Hardware & Technical New Intel high-end platform coming in June

Viking

Viking
Yesterday Intel leaked details about the new X99 (Wellsburg) chipset. And we got a date too, sort of: June 2014. That's only three months! :)

The new platform will have a new socket, called 2011-3, support 4-way DDR4 memory, and the new i7-5930K processor (among others), which is an 8-core "budget model" around $600.

X99 will replace the aging X79 chipset, and the i7-59xx (Haswell-E) series replaces the i7-49xx series.












Personally I'm very excited about this. Haswell-E is a new architecture (tock) and is rumored to be a leap forward in terms of performance. The 8-core i7-5930K is a beast they say, and DDR4 won't slow it down either! :)

I'm waiting for Asus to release their update of Rampage IV Black Ed. (review) with X99 chipset in June, then I'm buying a i7-5930K and some fast DDR4 memory for it. But the DDR4 won't be cheap ...

Then I'll buy two AMD Radeon R9-290X (review) and run them in Crossfire (2 x 16x PCIe 3.0) with water cooling.

Will it be necessary for running Elite: Dangerous? No.
Will it be cheap? No. It'll set me back at least £2000.
But it's the platform I've waited for a couple of years now. :D


Read more:

http://wccftech.com/intel-haswelle-x99-chipset-wellsburg-details-leaked-ddr4/
http://www.techpowerup.com/196158/intel-core-i7-haswell-e-to-launch-in-q3-2014.html
 

Yaffle

Volunteer Moderator
Yaffle
Oh joy a new socket.

That rules me out, rather than being a quick switch it's essentially a new rebuild.

A shame, it looks interesting.
 

Viking

Viking
Yes, it's a new socket, Yaffle. Intel is notorious for that ... OTOH, the RAM is new too and so it isn't possible for an upgrade or quick switch anyway.
 

Mazhurg

Mazhurg
He! this is my story....

Every time I get a new CPU, it''s always on a new socket (and chipset) so it's is never a 'CPU upgrade' path.

I _always_ end up with a new MB and new memory with that new CPU.

Go figure. ;)

But then - I usually get 2 GPU generations per motherboard. :)
 
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Asp Explorer

Asp Explorer
Oh I know the feeling!

I remember when upgrading to Socket 8 and being told I would never have to upgrade ever again.

Then there was the fun of Slot 1. Again, an interface that would never need to be upgraded.

Oh the joys :)
 

Patrick_68000

Patrick_68000
I just upgrade my computer. I still have to buy a graphics card in a few months. I think with what I have now, I have a good machine. A new chipset and a new socket is always interresting for to compare its personal machine, in relation to new products
 

Patrick_68000

Patrick_68000
Intel manufactures high performance products. This is the regular evolution. Change chipset, change socket. But sometimes we can ask ourselves ...

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:p
 

noodle

noodle
I'm rocking a three-year-old Core i5 760 overclocked at 4.0GHz. My girlfriend currently needs an upgrade (her PC, not herself :D ), and I was looking at doing what I usually do - buying new mobo etc. for my PC and shifting my old mobo etc. over to her rig. And then I looked at benchmarks, and the performance improvements in game offered by the current generation of processors are just pitifully small. Out of game, my PC eats for breakfast anything I throw at it (granted, I don't do any video work). I'm less inclined than ever to keep chasing upgrades.
 

Rog

Rog
Looks really interesting (and I want!), but really well outside of what I'm going to be prepared to pay.
>£800 for the CPU, premium prices for the motherboard and RAM (initially, DDR4 likely to offer no speed benefits over DDR3 plus on SIMM per memory channel)...

Unless the prices come down, it's going to have to be lesser silicon for me for a few years.

Come on AMD, offer some competition, dammit!
 

Cmdr Andy B

Cmdr Andy B
noodle said:
I'm rocking a three-year-old Core i5 760 overclocked at 4.0GHz. My girlfriend currently needs an upgrade (her PC, not herself :D ), and I was looking at doing what I usually do - buying new mobo etc. for my PC and shifting my old mobo etc. over to her rig. And then I looked at benchmarks, and the performance improvements in game offered by the current generation of processors are just pitifully small. Out of game, my PC eats for breakfast anything I throw at it (granted, I don't do any video work). I'm less inclined than ever to keep chasing upgrades.
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in total agreement, computers are getting so good now that the performance gains of new hardware are just not worth it, the costs involved outweigh any benefits.

its probably one of the reasons PC sales have slowed over the years, why upgrade when the machine you have does everything you need it to?
 

noodle

noodle
AndyB(EDB50) said:
in total agreement, computers are getting so good now that the performance gains of new hardware are just not worth it, the costs involved outweigh any benefits.

its probably one of the reasons PC sales have slowed over the years, why upgrade when the machine you have does everything you need it to?
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I love my rig. It's a pleasure to use. I recently added a larger SSD, new gfx card, and more memory. It runs like a dream. It's undoubtedly the longest I've gone without feeling any need to upgrade the core components. Hell, I'm not even interested in Windows 8! ;)
 

Viking

Viking
Rog said:
>£800 for the CPU [...]
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Yes, but the cheaper model i7-5930K is rumored to cost about £360 ($600). I'd guess it'll cost a little more in my country, about £450, which is approx. what the current i7-4930K cost now here.
 

Wolfs Spirit

Wolfs Spirit
Meh !!
I just build an 4770k haswell last month with an MSI Radeon R9 270x,4G... they should have made it available earlyer.. for now i am stuck with the LGA1150 - I7 4770k , not planning to upgrade for a while , i think my new system can go for many years to come.
It runs awesome without having it overclocked , by the time i get behind i will clock it :D

Only thing is i still don't get it why there arent still ddr5 memory modules on boards available.. knowing every latest graphic card uses them also.
 

Viking

Viking
Wolfs Spirit said:
Meh !!
I just build an 4770k haswell last month with an MSI Radeon R9 270x,4G... they should have made it available earlyer..
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Well, this is not meant to succeed the platform you have, but the aging X79 enthusiast platform. Your platform Z77 should be succeeded by Z87 (or maybe Z97) later on. I doubt they'll release that yet though since the Z77 isn't that old.
 

Halada

Halada
Because I run 7680x1600 and four-way 290X scales well at that resolution, I have already pulled the trigger on the four cards and put them on water, but they're mining now.

I was going to get a X79 board and CPU (Rampage IV no doubt) for the actual gaming (both ED and SC... I was waiting for ED to fix the bug of multiple peripherals before upgrading to alpha) but waited to see what was coming.

I am so frickin' happy I did.
 

[VR] Mad Mike

[VR] Mad Mike
CPU improvements have really stagnated over the last few years. Moores law long since broken.

Great news for my wallet, not so exciting however.

Hopefully this new chip will push things on, however I fully expect my Feb 2011 Sandybridge I5 @4.2ghz to still cut the mustard for at least another 12-18 months (by which case these new chips will be nice and cheap)

always good to see new tech come out - so long as you havent just spent an arm and a leg on the old stuff - that being said, haswell will be fine for a good while i reckon.
 

Iskariot

Iskariot
Mazhurg said:
He! this is my story....

Every time I get a new CPU, it''s always on a new socket (and chipset) so it's is never a 'CPU upgrade' path.

I _always_ end up with a new MB and new memory with that new CPU.

Go figure. ;)

But then - I usually get 2 GPU generations per motherboard. :)
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Yep that is my story too.
When I buy a new platform the story always is that it is very upgradable, but when the time comes the only feasible processor that fits has gone out of production and has become more expensive than ever. Or when I choose a new processor of course it uses a different socket. Or the new generations of videocards have different demands and are severely hampered by any processor my current board can carry.
I always end up buying an entirely new system.

In this case I have deliberately postponed buying a new system last year because of the early rumors about Haswell-E. It seems this was a good decision.
Perhaps I will buy a new system at the end of this year or the start of next year.
 
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