CPU.
But the first thing to consider is a decent power supply.
I recommend the Corsair RM1000.
It can actually deliver a Kilowatt continuously.
Don't skimp on the power supply.
You might lose everything else when it lets go.
I had a cheap one that failed. Powercool brand. Named and shamed.
Big blue flash and a noise like ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzt.
Everything went dark.
I was lucky.
I did not lose any other components.
I took it apart, I have never seen such bad soldering or lack of care in the manufacture. It's a wonder it passed its tests! Whatever they were?
Still the fan was good, the most expensive fan in the world. £50+
Do Not skimp on the power supply.
It sort of reminds me of people selling me 1080HD TV's that are actually 1024x768.
You will note that is a pixel density from about 20 years ago.
I am a stupid consumer. I will not research what I am buying before I part with cash.
The chip in the TV takes a well formatted High Definition signal and down renders it into 1024x768 @ 60 Hz. It's Criminal.
So you spend a lot of money getting a computer that can generate frames at 60 Hz in High Definition. Or even 120 or 140hz.
Then you plug it into your "HD" TV which is 1024 by 768.
It makes my blood boil.
Get a monitor.
SLI works but is glitchy, half of the textures are missing but if you use force alternate frame rendering 2 (NVIDIA) you will see close to 100% framerate increase.
At Lavecon I discussed this with a developer, That guy that had a PC as big as my house! He left it alone for a little while and I rocked up and bought him a Cobra. He wasn't very happy.
I was slightly confused by the mighty X55 that he was rockin'.SLI is not very high on the list but is being worked on.
My advice is to get a demon beach ninja gfx card.
You will probably be cpu limited when it comes to framerate.
later when you are feeling flush you can upgrade the motherboard and ram and CPU.
But the first thing to consider is a decent power supply.
I recommend the Corsair RM1000.
It can actually deliver a Kilowatt continuously.
Don't skimp on the power supply.
You might lose everything else when it lets go.
I had a cheap one that failed. Powercool brand. Named and shamed.
Big blue flash and a noise like ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzt.
Everything went dark.
I was lucky.
I did not lose any other components.
I took it apart, I have never seen such bad soldering or lack of care in the manufacture. It's a wonder it passed its tests! Whatever they were?
Still the fan was good, the most expensive fan in the world. £50+
Do Not skimp on the power supply.
It sort of reminds me of people selling me 1080HD TV's that are actually 1024x768.
You will note that is a pixel density from about 20 years ago.
I am a stupid consumer. I will not research what I am buying before I part with cash.
The chip in the TV takes a well formatted High Definition signal and down renders it into 1024x768 @ 60 Hz. It's Criminal.
So you spend a lot of money getting a computer that can generate frames at 60 Hz in High Definition. Or even 120 or 140hz.
Then you plug it into your "HD" TV which is 1024 by 768.
It makes my blood boil.
Get a monitor.
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I am stupid. It is painful.
I have discovered many things.
If Google gets their way then everyone will be on 1000Mb fibre up and down..
Then the cloud makes sense. If the network is faster than your internal data storage solution.....
I have discovered many things.
If Google gets their way then everyone will be on 1000Mb fibre up and down..
Then the cloud makes sense. If the network is faster than your internal data storage solution.....
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At the moment ED only uses four cores.
SLI works but is glitchy, half of the textures are missing but if you use force alternate frame rendering 2 (NVIDIA) you will see close to 100% framerate increase.
At Lavecon I discussed this with a developer, That guy that had a PC as big as my house! He left it alone for a little while and I rocked up and bought him a Cobra. He wasn't very happy.
SLI is not very high on the list but is being worked on.
My advice is to get a demon beach ninja gfx card.
You will probably be cpu limited when it comes to framerate.
later when you are feeling flush you can upgrade the motherboard and ram and CPU.
But the first thing to consider is a decent power supply.
I recommend the Corsair RM1000.
It can actually deliver a Kilowatt continuously.
Don't skimp on the power supply.
You might lose everything else when it lets go.
You are wrong ED used up to 10 threads in Alpha 3 and I doubt that this number was decreased to 4 threads later. Now I have 8 thread usage playing ED.
8 core usage:
I have an AMD FX-8350 @ 4Ghz (8 real cores, no hyperthreading shenanigans) in my machine so this might be useful to you in terms of will ED make use of 8 cores?
My CPU full spec is:
CPU: AMD FX-8350 @ 4Ghz (stock speed)
GPU: nVidia GTX 770 with 2Gb DDR5
RAM: 8Gb 1600Mhz DDR3
O/S: Windows 8.1 64-bit
In factions at 1080p, all graphics on high with vsync off I get around 35-45 fps when flying around the ships. I get a solid 60fps with vsync on when playing all the other scenarios.
Here's a screen grab of my CPUs in Task Manager when ED was running factions. ED was the only thing consuming any amount of CPU at the time. Overall it was using around 65% CPU capacity.
And here:
http://bayimg.com/LanDpaAfO
There is absolutely no need in 1KW PSU for one GPU.
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I would not worry unduly about this because whilst ED may get an advantage from HT (as people here seem to have tested and proved) there are many games that do not get an advantage or sometimes get a disadvantage. So it's not prudent to purchase a system based upon one game anyway, because clearly we'll play ED and then move onto other games. It's only an exceptional game that has made me want to play it for more than a year (Skyrim was the last one) and even then I was of course playing other games in that same time period.
I do have a Core i7 @ 4.6GHz and a GTX780 GPU. In normal play my CPU runs at about 30% across all cores in ED premium beta (with everything turned on and hitting the 120FPS barrier), so this leads me to think that you won't see a massive disadvantage from using an i5 because the CPU is doing relatively little anyway. Well in PB it's not doing much, perhaps with a larger influx of people and 'stuff', the CPU may do far more work.
Other games really don't get much of a boost from HT, I mainly run HT for professional apps that do get something of a boost.
I'm just closing down a project where we deployed a load of application servers for a UK enterprise where the application (spread across 100 or so servers) under-performed by about 12% when HT was on (Intel architecture quad CPU - 32 real cores or 64 HT in each box. AMD performed abysmally in this particular case so we ditched it early on) so we had it disabled in the BIOS across all the servers to get the best performance we could from this app. So it's not a given that HT will help every app\game you run.
Anyway, enough technical talk, enjoy your new PC!
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You've jinxed me. In the middle of tomb raider last night and all of a sudden my PC powers down without warning and won't turn back on.
I hope it's just the psu...