NA Animals: Color variations / Albinos

peafowl

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Two piebald alligators.

The color variation update was my favorite, period. It gave the animals some personality, but.. only some of them. There are species I have a weird time using because they are all identical. Nothing makes them individual and it's just.. a bummer. You breed babies but they never turn out even slightly different and that just.. gets old, ruins the immersion. I'm a sandbox player. I once had a bison that was a few shades darker than the other ones and that was just so cool to me. I spent hours on that zoo because I felt i had achieved a special animal. To me they really make a difference.

And likewise when I know that a species have a mutation (albino) or a special variation, they automatically get way more exciting for me, because then I really have something to play for.

I really really hope that there is going to be more variation and mutations going forward, and hopefully starting with this pack cause there are A LOT of interesting things out there with these species.

I thought about a few details that would be nice to include. All of the mutations are real life examples.


The bison variation (different shades and saturations) would be applicable for, well, all species, some obviously with larger sliders than others.
I don't know if they could make something (less extreme!) of the wolf variation for the arctic fox in its respective coat colors?

And for mutations

Alligator: Albino, Piebald(s)
Cougar: White
Moose: Piebald, White

Are you hoping for anything specific?
 

biggest_dreamer

biggest_dreamer
Some quick Googling suggests that every single animal in the pack (including the bullfrog) with the possible exception of the sea lion is known to exhibit albinism. Hopefully we'll see them all, but I feel like there have been several skipped recent albino species in recent releases.
 

Firestar97

Firestar97
I would really like to see a Piebald Moose. I wish we could have both a Piebald Mutation and a normal white Moose but I assume we'll only get one
 

Cynogale bennettii II

Cynogale bennettii II
Looking through 'A Field Guide to the Carnivores of the World' for information about the cougar and arctic fox, and found that the latter comes in two distinct colour morphs, which both change to different colours during the winter. The better-known of the two is the morph that is pale grey-brown with a cream underside in summer that turns white in the winter. The other (called the blue morph) is dark grey-brown in summer and pale bluish brown in winter.

Although the morphs tend to use different habitats, with the blue morph dominating particularly on islands and in coastal areas, both morphs do occur together as the photo below shows.
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I don't mind at all if the foxes don't change colour between the summer and winter coats, but having a second radically different coat colour would be rather nice to see.
 

jcp011c

jcp011c
biggest_dreamer said:
Some quick Googling suggests that every single animal in the pack (including the bullfrog) with the possible exception of the sea lion is known to exhibit albinism. Hopefully we'll see them all, but I feel like there have been several skipped recent albino species in recent releases.
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And now that I've a picture via google, I absolutely need an albino prairie dog in the game.
 

Cynogale bennettii II

Cynogale bennettii II
Markiz said:
I was about to show a picture of prairie dogs cool color variations, but in middle of writing it I realized they're kinda numbered? By spray? Anyone knows anything about it?
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From the looks of this article, this may have been part of a test by conservationists to see if temporarily dyeing numbers on prairie dogs is a suitable way of determining how well they are doing after being reintroduced to the wild:
wildlife.org

WSB: To count prairie dogs, transmit or dye? - The Wildlife Society

As wildlife managers work to translocate prairie dogs, they don’t always have the right tools to track how successful their efforts are. Researchers in Colorado recently examined the success of...
wildlife.org wildlife.org
 

peafowl

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biggest_dreamer said:
Some quick Googling suggests that every single animal in the pack (including the bullfrog) with the possible exception of the sea lion is known to exhibit albinism. Hopefully we'll see them all, but I feel like there have been several skipped recent albino species in recent releases.
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There was a golden pup born at one point that much i know. Maybe even several
 

avietar

avietar
I hope we'll get moose in different colors and shades, because you've got them almost black, you've got dark brown ones, light brown ones, and almost tawny/cream colored ones. And all these in pretty gradients over the body... And piebald! So I'd love to see that variation.
I'd be a little sad if they're only the one bland shade of brown.

Arctic fox morphs would be awesome too!
 

peafowl

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avietar said:
I hope we'll get moose in different colors and shades, because you've got them almost black, you've got dark brown ones, light brown ones, and almost tawny/cream colored ones. And all these in pretty gradients over the body... And piebald! So I'd love to see that variation.
I'd be a little sad if they're only the one bland shade of brown.

Arctic fox morphs would be awesome too!
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Yes.. they're just gorgeous
 

SotF

SotF
peafowl said:
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Two piebald alligators.

The color variation update was my favorite, period. It gave the animals some personality, but.. only some of them. There are species I have a weird time using because they are all identical. Nothing makes them individual and it's just.. a bummer. You breed babies but they never turn out even slightly different and that just.. gets old, ruins the immersion. I'm a sandbox player. I once had a bison that was a few shades darker than the other ones and that was just so cool to me. I spent hours on that zoo because I felt i had achieved a special animal. To me they really make a difference.

And likewise when I know that a species have a mutation (albino) or a special variation, they automatically get way more exciting for me, because then I really have something to play for.

I really really hope that there is going to be more variation and mutations going forward, and hopefully starting with this pack cause there are A LOT of interesting things out there with these species.

I thought about a few details that would be nice to include. All of the mutations are real life examples.


The bison variation (different shades and saturations) would be applicable for, well, all species, some obviously with larger sliders than others.
I don't know if they could make something (less extreme!) of the wolf variation for the arctic fox in its respective coat colors?

And for mutations

Alligator: Albino, Piebald(s)
Cougar: White
Moose: Piebald, White

Are you hoping for anything specific?
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There is also a melanistic american alligator.

Brian Barczyk's Reptarium has one in an exhibit shared with an albino, named Salt and Pepper...

There are also a few regional cougar variations that ought to fit there.
 

peafowl

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SotF said:
There is also a melanistic american alligator.

Brian Barczyk's Reptarium has one in an exhibit shared with an albino, named Salt and Pepper...

There are also a few regional cougar variations that ought to fit there.
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of course he does lol, but yeah melanistic one would be cool too. I just.. doubt frontier would ever give us more than one so i mentioned the two i want the most

oh, really? do you have pictures?
 

SotF

SotF
peafowl said:
of course he does lol, but yeah melanistic one would be cool too. I just.. doubt frontier would ever give us more than one so i mentioned the two i want the most

oh, really? do you have pictures?
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Found some pictures someone put up on reddit. Most of the things I've seen with them are on Brian's youtube channel...but that's more of digging back about 2 years for when there were videos about the pair and they're a lot larger now, but aren't a focus animal for whole videos and tend to just pop up in parts of it.

https://i.reddit.com/r/interestingas/comments/j7akwc/yesterday_i_posted_baby_melanistic_albino/

They currently look like they're large enough to share an enclosure with his other alligator when he does his next expansion. It's kind of fascinating to watch the videos about Brian building the Reptarium and for the current stuff finishing out the work for Snake Discovery making their reptile zoo.
 

peafowl

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SotF said:
Found some pictures someone put up on reddit. Most of the things I've seen with them are on Brian's youtube channel...but that's more of digging back about 2 years for when there were videos about the pair and they're a lot larger now, but aren't a focus animal for whole videos and tend to just pop up in parts of it.


They currently look like they're large enough to share an enclosure with his other alligator when he does his next expansion. It's kind of fascinating to watch the videos about Brian building the Reptarium and for the current stuff finishing out the work for Snake Discovery making their reptile zoo.
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I'm not a fan of Brian but i dont doubt they exist haha, i meant the cougar variations
 

SotF

SotF
peafowl said:
I'm not a fan of Brian but i dont doubt they exist haha, i meant the cougar variations
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With Cougars, it's more of different areas having color tones that someone who deals with them can identify on sight. For example, there's more of a red tone for the florida panther and more greys in the western varieties.
 

peafowl

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SotF said:
With Cougars, it's more of different areas having color tones that someone who deals with them can identify on sight. For example, there's more of a red tone for the florida panther and more greys in the western varieties.
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Thats awesome. I hope they use that.
 
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