Next ship will be: Anaconda. Or T-9. No, Python... Argh!

Shiro Akai

Shiro Akai
Greetings CMDRs,

as you can see, I'm a bit baffled here. Right now I'm far in the dark, coming back from SagA* and it will take me another week to get to inhabited space. Jumping and honking isn't very mind taxing so while I beat another LY I plan ahead. Mostly what to buy next.

Right now I have gutted DBX stored (which will be restored to flight operations one day), this AspX I'm currently in, Cr135M in the bank and loads of unclaimed exploration data. Upon arrival and cashing in I estimate to have enough funds to buy and somewhat outfit... something. When I started my SagA* trip I did it with Anaconda upon return in mind. I also considered T-9 but lets keep it somewhat organized, so first thing first.

I follow my "to-do" list and progress steadily with ships. From Sidewinder I quickly upgraded to Adder, then to T-6. Next was DBX and now I own AspX. At this point next ships start to cost quite a money. At first I considered T-9 for bulk trading and mining (wanted to try this). Reading about it it turned that above could be done in Anaconda in a much better fashion. Except smaller cargo, Anaconda beats T-9 in every other field. So I set my eyes upon Anaconda, calculated credits and it seemed I have my next ship.

So right now I'm heading home and in the meantime I looked into FD store to watch some paints. And somehow I ended watching Python. Then it occurred to me that I want to do bounty hunting as well. Tried that at some point, but having small and weak ship and no skill it was bad experience. So I decided to get back to it when I will have bigger and better ship. Which is about to happen.

So here I am, sitting and thinking. In the end I will have all 3 ships. That's out of the question. The issue is, what to get next. Goal is to:
- fairly large cargo space for trading/mission running
- fair jump range for occasional few kLY trip
- combat capable
- mining capable

T-9 drops from the equation due to low range and no combat capabilities (I suck at combat and cannot imagine hull tanking and mine fighting in T-9 at this point). So the options are: Python vs Anaconda.

I know it's another "what should I get next", but real question is: Get cheaper Python and outfit it off the bat and on the go depending on what I currently want to do or bite the bullet and go for trade-conda, stack passenger cabins and run those missions till I drown in credits so question what to buy looses any sense?
 

Snarfbuckle

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Shiro Akai said:
Greetings CMDRs,

as you can see, I'm a bit baffled here. Right now I'm far in the dark, coming back from SagA* and it will take me another week to get to inhabited space. Jumping and honking isn't very mind taxing so while I beat another LY I plan ahead. Mostly what to buy next.

Right now I have gutted DBX stored (which will be restored to flight operations one day), this AspX I'm currently in, Cr135M in the bank and loads of unclaimed exploration data. Upon arrival and cashing in I estimate to have enough funds to buy and somewhat outfit... something. When I started my SagA* trip I did it with Anaconda upon return in mind. I also considered T-9 but lets keep it somewhat organized, so first thing first.

I follow my "to-do" list and progress steadily with ships. From Sidewinder I quickly upgraded to Adder, then to T-6. Next was DBX and now I own AspX. At this point next ships start to cost quite a money. At first I considered T-9 for bulk trading and mining (wanted to try this). Reading about it it turned that above could be done in Anaconda in a much better fashion. Except smaller cargo, Anaconda beats T-9 in every other field. So I set my eyes upon Anaconda, calculated credits and it seemed I have my next ship.

So right now I'm heading home and in the meantime I looked into FD store to watch some paints. And somehow I ended watching Python. Then it occurred to me that I want to do bounty hunting as well. Tried that at some point, but having small and weak ship and no skill it was bad experience. So I decided to get back to it when I will have bigger and better ship. Which is about to happen.

So here I am, sitting and thinking. In the end I will have all 3 ships. That's out of the question. The issue is, what to get next. Goal is to:
- fairly large cargo space for trading/mission running
- fair jump range for occasional few kLY trip
- combat capable
- mining capable

T-9 drops from the equation due to low range and no combat capabilities (I suck at combat and cannot imagine hull tanking and mine fighting in T-9 at this point). So the options are: Python vs Anaconda.

I know it's another "what should I get next", but real question is: Get cheaper Python and outfit it off the bat and on the go depending on what I currently want to do or bite the bullet and go for trade-conda, stack passenger cabins and run those missions till I drown in credits so question what to buy looses any sense?
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I would go with the python.

Fairly cheap and it's X3 large hardpoints and X2 mediums give it a nice punch.

- Can go up to about 200 cargo
- 25+ LY jump range fully combat fitted with good engineer rolls
- Can fight
- Space for everything to handle mining.

And fully fitted it's still cheap by several hundred millions compared to an Anaconda.
 

CMDR Cosmic Spacehead

CMDR Cosmic Spacehead
Snarfbuckle said:
I would go with the python.

Fairly cheap and it's X3 large hardpoints and X2 mediums give it a nice punch.

- Can go up to about 200 cargo
- 25+ LY jump range fully combat fitted with good engineer rolls
- Can fight
- Space for everything to handle mining.

And fully fitted it's still cheap by several hundred millions compared to an Anaconda.
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This^^

Python, with Dirty Drives 5, excellent shields, and no armour (Modified heavy duty lightweight- lol), she'll jump 25~ly, and boost to 450m/s. Plenty of speed and shields to get out in and out of trouble again. But do not hang around if your shields drop. But that's what the speeding is for. You can outrun practically all NPC's. :D


Mine cost approximately 140,000,000cr, without armour.
You can modify the 6A power plant to output more than a stock 7A if you want to save cash and mass, but you need a good roll on efficiency, or you make bake yourself, particularly when scooping. Lol

I run 3 long range modded pulse lasers, and 2 high capacity Packhound launchers. Mostly for fun, not particularly effective. Lol

CMDR Cosmic Spacehead
 

XOSHI

XOSHI
I would recommend the Python as well.
Versatile as no other ship, it works with Mining, Combat (Fixed/Gimbaled/Turrets - which I´d recommend if you don´t know how to fight, especially in the larger ships), Trading (My Python-Trader has 280T of Cargo, 300MJ shields and an ADS), Passenger Missions, Surface Missions... the list is endless.
The downside is the jumprange, it comes close to Federal ships, making it less good as an explorer, but you already have a ASP, so that´s no problem.

Sure, the Anaconda does nearly everything a little bit better, except landing on outpost, but a A-Rated Conda easily needs half of a billion Cr.

Mine, (the one mentioned in the signature) is a A-rated ´Conda wrecker, and costs even with reactives and Beam-Turrets only about 260mil, which leaves you save money for rebuy or a Trader T9.

But there is an other point why you should take the Python as well. The ASP handles not much different to a Cobra, the Anaconda, but even more the T9 handles like a Planet. You really should go for Dirty Drives sooner or later (G3 from Farseer in Deciat should be enough), if you want to avoid interdictions. The Python handles slow and steady either, but it´s much smaller and much more agile than the Anaconda or the T9. So, beside beeing the best cost/performance ship IMO, it´s a very good training vessel for the Large ships.
 

777Driver

777Driver
For sheer earning potential hauling freight- T9, head to Maia and run the Meta Alloy/Thargoid resin & high capacity freighter missions. You'll be looking at upwards of 70 million credits for 2 or 3 jumps, average is around 30 to 40 million credits. All systems are next to each other so jump range is irrelevant, you just need the biggest cargo bay, so unless you have a Cutter/Corvette, the T9 is the only option.

Saw a video last night about longhaul passenger runs, basically flying a Anaconda fully kitted out with economy cabins, the guy was pulling in 200 million for a single jump, problem is you have to sit in supercruise for 40+ minutes, not a huge deal though.

I prefer the scenery out in the Pleiades,
 
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Shiro Akai

Shiro Akai
Opinions lean toward Python. Same as my thoughts. I see this ship as mini-Anaconda. Offers almost the same for way less. I played a bit with shipyard and +-25 LY range is totally sufficient for my needs. My Asp is for exploration, I still have DBX hull and I wonder how much I can squeeze from it with my engineered FSD. Farseer is the only one unlocked so G3 DD is within reach.

So it's decided, Python then. Now if I could get into bubble faster... This game surely knows how to train your patience.

@777Driver - yeah, saw that video yesterday. Technically I could recreate it myself. When I come back I should have enough credits to get myself Anaconda and outfit it with cabins. Since I'm full with exploration data allied is no problem. This is my major issue for the Anaconda vote. One run which literally takes an hour and I could get Python for anything else...

I scouted Pleiades when I was preparing to engineer FSD. While in hunt for arsenic I collected meta-alloys. 16t gave me 1.2M. Decent extra income but boring and tedious. Passenger run seems more profitable and I can always read some book while in SC.

Decisions, decisions...
 
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777Driver

777Driver
Shiro Akai said:
I scouted Pleiades when I was preparing to engineer FSD. While in hunt for arsenic I collected meta-alloys. 16t gave me 1.2M. Decent extra income but boring and tedious. Passenger run seems more profitable and I can always read some book while in SC.

Decisions, decisions...
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Wasn't talking about collecting Meta alloys, am talking about hauling Meta alloys. you get paid up to 45 million per 180 tonne cargo run, with a large cargo bay you can combine it with regular cargo runs.

very short trips, ideal for the T9. The Palin missions also pay out well.

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Shiro Akai

Shiro Akai
Oh...

Right now I'm playing with shipyard. I noticed that DBX, Asp and Python share the same 5A FSD. This one I have rather nicely engineered and it will easily be transplanted into Python. Anaconda is 6A max and with my modded 5A FSD and passenger cabins loadout it's capable of 20.45/21.09 LY range. Bouncing between Python and Anaconda and this one thrown T-9 into the equation...

I already have too many options to pick from :D
 

GreyAreaUK

GreyAreaUK
Shiro Akai said:
Oh...

Right now I'm playing with shipyard. I noticed that DBX, Asp and Python share the same 5A FSD. This one I have rather nicely engineered and it will easily be transplanted into Python. Anaconda is 6A max and with my modded 5A FSD and passenger cabins loadout it's capable of 20.45/21.09 LY range. Bouncing between Python and Anaconda and this one thrown T-9 into the equation...

I already have too many options to pick from :D
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Keep in mind the Python is significantly cheaper than the Annie, and you'll keep your ability to land at Outposts (medium pads).
 

Shiro Akai

Shiro Akai
After quick shipyard play I got this:
- Economy Cabin Anaconda (184 seats): 148M with 20 LYs with modded 5A FSD
- Trader Python (270t): 58.6M with 36/39 LYs with modded 5A FSD

Total: ~207M. 135M I already have so I'm short 72M. 75M rounded up. Anaconda rebuy is ~7M (times 3 to be safe) is 21M. 25M rounded up. So 210M for ships + 25M for rebuys = 235M. Minus 135M I already have gives... round 100M. As I said, I'm coming back from SagA* trip, found 2 or 3 earth-likes, 3 ammonia worlds, around 10-12 water worlds and a whole lot of metal rich. Hundreds of undiscovered systems so far and I'm still 25k LYs away from home so above will be probably doubled.

With good winds I should make that missing 100M out of exploration data. Which would secure me BOTH Python and Anaconda.

Happy CMDR is a happy CMDR.
 

Wasp0

Wasp0
777Driver said:
Wasn't talking about collecting Meta alloys, am talking about hauling Meta alloys. you get paid up to 45 million per 180 tonne cargo run, with a large cargo bay you can combine it with regular cargo runs.

very short trips, ideal for the T9. The Palin missions also pay out well.

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Very Nice 777, do you have to be Allied to faction(s) for these payouts? What station is this from?

Kind Thanks

Wasp0

Meanwhile OP, my vote goes also for the Python. Not a lot you can't do with a Trusty Python. Only last night i got pulled by a single vette, (Dangerous Pilot, he opened fire on me, and i got his shields down and he high tailed it. This is with single beam and 4 frags, and it's fitted out for Cargo/Missions/Scanners, and SRV, so not even a full combat loadout! Vette pilot was bad though, must admit!

The Python is slow to turn, but adjust your flying style, lean FA off boost turns and Pip Management and the Python can hold it's own at neigh on anything the game throws at it.

Bonus is that it can land on Outposts!!!!
 
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ajg74

ajg74
As people have said, the answer is always Python. I have earned a LOT of credits with mine, enough to fully A rate it and buy and A rate the whole Gutamaya range, with money to spare!

Guess which ship I'm currently doing those 40 mins in SC passenger missions in (clue it's not a Conda nor did it come from the dealers painted white).

Plus I enjoy flying my Python, it makes for nice chilled out trips, I have plenty of other ships for speed and excitement. :cool:
 

CMDR_Tobi

CMDR_Tobi
i personally recommend the python, you would have plenty of cash for modding it
its one of the best multipurpose ships in the game plenty of cargo and packs a punch
 

Arthur Shappey

Arthur Shappey
My tuppence worth?

On one hand the Python is a no-brainer. Certainly, with engineering, it can cope with ANY PVE combat situation, do any mission, mine, transport - and get you triple-elite without breaking sweat.

However - it is a dull ship! It has too good hardpoints, too many module spaces, dull handling and little challenge.

Now - however - is your opportunity to not full the dull, statistically-backed route. Have some fun.

A T-7 is a challenge, an Imperial Courier is all sorts of fun, going back to a Sidewinder is eye-opening; and the Adder - there are so many upsides to a cheap ship like the Adder that should not be overlooked.
 

GTwannabe

GTwannabe
Python is really only good for 2 things: rank grinding and trade CG's to outposts. Conda is hands down a better earner since so little gameplay is restricted to medium pads.
 
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