Next Update = 2020

[Maro-Val]

I was referring to the new mechanics they added in Beyond.

You mean some small bits added on mc. Nothing meaningfull in the general picture of mc i would say, but better that than nothing i guess.

Multicrew was doomed from the start IMO, as the base concept lends itself more to slower, plodding vessels rather than WW2 in cockpits, or those with complexity that is well outside the scope that ED is ever going to offer sadly.

Compare say, the difference between the new DCS F-14 with (or even the 'simplistic complexity' of star trek bridge crew) with what ED can offer.

Pretty much.. sad thing is that it wouldnt take much to make mc a lot better. For me it looks like they started creating mc, but at some early point they decided that it was a dead end due to p2p or for some other reason, so they just glued everything together very fast and outta the door.

 

[NeilF]

Multicrew was doomed from the start IMO, as the base concept lends itself more to slower, plodding vessels rather than WW2 in cockpits, or those with complexity that is well outside the scope that ED is ever going to offer sadly.

Compare say, the difference between the new DCS F-14 with (or even the 'simplistic complexity' of star trek bridge crew) with what ED can offer.

Indeed... The premise to split up an already rather thin gameplay experience, into smaller more dedicated roles was worrying. And with little/no effort put into broadening the gameplay mechanics in the preceeding time frame, it's little surprised that Multi-Crew was with next to nothing to make it worth while. And yet, it was given the thumbs up in design meetings...

And if this was a one off demonstration of bizarre designs being the go-ahead and put into the game I'm sure we could look past it. But alas it's a seriously worrying pattern that makes you fear for what's in store at the end of next year...

 

[z993126]

What might take two years of work to do, to add to the game? Why, processing and merging the Gaia data with the Stellar Forge to bring things up-to-date!

https://www.businessinsider.com/milky-way-is-much-more-massive-than-previously-thought-2019-3

 

[[VR] wi03016]

Says who? A random guy on the internet?

Regarding to the development of the last year's it could be realistic.

 

[Maro-Val]

Regarding to the development of the last year's it could be realistic.

Pretty much.

 

[babelfisch]

Regarding to the development of the last year's it could be realistic.

Pretty much.

Come on, the post is nonsense on so many levels, I don't even know where to begin. I'll try:

Well if 100 dev have worked 1 year producing the output we have seen on Beyond that's a pretty weak result compared to horizons.

1. He compares Beyond to Horizons, implying that Horizons was way better than Beyond. Pretty sure that Eymerich claimed that Horizons was a failure as well, so I don't really see the point of the comparision. And even if I assume that he actually enjoyed Horizons, development of it actually took 2-3 years, so comparing it to Beyond is complete nonsense.
2. We have literally no idea about the challenges they encountered during development, we don't know how much stuff they started to work on and postponed or completely abandoned after wasting time with it (which happens quite a lot in video game development). It's impossible to tell how much effort went into it.
3. We don't know how difficult it was to add the various improvements, the new USS system for example might seem like a small change to you but it's actually a complete revamp, including things many people have asked for since quite a long time. Making them persistent was pretty important to me.
4. Frontier pays a lot of attention to small details, just watch the video about Thargoid swarms and how much thought and effort went into it. You could of course argue that it's a waste of time but that doesn't lessen the effort and I am quite happy that they are so dedicated to their job.
5. Just because some people personally don't like / aren't impressed by the additions and changes in Beyond it doesn't mean that everyone considers it a small update. I (and others) are pretty happy with what they delivered, that's easily missed if you just listen to those who participate in the 'the game is doomed and Frontier is incompetent' echo chamber.

And finally...

New era? Most probably a new 2d interface…

Suggesting that Beyond only consists of a new 2d interface is simply dishonest.

 

[Maro-Val]

Dont know man.. i expect pacman in cockpit in December 2020

 

[[DOOK] Droogie]

Yep. Thats the word that comes in mind when believing words like "exciting" and "winter is coming" and you receive multi-crew and an optional invasion. Now what do you think phrases like "new era" and "the most authentic, ambitious, and expansive evolving space game in the world", can do to you?

Sounds "exciting".

 

[maboleth]

Take a look back at power play state, multicrew, optional thargoids, qcq, horizons lasted 2 years instead of 1, carriers cancelled, codex not having our passed discoveries, gnosis fiasco and so many others.. and lets not talk about bugs or how long it takes to fix them IF EVER.

Eh? I'm more of a "casual" ED player so I don't know these stuff. So my questions are:

1. Carriers cancelled? For real!? Didn't they say "delayed" for this year?
2. How come Codex is not having our discoveries? Who writes them then?
3. Gnosis fiasco? Nothing happened?

 

[Captain Thea Kreutzer]

1. Carriers cancelled? For real!? Didn't they say "delayed" for this year?
2. How come Codex is not having our discoveries? Who writes them then?
3. Gnosis fiasco? Nothing happened?

1. Carriers are only delayed. Will Flanagan said so on a lave radio broadcast.
2. If the codex recorded everything it would be over crowded and very buggy.
3. People thought Gnosis would be different
4. Dont believe everything you hear on these forums. No matter the "rank"

 

[Maro-Val]

Eh? I'm more of a "casual" ED player so I don't know these stuff. So my questions are:

1. Carriers cancelled? For real!? Didn't they say "delayed" for this year?
2. How come Codex is not having our discoveries? Who writes them then?
3. Gnosis fiasco? Nothing happened?

1. Yes carriers were for q4 of 2018 and were cancelled. The word used was reprioritized i think. Since Will Flanagan said that carriers will still come, then carriers will come at some point.
2. The codex doesn't contain our passed discoveries about bodies and stuff, allthough devs on a stream said that it would, but they didnt know from how far back. Eventually it didn't had any of it.
3. Oh many things happened indeed at the Gnosis incident but its a long story. Thousands of cmdrs were abord the Gnosis for a jump inside the permit locked cone sector, where it eventually jumped like 10 LY (lol)! A galnet article was leaked too early and messed up things more, thargoids attacked the gnosis and cmdrs attacking back were fined for fighting into the no fire zone, cmdrs that were killed were transfered far far away (at a detention center i think) and some of them couldn't jump back, thargoids were shutting off ships before they could leave the pad and many many more.

1. Carriers are only delayed. Will Flanagan said so on a lave radio broadcast.
2. If the codex recorded everything it would be over crowded and very buggy.
3. People thought Gnosis would be different
4. Dont believe everything you hear on these forums. No matter the "rank"

Allow me to help at these points, that started from a post of mine.
1. Yes carriers are probably delayed, but also cancelled for the initial release at q4 of 2018.
2. I ask permission to add this phrase into my forum signature "If the codex recorded everything it would be over crowded and very buggy".
3. THOUSANDS of people was left to think that Gnosis would be different.
4. Explain a little more about the "rank" please.