New RTX GPUs

I can't help wondering how a 5080 - or maybe a 5090 - would perform for ED.

My suspicion is that it would fly.

However, my 3080 does really well anyway. Although I do realise the rest of a system architecture would have an impact.

Any thoughts?
 
The fundamental limitation for ground CZs is going to be from CPU performance.

In every other aspect, a 5080 will be great. The client uses ~10GB without FSR on my display (3440x1440), so 16GB for 4K seems reasonable.
 
I can't help wondering how a 5080 - or maybe a 5090 - would perform for ED.

My suspicion is that it would fly.

However, my 3080 does really well anyway. Although I do realise the rest of a system architecture would have an impact.

Any thoughts?
With a 4090 you can run everything maxed out, even on Super UltraWide 3840x1080. The new architecture is driven more by AI, so we will have to wait for independent platforms to test it's raw performance.
 
As an older game previous generation cards already perform well enough.

That said, Elite does not feature DLSS, so I don't think the game will be getting DLSS 4 support - this is what the new RTX generation performance truly delivers on.
 
With a 4090 you can run everything maxed out, even on Super UltraWide 3840x1080. The new architecture is driven more by AI, so we will have to wait for independent platforms to test it's raw performance.
I'm playing at 4k all maxed out now. Not sure what improvements a 5k card will offer.

It's all interesting though!
 
I'm playing at 4k all maxed out now. Not sure what improvements a 5k card will offer.

It's all interesting though!
Check this video it's a pretty good explanation on those gain claim.
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As an older game previous generation cards already perform well enough.

That said, Elite does not feature DLSS, so I don't think the game will be getting DLSS 4 support - this is what the new RTX generation performance truly delivers on.
The only feature you can use in ED is DLDSR, an IA accelerated Dynamic Super Resolution, similar to FSR but has greater quality.

In my case it drives the game at 2.25x it's native resolution( 3840x1080), with a result of 5760x1620, locked at 143 FPS with 0 issues. But that's it, everything else depends on pure raster performance.
 
Versus their immediate predecessors, the consumer Blackwell GPUs are increasing performance in AI first; followed by ray tracing; general FP32 shader performance and texture fill rate a distant third; and pixel fill rate very little. Elite: Dangerous has no way to leverage the AI or ray tracing capabilities, which leaves a moderate FP32 increase.

Problem is that even with graphical mods and custom settings, the only place to really spend GPU performance, at the top-end, is trying to push enough raw pixels to make the AA situation less dire. This new generation of cards is ill-suited for that because the ROP count and clock speeds aren't increasing meaningfully. The extra memory bandwidth of the 5090 will help a bit vs. the 4090, but even that won't be huge.

The 5080 will almost certainly be somewhat slower than the 4090 in ED(O), though the 5090 should become be fastest by some margin.
 
Just an opinion, but I think 16gb vram on the '80 is a little stingy. But there are other factors to consider, like price. And my ignorance ys such matters :D

I did hear a rumour that there'll be a version of the 80 with more RAM. 80 Super, perhaps?
 
Rumours.. Some guy on FB...

16Gb vram should be fine in 99% of the cases (certainly if you are still on 60fps). But do fork out more credits for 20Gb Vram cause someone said so
 
I'm looking forward to low power graphics cards. My 3090 goes like a hairdryer, and my PC is averaging 500w for 4k 60fps, which was costing me a fortune. I'm on a laptop now with mobile 4070 that barely reaches 200w. That's the compromise I had to make so that I can afford milk in my tea. I would need to go down another GPU level or two to be able to afford sugar in it, but then the game would suck.
 
How much VRAM does ED need? And how much hits its sweet spot? Would it benefit from >16gb VRAM or would it be pointless having that much?

I know it's not all about the RAM but I'm curious to find out what ED likes best from that perspective.

At this point in time, Elite is my "main" game and I don't do video editing. Well, I dabbled once or twice but I wasn't exactly hooked.
 
I want to see the 3rd party benchmarks for all the new gpus in a big comparison. The 5000 series seems to be more new software than hardware, Intels gpu's are known, and Amd is being vague. Hopefully there are some good values in all the new cards
 
Just an opinion, but I think 16gb vram on the '80 is a little stingy. But there are other factors to consider, like price. And my ignorance ys such matters

I did hear a rumour that there'll be a version of the 80 with more RAM. 80 Super, perhaps?

16GiB is plenty for most any gaming use.

That said, because there are 24Gb (gigabit, per chip, with eight bits per byte) GDDR7 ICs coming, there will be refreshes to most of the 5000 series that will increase VRAM capacity by 50% at the same bus width (number of chips).

I'm looking forward to low power graphics cards.

Every generation gets more power efficient, but there is also a powerful incentive to use all the power that's available (up to the limits of the heat that can be removed) because that's what will make for the most impressive benchmark results.

How much VRAM does ED need? And how much hits its sweet spot? Would it benefit from >16gb VRAM or would it be pointless having that much?

There are settings you can force that can result in the game allocating more than 16GiB, but the benefits are marginal, and even a 24GiB 5080 would probably not run them well.
 
How much VRAM does ED need? And how much hits its sweet spot? Would it benefit from >16gb VRAM or would it be pointless having that much?

I know it's not all about the RAM but I'm curious to find out what ED likes best from that perspective.

At this point in time, Elite is my "main" game and I don't do video editing. Well, I dabbled once or twice but I wasn't exactly hooked.
With my current setup and everything maxed out, it takes around 11.6 GB of VRAM, with Wallpaper Engine running in the background, while being on foot. In space it´s between 8 and 9 GB. I hope that gave you some idea.
 
Yeah, I could do with a better monitor if I'm honest. It's a 32" Iiyama but it's a 60hz one. 6ms too iirc
I have to say, I hate playing at 60Hz these days. In fact, Elite is one of the few games whjere I find it tolerable, as it's not exactly a twitch-shooter.

My experience is that once you hit about 100fps, you get diminishing returns on perceptions of smoothness, but variance becomes much more important - I really notice it when average fps is significantly higher. That's what the "quarter past" bug does - it induces really significant fps drops. Pixel response times really start to matter too. I notice I get ghosting on my panel at 144Hz. It's not that bad, but it can be a bit smeary, especially in high-contrast situations.
 
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Full 4k VR all bells & whistles on. No reprojection at all, no stuttering.
3090fe
7800x3d cpu
64 gig ddr5
Amd board.
Pimax crystal light headset.
And I look at the new gpus and they do nothing for me.
Until elites engine is updated I don't think any of the over priced gpus will give any substantial eye candy upgrade.

2000 quid for a 5090! Sod that!

But once some cheap 4090s drop on ebay l might treat meself
 
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