Engineers Needs An Urgent Change

[Fuglydog53]

How many times do you have to get indicted by an npc and lose a ship within 3 _ 4 shots, its not a good start for new players or getting constantly indicted with npc ships with weapons more powerful than your shields or armour can take.
Engineers you have to do a job for them to trust you, then you have to find the stuff they need while each time its constant interdicting!!!!, Christ how much more do you have to go through this? , ive lost 6 cobras this morning by keep been interdicted by npc's Until a patch comes out to cut interdictions in half I think ill be playing Star Citizen, this has got to much of a joke now, you throttle down to submit to the interdiction then 3 shots later your blown up, that's crap game macanics and it needs to be changed.

 

[Gedemon]

How many times do you have to get indicted by an npc and lose a ship within 3 _ 4 shots, its not a good start for new players or getting constantly indicted with npc ships with weapons more powerful than your shields or armour can take.
Engineers you have to do a job for them to trust you, then you have to find the stuff they need while each time its constant interdicting!!!!, Christ how much more do you have to go through this? , ive lost 6 cobras this morning by keep been interdicted by npc's Until a patch comes out to cut interdictions in half I think ill be playing Star Citizen, this has got to much of a joke now, you throttle down to submit to the interdiction then 3 shots later your blown up, that's crap game macanics and it needs to be changed.

Are there any videos showing this problem ?

 

[Sandmann]

It is now VERY important that you pay attention to the combat rank of NPC's. Skill now improves greatly with rank, and dangerous/deadly/elite NPC's are exactly that... dangerous, deadly, and elite. They do clever things like flying backwards, using thrusters, and running away when low on shields - just like you do.

 

[CMDR M Kozak]

How many times do you have to get indicted by an npc and lose a ship within 3 _ 4 shots, its not a good start for new players or getting constantly indicted with npc ships with weapons more powerful than your shields or armour can take.
Engineers you have to do a job for them to trust you, then you have to find the stuff they need while each time its constant interdicting!!!!, Christ how much more do you have to go through this? , ive lost 6 cobras this morning by keep been interdicted by npc's Until a patch comes out to cut interdictions in half I think ill be playing Star Citizen, this has got to much of a joke now, you throttle down to submit to the interdiction then 3 shots later your blown up, that's crap game macanics and it needs to be changed.

Ok, bye.

 

[frostypaw]

I think ill be playing Star Citizen

not the way to win helpful comments, but if you're happier in the playfort....

what's your combat rank fella? You might have made a rod for your own back with the old AI

 

[Altair8800]

Wondering what you're doing OP, because I don't get interdicted at all. I always have to offend some NPC first and I can take all my time to select which one I'll make angry at me.

 

[Tinman]

How many times do you have to get indicted by an npc and lose a ship within 3 _ 4 shots, its not a good start for new players or getting constantly indicted with npc ships with weapons more powerful than your shields or armour can take.
Engineers you have to do a job for them to trust you, then you have to find the stuff they need while each time its constant interdicting!!!!, Christ how much more do you have to go through this? , ive lost 6 cobras this morning by keep been interdicted by npc's Until a patch comes out to cut interdictions in half I think ill be playing Star Citizen, this has got to much of a joke now, you throttle down to submit to the interdiction then 3 shots later your blown up, that's crap game macanics and it needs to be changed.

Maybe not submitting might help? Especially if the ship attacking is of a high combat rank.

 

[Sapient6]

It is now VERY important that you pay attention to the combat rank of NPC's. Skill now improves greatly with rank, and dangerous/deadly/elite NPC's are exactly that... dangerous, deadly, and elite. They do clever things like flying backwards, using thrusters, and running away when low on shields - just like you do.

How does your advice relate to the OP's complaint about being interdicted and killed in 3-4 shots. If the player can't get away then "pay attention to the combat rank" isn't really helpful, unless you're recommending combat logging.

 

[Kyokushin]

How many times do you have to get indicted by an npc and lose a ship within 3 _ 4 shots, its not a good start for new players or getting constantly indicted with npc ships with weapons more powerful than your shields or armour can take.
Engineers you have to do a job for them to trust you, then you have to find the stuff they need while each time its constant interdicting!!!!, Christ how much more do you have to go through this? , ive lost 6 cobras this morning by keep been interdicted by npc's Until a patch comes out to cut interdictions in half I think ill be playing Star Citizen, this has got to much of a joke now, you throttle down to submit to the interdiction then 3 shots later your blown up, that's crap game macanics and it needs to be changed.

Just run, not fight. Avoid dangerous places and situations. Observe your scanner, it is easy to see when you will be interdicted and by who, you can also try to avoid interdiction instead of submitting. A bit of practice. Play the game and become better.

Have You Star Citizen? Wow. Is it released?

 

[ilo]

How does your advice relate to the OP's complaint about being interdicted and killed in 3-4 shots. If the player can't get away then "pay attention to the combat rank" isn't really helpful, unless you're recommending combat logging.

do you see OP caring about a answers? looks more like a rant post than a help request.

 

[Sandmann]

How does your advice relate to the OP's complaint about being interdicted and killed in 3-4 shots. If the player can't get away then "pay attention to the combat rank" isn't really helpful, unless you're recommending combat logging.

If he's a dangerous rank, evade like crazy. If he's harmless, don't bother. It won't stop the interdictions, but it might help with the insta-kills. Also, stay out of "traffic lanes" (another 2.1 thing). If you fly a straight line from beqcon to station you will get interdicted more than if you fly "off road". There's another thing too... the game now scales your opponents with your own rank, so if your rank is higher than your real ability because of earlier brain dead npc's you're.gonna get much higher ranked opponents tha ln you should. If that's.the cqse there's 2 options... restart your character or (as the pvpers are fond of saying) "git gud".

Observation skills and fast feet are now important, coz the NPC's finally learned how to fly.

Oh and be thankful you got the beta 6 NPC's. The beta 4 ones were MUCH better.

 

[CMDR Zhon Daeli]

How many times do you have to get indicted by an npc and lose a ship within 3 _ 4 shots, its not a good start for new players or getting constantly indicted with npc ships with weapons more powerful than your shields or armour can take.
Engineers you have to do a job for them to trust you, then you have to find the stuff they need while each time its constant interdicting!!!!, Christ how much more do you have to go through this? , ive lost 6 cobras this morning by keep been interdicted by npc's Until a patch comes out to cut interdictions in half I think ill be playing Star Citizen, this has got to much of a joke now, you throttle down to submit to the interdiction then 3 shots later your blown up, that's crap game macanics and it needs to be changed.

This is not meant to antagonise, nor insult - so I apologise if it does either.

You need to really learn how to play the game, or it's going to hurt you. It's going to bite you in the bum if you let your guard down.
You need to learn to dogfight properly. You need to know when to fight, and when to run.
You need to pay attention to your load-out, your pips and everything else.

Interdiction is now challenging. But not difficult .
Combat is now challenging. But gets progressively harder as you rank up.

These changes are fantastic and only serve to take ED forward, IMHO.

This is a true to form example of a learn to play exercise.
You need to learn to adapt, instead of demanding that they make it easier for you.

In fact, we all do.

 

[Sans Daring]

It depends how much is hyperbole and how much is actual problems. When I'm interdicted, there's usually enough time after a submit to check to see who is coming for me and make a call. If they are coming in hard and fast sooner than before, that's a big load of trouble for less "git guded" players. So far I've just had a novice come at me. I've seen a few special weapons, so not being complacent is a good idea. I would perhaps suggest immediately heading away, check the scanner, make the choice to either run and high-wake or turn and fight. If you've genuinely not got time to do that, perhaps there is an issue.
Strong NPCs in missions/res zones is fine, but if random attacks are too tough for non-combats, you could see a player drop-off. Some people don't have the time or combat interest to "git-gud".

Though I like the idea of "off-roading" if you're not a combat ship. That's a really good, immersive idea.

 

[Some1else]

Christ how much more do you have to go through this? , ive lost 6 cobras this morning by keep been interdicted by npc's.

Apparently about 6 Cobras worth would be my guess. You do know what the definition of insanity is?

If you are not running a combat spec ship in 2.1, it is a very bad idea to engage in combat. You have a Cobra, Run! As for the three shot kill, I have not had this happen in any of my interdictions, so I have no idea what's happening for you. I just submit, boost, boost, and jump. I run an A spec Courier.

S1E

 

[Fuglydog53]

Combat rank is compatant problem is I'm getting indicted and not getting the chance to get away ive now lost another 2 cobras its taking the enjoyment out of the game for me to be honest, I mean its not even this hard in eve online or star citizen at lest you get a chance to fight back. New starters have no chance and I think Frontier will find people leave all because the npc are to powerful.

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when I played on xbox Ed I have over 600 kills but I'm finding these npc's very hard to get away, maybe its me and at 53 I'm to old to be playing games

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Its people like you I don't need replys fro...BELLEND!

 

[Fuglydog53]

Yep I'm a backer to star citizen elite is a good game but not a touch on SC Ive never know such hard npcs for me to lose ships, Frontier will lose people if they don't do anything about the npc combat.

 

[excalibus]

How many times do you have to get indicted by an npc and lose a ship within 3 _ 4 shots, its not a good start for new players or getting constantly indicted with npc ships with weapons more powerful than your shields or armour can take.
Engineers you have to do a job for them to trust you, then you have to find the stuff they need while each time its constant interdicting!!!!, Christ how much more do you have to go through this? , ive lost 6 cobras this morning by keep been interdicted by npc's Until a patch comes out to cut interdictions in half I think ill be playing Star Citizen, this has got to much of a joke now, you throttle down to submit to the interdiction then 3 shots later your blown up, that's crap game macanics and it needs to be changed.

funnily enough, during the beta I lost my ships maybe 4 or at most 5 times (for the whole beta), and just for a basis of note, I cleared save and actively bounty hunted from clean sidewinder up to an asp, actively killed clean NPC's to test the crime and punishment system, engaged in conflict zones, all up probably had a more than a hundred kills under my cap after the clear save and that was not just against similar or lower level NPC's there was an interspersing of deadly, dangerous and even elite NPC's and all ships types from sidey to Anaconda, Cutter and Corvette...

No this is not meant as a 'git gud' response, but just so you know, you do need to watch out for the higher ranked NPC's now as they are a bit of a harder foe to fight... submitting then blowing them out of space is not always the answer any more... sitting in a CZ with a tanked ship for hours is no longer an 'option' and 'farming' a REZ is not something for the feint hearted anymore either...

The NPC's 'Got Gud' adapt to it... If you are getting non stop interdicted it makes me wonder if you are Pledged to a power or if you have stacked a heap of high profile missions...

I would suggest that picking your fights is the first step forward...

Is SC actually a tangible and stable product now?

 

[Robert Maynard]

.... and closed as a duplicate "New AI" thread.

Please discuss here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=254585