No Painite in Painite hotspot?
- Thread starter CmdrLordValcar
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The inner ring info is good to k now. I may have been mining in an outer ring. All I did was use surface scanner on the ring then I headed to the painite hot spot.OK so post the systems and the planet like I asked. Any or all of them.
Understand here, I'm not asking so I can say 'lol you're wrong' or whatever, I don't need to get my validation in life like that. If I check them and I can fire a couple of hundred prospectors without finding any painite rocks I'll be the first to add my name to the bug report which is presumably filed already - it's just that at the moment you're describing something outside my direct experience and since when it comes to mining that's five year's worth (i.e. before hotspots even existed and years before mining became the meta moneymaker that it is today) it's something that I want to have a look at.
I'm also puzzled by the reference to eddb in OP's post to be honest because eddb doesn't show hotspots to start with. It will find systems with pristine metallics but that's all. As Bottom Hat has mentioned it can be a bit more complex than that, in that if you're looking for your own hotspots in the ring, you need to be sure that you're looking at the metallic part of the ring, which is usually the inner ring if the planet has two.
You can find painite hotspots in metallic rings and also in metal rich rings. The difference between them is that only painite hotspots in metallic rings will have painite that can be laser mined. Painite hotspots in metal-rich rings do contain painite too but it's only cores which can be mined using seismic charges, you will never find painite that can be laser mined in a metal rich ring.
Planets often have two orbiting rings, an inner ring (shown as the 'A' ring in the system map) and an outer ring shown as the 'B' ring. The inner 'A' ring will almost always be the metallic one, with the outer ring being metal-rich, rocky or whatever. If a painite hotspot is in the outer ring (i.e. not the metrallic one) and you want to laser mine, it's of no use to you.
My suspicion is that OP (and maybe you) found a pristine metallic ring in eddb, scanned the planet and found a painite hotspot but not noticed that it's in the outer non-metallic part of the ring and therefore does contain painite, but not painite that you can laser mine. I might be wrong but it would explain everything you've seen without the game being fundamentally broken, which as I say just doesn't tie up with my own experience up to and including today.
Oh and firing prospectors looking for cores, yeah I can easily believe that you fired 200 prospectors without finding any because without using the pulse wave scanner to narrow down your targets, I'd be quite happy with a 1 in 200 hit rate for finding cores - I've flown the best part of 10km between cores before now using the pulse wave scanner (back before it was broken and then fixed) they're very rare and you could easily hit 200 rocks in those sort of distances without finding a core if you were scanning all of them. Core mining bores the pants off me because although blowing stuff up is fun, flying around looking at pointless rocks for 10 minutes whilst pressing a button is less fun.
Either way, link me one or more of the systems and planets when you get a minute so I can have a look. Cheers
lol welcome to Elite Dangerous
Thanks mate for expanding on and reinforcing what I was trying to say about the rings. I don't know if the chap is a native speaker, but I imagine it's even harder to understand if not.
@CmdrLordValcar as Red says, it's easier if you can reference the system and body here so we can look and try to confirm or explain otherwise. Visuals also help a lot with this kind of thing I imagine.
The inner (A ring) from the point that you are aiming when approaching the planet can be very narrow and easily missed, it seems to be a very common mistake with those that are new to mining or exploring.
We could do with someone with way more time and resources than myself to set up a mining/basic exploring school for the less experienced players
If he'll link the system I was going to head over, have a look and probably link a couple of screenies since it's one of those things that's way easier to show people. Won't be tonight now though because I have to be up at 5.15 am (!) for a 7am hospital appointment. Yeah I love my life now lol.
Like I said from what you describe I definitely think it's possible and honesty? Yeah it can get confusing with painite hotspots especially - the way they implemented them with cores being available in metal-rich outer ring hotspots, but not laser mining, just made it unnecessarily confusing in my opinion.
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Not your fault mate, only so much we can do, but good on you for offering. Good luck with your appointment in the morning, and don't get any of the mince to take home with you...!
I think ED really needs to fix this "ping and stuff glows" thing. If you're in any hotspot, a ping should result in rocks you're looking for, i.e., if it glows, that's something you should want to mine. A painite rich thing should glow one color. A void opal thing should glow another color. A deep core anything should glow a third color. I always seem to find everything that I'm NOT looking for, so I get the OP's point.
The problem is that while you're looking at shades of yellow/orange, even the bright glowing ones seem to be trolling me (and I'm sure other players as well). The entire point of pinging them is to bring "special ones" to our attention. When it comes to my attention I toss a prospector limpet into it and find out that the bright glow is for a bunch of stuff I'm not looking for. And this is in a [fill in name of item] hotspot. I'm not saying that one should NOT have to search high and low for something; there should be a certain amount of effort put into it. But if you can PING something, it should show me what I WANT in the first place, not just tempt me with "I might be good stuffs."
The problem is that while you're looking at shades of yellow/orange, even the bright glowing ones seem to be trolling me (and I'm sure other players as well). The entire point of pinging them is to bring "special ones" to our attention. When it comes to my attention I toss a prospector limpet into it and find out that the bright glow is for a bunch of stuff I'm not looking for. And this is in a [fill in name of item] hotspot. I'm not saying that one should NOT have to search high and low for something; there should be a certain amount of effort put into it. But if you can PING something, it should show me what I WANT in the first place, not just tempt me with "I might be good stuffs."