Does one detail surface scan these, or is that too dangerous?
Do you simply honk the neutron star system and leave it at that?
TIA.
Do you simply honk the neutron star system and leave it at that?
TIA.
Neutron stars - Detailed surface scan them?
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Absolutely. Pull back a bit beforehand if you're worried about crossing the line but they're worth 30k each and there's no real danger, as long as you're careful.
Thanks, how close do you need to be to them to get a DSC to start, just out of interest?
I don't know. A safe distance, though. They are stars, after all. I think DSS range depends mainly on mass.
When I jump into a NS system, I usually exit hyperspace about 0.22 light-seconds away. Pretty close, but not close enough for heat damage, and it only takes a few seconds to scan at that range.
The distance at wich the surface scanner activates depends on volume. In fact Black Holes are very massive and Neutron Stars too, but since they are supersmall you have got to go very close.
If you land on a system where the Neutron Star is the mnain star, you will be at average 0.20 light seconds, wich is a safe distance to scan and indulge about 10 minutes near the star before taking damage (in fact, during supercruise, even at 0 throttle you move 30km/s). If the Neutron Star is not the main star you have to supercruise toward it. The usual rule - 7 seconds = 75% throttle always apply, but as soon the scanner starts throttle 0. The distance at wich the scanner starts is shy of 5Ls if i remeber correctly.
Black holes are different. On one side they don't give you heat dmg (only sag A), on the other side they are well smaller than NS. So if you land in a main BH system you'll be dropped at few megameters. You have about 40 seconds at 0 throttle to perform the surface scan, and after it's better to turn your nose away from the BH or you will be dropped from Supercruise (wich means 0 dmg anyway if your throttle was 0, but still). If they are not the main star approaching them in supercruise is not dangerous, just remeber to slow down as usual and to be slow when scanner start, and when it does 0 throttle.
Out of supercruise you can get few kilometers away from BH and enjoy the lenticular effect.
If approaching a Neutron, the scanner kicks in at around 4-5Ls. Yeah, it's pretty close.
The danger with neutrons is that there's no perspective - they appear the same size whether you're 300 Ls or 0.3 Ls, so keep an eye on speed and the numbers!!
o7
Ninja'd!
The danger with neutrons is that there's no perspective - they appear the same size whether you're 300 Ls or 0.3 Ls, so keep an eye on speed and the numbers!!
o7
Ninja'd!
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Always scan them, that's where the money is. Detailed scans of Neutron Stars are worth about 36K (a little variable, but typical is 36K). Black Holes are worth a bit more (about 50K).
Your jump will typically drop you out within .25ls (Neutron Star) and about 20MM (Black Hole) from the primary. ALWAYS zero your throttle before jumping into one of these systems (a good rule of thumb for explorers in any case). If you don't enter with a zero throttle, you run a very high risk of supercruising into heat damage range of the Neutron Star or into e-stop range of either the NS or BH (no heat damage from black holes, with the exception of Sag A*) before you can turn away or zero your throttle after the jump.
Jumping into a Black Hole I've found you are always directly facing the BH dead ahead. Not true of NS's, usually you're a bit off axis to the Neutron Stars when you jump in.
When going to a BH or NS secondary, they will be scannable once you close to within 5ls of them. As long as you approach with a reasonable throttle (do NOT overshoot on the throttle and do a close pass like you might with a planet), there's not much risk to them, just don't afk and get within heat damage range of a NS - it's very intense. BH's are much less dangerous, oddly enough.
NS's are quite tiny, so be cautious about jumping into systems that have a NS with a giant or supergiant companion, particularly if you can't see any separation between the two on the galactic map screen in realistic mode. The NS could be orbiting VERY close to that companion star, and you might wind up jumping into a supergiant's photosphere (as I did on my journey to the core)
Yup, discovered that the hard way...why is this star not getting any bigger?? BANG!! oops. My first neutron star.
Frawd
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My first trip outside the bubble ended this way.
Yeah we all have fallen foul of the "I am nearly here yet?.....aaaarrgghh" scenario.
My usual routine for NS is:
Throttle back before entry into NS system
ADS system
Detail scan NS
MANOEUVER AWAY FROM NS ORBIT LINES at zero throttle
Throttle up safely away
Jump out
My usual routine for NS is:
Throttle back before entry into NS system
ADS system
Detail scan NS
MANOEUVER AWAY FROM NS ORBIT LINES at zero throttle
Throttle up safely away
Jump out
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My trick for BH/NS/WDs is to drop to 0 throttle in Hyperspace, then as soon as you enter the system pull up hard & keep pulling until you hear the 'ping' of the FSD activating. At this point you are then facing away from the Star. Then go 100% throttle whilst 'honking', as soon as the 'honk' is complete, drop to 0% throttle, turn to face the Star & you'll be at around 1-2 LSs from it & safe to scan.
Thanks for the advice.
For white dwarfs and neutron stars, just drop to 0 throttle right as you're entering hyperspace. When you exit you'll be at a safe distance and can scan without worry. For black holes, do the same thing, but as soon as you exit you need to turn around, you exit so close you only have some seconds before you collide.
It is always important to keep the scale of the game in perspective and in the back of your head -at all times and more so while exploring.
The reason why a Neutron Star or a Black Hole seems so dangerous is because their size, being so tiny, you get out of Hyperspace too close to them..combined with the whopping speed of 30kms per second, you for sure are approaching it really fast! I have come out of Hyperspace at mere 300 kms from a Black Hole! That's 10 seconds before hitting it with my throtle at 0!
You don't get this sense of peril with a regular star because due to their size, they pull you out of Hyperspace upon arrival far away in comparison. So your 30 kms per second take you nowhere near it.
(I know, same other have said, just another perspective)
The reason why a Neutron Star or a Black Hole seems so dangerous is because their size, being so tiny, you get out of Hyperspace too close to them..combined with the whopping speed of 30kms per second, you for sure are approaching it really fast! I have come out of Hyperspace at mere 300 kms from a Black Hole! That's 10 seconds before hitting it with my throtle at 0!
You don't get this sense of peril with a regular star because due to their size, they pull you out of Hyperspace upon arrival far away in comparison. So your 30 kms per second take you nowhere near it.
(I know, same other have said, just another perspective)
When farming, 0 throttle at countdown.
It's reflex now, even when going to regular systems.
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