New Elite style game :)

[Marcus]

Just saw this on Eurogamer and thought I'd share

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-10-26-former-fable-dev-sets-out-to-make-true-elite-tie-fighter-successor

I really hope it comes out on Android as well, not to mention PSN and XBLA

 

[Geraldine]

Hey good find Marcus, shame about the Frontier Elite II comments though, but still, a new space sim!

 

[Michael Brookes]

If people are redoing old dog fighting games, I'd love to see an updated Terminal Velocity, some of teh best death match fun I've ever had

Michael

 

[Marcus]

Got to agree there Geraldine, Frontier is incredible, but I can understand its not exactly the market they are going for.

Still anything that raises the profile of these kind of games is a good thing

As for Terminal Velocity, its a game I have heard a lot about but never actually played. :s

 

[Spacegamer]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-10-26-former-fable-dev-sets-out-to-make-true-elite-tie-fighter-successor

Smell like hype.
I think they will have to do a lot better than just remaking another Elite or Tie fighter game, even on the mobile formats there are a number of these games now.

 

[Kipper]

Good spot. The man has a point, we get much of the same stuff because games are big money now compared to before, and nobody wants to take a gamble.

For me, the golden age was of space trading / dogfighting games and flight simulators - not the really intense ones, but the ones where you felt like you had enough control and skill requirement without actually having to be a qualified jet pilot.

Wish someone would do something like that, right up to date with proper AI wingmen that weren't insane, a proper mission planner and a battlefield thats constantly changing and responding to what happens on it.

These were the sorts of things that were starting to happen when the genre went extinct.

 

[Marcus]

Yeah I agree Kipper, I think the problem was that these kind of games became too complex and left the large bulk of players behind. Dwindling sales and a shift to console gaming pretty much put the final nails in the coffin.

These kind of games still exist of course, but they are aimed at a niche audience thats unlikely to grow unless they can broaden the experience and win new players.

Nothing would please me more than to see those type of games regain their popularity.

I can dream anyway

 

[Kipper]

Indeed. They got too complex where they shouldn't have, and not complex enough where they should have.

I used to be a real aviation enthusiast but (for instance) Falcon 4 was too much. Realistic it might have been, but I didn't find it fun. On the flip side, there were other games that looked better, were more forgiving and managed to give you much more of a sense of fun.

I remember on some of the games AI wingmen were starting to happen, but they were nuts - they'd be miles off target, crash when taking off/landing, not hit anything etc. More time should have been spent with that than trying to replicate the flight model of a fighter jet (which most of us wouldn't be able to appreciate anyway since we don't get to fly in them!).

I find a lot of console games to be too simplistic (which is fine for a lot of games, don't get me wrong - I'm hooked to skyrim on the PS3) - surely there still has to be a market for the grown up gamer with something that's a mix between simulation and game.

 

[Marcus]

Yeah I totally agree. There are a few flight sim type games out for consoles though, some more realistic than others.

The first few that spring to mind are;

Apache Air Assault by Gaijin games
Wings of Prey also by Gaijin
and
Ace Combat: Assault Horizon by Namco

All pretty decent, and worth checking out if you have a PS3 or Xbox

 

[Michael Brookes]

I personally thought Apache Air Assault was terrible, a fairly decent flight model spoilt by arcadey levels. Fun for a while, but ultimately frustrating.

Michael

 

[Marcus]

I personally thought Apache Air Assault was terrible, a fairly decent flight model spoilt by arcadey levels. Fun for a while, but ultimately frustrating.

Michael

Oooh terrible is a bit harsh! Sure its not Micoproses Gunship, or Janes Apache Longbow, but its not trying to be.

Stick with the arcade flight mode and it plays just fine, though I agree the sim flight model doesnt lend itself to the more ::ahem:: challeging missions

 

[Sir.Tj]

While merging posts etc. I came across this thread and dug around and found this trailer for the game.

http://arcadesushi.com/check-out-this-trailer-for-upcoming-ios-space-sim-rogue-star/

Opinions?

 

[PacalB]

Hey good find Marcus, shame about the Frontier Elite II comments though, but still, a new space sim!

For all the talk there, I think that link and the game is loooong dead. that was link published Wednesday, 26 October 2011. The replies to that link are some two years old with a dead thread.

Then there was this ...

Indeed Elite 4, while officially still in development at the Kinectimals maker, seems a long way off. "Come on. It's never going to happen. It's just not," Duncan said.

Nope, me thinks his game is dead and never going to happen. Oh well.

 

[PacalB]

While merging posts etc. I came across this thread and dug around and found this trailer for the game.

http://arcadesushi.com/check-out-this-trailer-for-upcoming-ios-space-sim-rogue-star/

Opinions?

I stand corrected on the making of the game part. Still, pfft !!! It's on iOS, good for sitting on the toilet and playing I suppose, thats about it.

 

[damientgerard]

I agree with you, Kipper.

I was a huge fan of Red Baron on my old 386 DX40. Going even further back, apart from Elite, the other game I used to love playing on my Electron/BBC Model B was Football Manager. Both red Naron and Football Manager were immersive enough for me to while away hours on them but weren't too complicated or overburdened with stat tweaking to make them cumbersome. Your wingmen in Red Baron were of a reasonable intellect too.

 

[Tinman]

Indeed Elite 4, while officially still in development at the Kinectimals maker, seems a long way off. "Come on. It's never going to happen. It's just not," Duncan said.

I bet he feels kind of stupid now!