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Minonian
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Saint crapola! 
Not bad! Not bad at all! This is what you get with returning the beginning with all the expertise and knowledge gained trough your journey. Because? You need to learn the small tricks too, and leave out all the useless wrong parts in the end, anything what just hold you back, and unnecessary must go, and only the essence can remain.
The purest gold of it.
There is some false claims on his claims but for that what he can do?
Not bad! Not bad at all! This is what you get with returning the beginning with all the expertise and knowledge gained trough your journey. Because? You need to learn the small tricks too, and leave out all the useless wrong parts in the end, anything what just hold you back, and unnecessary must go, and only the essence can remain. The purest gold of it.
There is some false claims on his claims but for that what he can do?
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Indeed, and this from somebody who knows what she's talking about. She may have been involved in your film clip there, actually - I've not watched it.
Minonian
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(nods) Good skills crappy narrative and background knowledge paired with a lot of confidence.
Dangerous like a rifle, and makes less noise
Minonian
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Probably, but you need much less training with a rifle to compete in terms of firepower and accuracy
Minonian
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Probably, but you need much less training with a rifle to compete in terms of firepower and accuracy
Good point! But where is the fun and skill on that?
Edit; Ok...
let's be honest and put an end of these kind of ancient and modern warriors + weapons debate.The foot-soldiers of any era cannot be comparable the elite warrior class of any other era neither in training and equipment. knight, samurai's assassins commando, Cossack yadda yadda. VS pikemen, grunt, gunner, ects. any kind of comparison like this is just as stupid it can gets.
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verminstar
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Probably, but you need much less training with a rifle to compete in terms of firepower and accuracy
Any fool can use a rifle once they know where the moving parts are and which is the dangerous end, but to be accurate? Thats takes time...years in some cases but thats when accuracy means ye will feel the bullet before ye hear it...a somewhat surreal experience.
Minonian
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Nothing really changed. except the starting power level. An arrow is weaker than a rifle. But no matter what we talking about? Mastery takes time. A lot!The other of these kind of stupid debates? What's the best fighting style in martial arts? Why? What's suits you the best. End of the story!
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Probably, but you need much less training with a rifle to compete in terms of firepower and accuracy
Very just. I also wonder what is the most cruel. A rifle bullet or an arrow ?
The effort to train someone to use a rifle in a efficient way is much lower than the effort to teach someone to use a bow in a efficient way. I'm not even talking about mastery of the weapon. The average soldier didn't 'master' his weapon back then and doesn't in the present.
Highly trained sharpshooters who use supersonic ammunition don't count as average/common soldier.
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That depends very much on the ammunition you use for both the bow and the rifle.
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Arrow with curare ...
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The effort to train someone to use a rifle in a efficient way is much lower than the effort to teach someone to use a bow in a efficient way. I'm not even talking about mastery of the weapon. The average soldier didn't 'master' his weapon back then and doesn't in the present.
Highly trained sharpshooters who use supersonic ammunition don't count as average/common soldier.
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That depends very much on the ammunition you use for both the bow and the rifle.
Thats the Crackpoint tough.
For Elite Soldiers. Its doesnt matter that it takes longer to Master a Rifle because they have to be as Efficient as Possible. And here a Rifle is Simply more Efficient which means the Extra Time is Worth it.
A Normal Foot Soldier doesnt need Mastery of his Weapon. He is not expected to Life long enough as that the effort would matter wither with Bow or Rifle. So the Rifle for which you can learn the Basics much Faster than for a Bow is an much more Simple Choice.
Even more so with Multi Puprose Assault Rifles and other Weapons for which you give the Soldier Basic Trainings thus allowing him to use them good enough to be useful.
X-Terminator
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Later he then tried this at home unfortunately against his own good advice...he's now redecorating
Actually that reminds me of an especially cruel sort of ammunition called Flechettes. They're basically small metal arrows which can be shot by normal guns with special ammunition but are also used in anti infantry artillery shells and rockets.
They pierce every known helmet and body armour with ease but behave like soft point bullets in soft tissue which means that they deform easily and leave big wounds with wide wound caves. They also have the ugly habit of turning and changing their direction in the target of the body additional to the deforming of the projectile.
They're considered as so gruesome that they were internationally outlawed, but the research on them is still in progress afaik.
The OP vid was awesome, and so was the refutation of its claims in your vid. Rep to both.