Nebulae and Young Star Systems should get some well. Nebulae.

Dense Clouds can have more than 1000 molecules per cm^3

I actually had to laugh when I calculated that.
Cause on the distance you mentioned.
A Dense Cloud capable of Producing Stars would block just as much light as The upper Atmosphere of Jupiter.

Meaning that at this range you would likely not see a Stellar Body which is not emitting light.
Dont forget Dense Clouds are effectively the mass out of which the Stars form.
So they are by far not as *thin* as you seem to think they are.


Http://www.astrobiologia.pl/eana/intclouds.html
http://www.astro.princeton.edu/~dns/teachersguide/ScDensAct.html

1,000 molecules per cubic centimetre isn't especially dense is it?

I'm no expert but for comparison a cubic centimetre of air contains about 19,000,000,000,000,000,000 molecules.
 
1,000 molecules per cubic centimetre isn't especially dense is it?

I'm no expert but for comparison a cubic centimetre of air contains about 19,000,000,000,000,000,000 molecules.

i think you're right, and one of the links he listed has a chart that refutes his conclusion
 
1,000 molecules per cubic centimetre isn't especially dense is it?

I'm no expert but for comparison a cubic centimetre of air contains about 19,000,000,000,000,000,000 molecules.

No ^^
At least not if your talking about the general Air we got.
Its 25.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000
But there is two things you overlooked.

1.
The big share of Air is light gasses like Nitrogen and Oxygen which barely got any mass.
So while the molecular density is high.
The atomic mass is low and it blocks hardly any radiation including light.

Thats why our Planet aint looking like a Gas Giant from space.


2.
We talked about a distance of 40 light seconds.
12 million km.
Thats 1.200.000.000.000cm
You dont need such an high denskty to get am visual effect here
 
Last edited:
i think you're right, and one of the links he listed has a chart that refutes his conclusion

Read the Disclaimer.
The numbers are just for explanation and use estimates for objects.
The Molecular Cloud listed is not a dense Cloud and the estimate for Jupiter is not the outer atmosphere.
 
No ^^
At least not if your talking about the general Air we got.
Its 25.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000
But there is two things you overlooked.

1.
The big share of Air is light gasses like Nitrogen and Oxygen which barely got any mass.
So while the molecular density is high.
The atomic mass is low and it blocks hardly any radiation including light.

Thats why our Planet aint looking like a Gas Giant from space.


2.
We talked about a distance of 40 light seconds.
12 million km.
Thats 1.200.000.000.000cm
You dont need such an high denskty to get am visual effect here

That still wouldn't be sufficient density for it not to still just appear as the background in game
 
That still wouldn't be sufficient density for it not to still just appear as the background in game

Actually it is.

For 2 reasons.


1.
Especially in the Central Areas of Dense Clouds. There is an much higher concentration of heavier materials which eat up a larger amount of radiation.
(Materials which later form the Core of Planets)
Which reduces the required density tremendously.

2.
Once a Star forms the Cloud will be Condensed into an Disk around that Star. Similar to the Asteroid Rings around Gas Giants.
Greatly increasing the Density in that Area.
And most of all an effect which should actually greatly alter the visual effect because the distribution especially in early stages is not very even. Thus irregular distortions.
 
2.
Once a Star forms the Cloud will be Condensed into an Disk around that Star. Similar to the Asteroid Rings around Gas Giants.
Greatly increasing the Density in that Area.
And most of all an effect which should actually greatly alter the visual effect because the distribution especially in early stages is not very even. Thus irregular distortions.

Already in

Screenshot_0049.png


Screenshot_0057.png
 
Last edited:
Someone watches way too much Star Trek TNG.
Nebulae are incredibly, erm, nebulous.

Umm... well... even before Picard was in diapers actually...

S02-battle_in_the_mutara_nebula.png


"All that static discharge and gas. Shields and sensors will be inoperable."
"Sauce for the goose, Saavik"
 
Last edited:

I think you need another Host service.
No Pictures Showing.


And on the off chance that you posted a Screenshot of a Ringed Sun.
Sorry but thats not what it is.
The Ring of an newly Formed Star has Asteroids and other Bodies in it. But its also containing all the Gasses etc.


Albeit an Proto Star with a Giant Ring including the early forming Bodies. Would be nice as well.
An Simple Asteroid Ring that on top has the same thickness and density as the Ring of any other Gas Giant however is not even remotely doing that Justice.


To begin with even the current Asteroid Rings are a bit of an Joke on that.
They are so incredible Clean and Dust Free and Peaceful with every single Asteroid moving perfectly in ordered fashion....
 
Last edited:
So you guys come in here patronizing me about astrology and get annoyed when I point out a basic mistake you made???
Well. Goodbye then lol

Well, you've entered the realm of space Chamberlains that will defend every decision FD makes. In this thread they'll explain that space in game looks boring because space is boring irl. 'Realism is important to David Braben OBE. Realism > your dumb sci-fi ideas.' Then in the next thread they'll attack players that point out that printing SLFs is not very realistic by exclaiming 'FD is making a game here, not some sort of galaxy simulator. Fun > Realism.'
 
Back
Top Bottom