New Players, Eyes up!

Okay, I'll admit I retreated to solo for a while for some CGs, but seeing as there are no CGs currently i went back to open today.

Decided to hit an RES to earn a little extra scratch for Powerplay, and was doing pretty well. In fact I did pretty overall for the day, even scoring my 1st intentional PvP kill.

Now, I'm not a PvPer by any stretch of the imagination. But I am experienced in space and flight sim PvP. So I finish off an Anaconda, when I pick up a CMDR flown Eagle, displaying Green to me in the Same RES, my scan shows he's pretty beat up, and flagged as Clean tangling with 3 NPC ships, Cobra and two eagles, all Master NPC pilots.

So here's my mistake: I went to help this guy. I took the untouched Cobra off his tail, and knocked it out, then shot the engines out of one the eagles.

So what does CMDR Newguy do? Yells at me for being a killstealer and attacks me, In his 47% hull, no shields Eagle. WHILE HE STILL HAS AN NPC TRYING TO KILL HIM (I was flying my close to top shelf Vulture myself, C3 Beam Lasers, full shields, etc) Even with his ship at 100% the poor guy would not have been a match for me.

After his first salvo, it seemed as if his Pulses were set to tickle. So I put a quick shot into his tail, and dropped his hull another 10%, then took out the two remaining NPCs he was fighting.

I told him if he wanted to die that badly, next time I'd let him, then start to go on my way. Then he attacks again, this time firing missiles in addition to his tickle guns. My PDG easily handles his missiles, and I spin around on him and put a sustained burst directly into his cockpit glass, leaving him at 10% hull.

I put full power to engines and boost away, while telling him to go repair. I really didn't want to kill the guy, cost him a rebuy and his vouchers because there is enough of that crap that goes on anyway.

Results were predictable. He came back at me, draining his cap from max range. 1 second burst, and he was done, never even wore down my first layer of shields.

In short, if you're new, don't pick fights you can't win. Especially with the more experienced guy trying to help you. There are a few of us around.
 
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Wait, he was getting pummeled and is upset you helped him?

I guess maybe could have gone "need help?" first but sounds like you saved him, and then he goes mad at you? wow.
 
Don't get this killstealing thing. that's a wow term. Personally I would have shot him, and Im a nice guy in game.

It was kinda of a 3 strikes, you're wrecked, thing. I figured the first love tap would have gotten the message across. That message being "I don't want to kill you, but I can."
 
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Yeah a key problem some new players seem to miss is the whole "You are small and insignificant" thing. Some expect to come out guns blazing and become CMDR Awesome, hero of space. Before getting stomped into dust and learning the reality.
Kudos for not trying to kill him but sometimes they have to learn the hard way.
 
Yeah a key problem some new players seem to miss is the whole "You are small and insignificant" thing. Some expect to come out guns blazing and become CMDR Awesome, hero of space. Before getting stomped into dust and learning the reality.
Kudos for not trying to kill him but sometimes they have to learn the hard way.
This, so very much this.
 
Well, hope the guy learned something from all this. Going by the number of outs you gave him, I kinda doubt it, though.
 
Good form to you.

Hopefully they learn from the experience.

Edit: hmm it appears I can't rep on mobile. Well I am willing it to you, Riggs.
 
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Everyone's so nice! If that were me, there's a decent chance I'd have murdered him the instant he appeared ungrateful. In fact, some days, I'd have murdered him well before that...
 
Yeah a key problem some new players seem to miss is the whole "You are small and insignificant" thing. Some expect to come out guns blazing and become CMDR Awesome, hero of space. Before getting stomped into dust and learning the reality.
Kudos for not trying to kill him but sometimes they have to learn the hard way.

The funny thing is, I'm still pretty small and insignificant, less than 100mil total assets and most of that wrapped up in ships I only really use for the CGs (Type-7 and an Asp) My vulture, while it could be more combat capable, is set for grinding RES and the Combat CGs, so for that role, it's just about perfect. It's not PvP built at all. If I wanted to PvP I'd lose my hull reinforcement and fuel scoop for some shield cells and mount a Plasma gun and a multicannon.

But I use the gimballed Beams for ease of NPC kills without having to get right on top of them.
 
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Everyone's so nice! If that were me, there's a decent chance I'd have murdered him the instant he appeared ungrateful. In fact, some days, I'd have murdered him well before that...

The sadist in me would have just let him hammer away at my shields whilst continuing to clean the clock with the NPC in the RES. Eventually he'd realise that the Eagle cannot take a Vulture; I'd reinforce this humiliation with little supporting quips like: "Hows things working out for you?" and "Oh, noes I almost felt that one!" and "Are we learning yet?"; eventually the Feds would show up and kill him anyways.

Would be worth a shield cell to just reinforce the point (can a Eagle even strip a vulture of shields? I've never flown the Vulture but they seem pretty sturdy on the ones I've killed).
 
They are pretty sturdy. I've made a habit out of love-tapping Sideys, Eagles, Adders, and even some Cobras and just ramming them out while hunting RESs, so I can save Cap for the Pythons and Annies, and still collect those little bounties.
 
He will probably end up killing traders for sport so he can feel superior.
props for being as patient as you were though. Would have handled it the same way.
 
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