No Squee from meeee

[MikeSnos]

FD have failed to induce a single squee in me today. Why?

Well Firstly I'm not really fussed about Planetary Landings (PL) and to be honest I would rather that the following were finished first.

• Galaxy/Planetary textures/rendering etc - I've been happy with it myself but many are not and something clearly needs to be done.
• PowerPlay needs to be completed as well as the missions and other RP features... Why add yet another arena when PP etc can barely cope properly with the existing arena?
• The remaining ships need to be added plus additional non-playing ships to add colour and variety... Traffic is all a bit samey at the moment... Sort of like driving along a motorway and only seeing Ford Focuses.
• In a similar vein we also need to see more station types appearing plus the cities in the sky concepts we saw many moons ago.
• (Added Later) Also the AI needs to be completed and bought into the game as well

Back to PL again. This should be held over until next year really.... Why?

• Time. More time needs to be devoted to making it work. It'll take a lot of work, a lot more than that used to generate the Galaxy since everything will be that much closer hence more scrutiny over detail, quality, believability and variety
• Addition of partial functionality has just yielded problems in the past. Look at PP (second thoughts, don't). Wait until you have a decent model and detail before letting people loose on it for heaven's sake and cut out all the inevitable whining from people who will say 'it's broken', 'it looks naff', 'where's the Krait' etc etc.

My current low mood doesn't help I'm sure but sadly PL doesn't really fill me with delight at this moment....

 

[Alien]

retracted

 

[MikeSnos]

Retracted due to retraction....

 

[HipToss]

Squee is a comic, and a brilliant one at that/

 

[Alien]

For once I'm going to be harsh...

Recently I've seen a lot of posts from you proclaiming this and that and, sometimes, the other... Well not in my thread please... If you can't accept the way things have gone with the usage of Squee then go away (being very very restrained here)... Many of us have used it, and some of us have misappropriated it... I've been there since it first got uttered and know very well what it's meaning is.... Don't rile me further with your attitude... Please.

Fine, post retracted, it now only exists in your quoting me (unless you want to edit that).
Mike, you've surprised me. I'm not sure where this anger has come from, but I don't think I'm completely at fault here. If I upset you that much, use the ignore feature, that's what it's there for.

 

[Alien]

Retracted due to retraction....

No. Retype it without the quote.

If something moves you that much to give an honest reaction, stick to it, don't back down.
Yes, your words hurt, but you were being honest, and I respect that.
I don't expect to be popular, or to please everyone, I give my honest opinion, how people choose to handle that is up to them. I don't say things to upset people, even if that is what happens.

 

[Bomba Luigi]

People who do planetary landing and people who do PP are probably not the same, and people who do ships are yet some other people I guess.

A Team working on something does not slow down or hinder a other team working on something else.

 

[ZeeWolf]

They did announce 1.5 as a ships expansion with the remaining ships and specifically stated it would arrive before horizons.

 

[Pendra]

FD doing what it is used to.

SC made Space sims trendy again. FD piggy backed on their hype. They sold a Promise. And then delivered a something crappy.

EVE - Valkyrie: Space dogfight is coming! FD "cames" up with its arena shooter.

NMS hyped planetary landings. FD figured it is a high time to promise planetary landing, too. Plus they are trying to secure sales before NMS hits the market and, all of a sudden, they are not the only modernish space game around.


ED is about as original as the guys who set these development paths.

 

[Brimstone]

FD doing what it is used to.

SC made Space sims trendy again. FD piggy backed on their hype. They sold a Promise. And then delivered a something crappy.

EVE - Valkyrie: Space dogfight is coming! FD "cames" up with its arena shooter.

NMS hyped planetary landings. FD figured it is a high time to promise planetary landing, too. Plus they are trying to secure sales before NMS hits the market and, all of a sudden, they are not the only modernish space game around.


ED is about as original as the guys who set these development paths.

WHOA WHOA WHOA DUDEBRODUDER get your facts straight man, learn some history, open up a book, or just use Google.

Or look around the forum and find the " Elite Dangerous officially the longest running space-sim series" thread in the news forum. Yup, Guinness Book of World Records baby.

 

[bossbrigand]

FD have failed to induce a single squee in me today. Why?

Well Firstly I'm not really fussed about Planetary Landings (PL) and to be honest I would rather that the following were finished first.

• Galaxy/Planetary textures/rendering etc - I've been happy with it myself but many are not and something clearly needs to be done.

Like what? Looks fine to me.

• PowerPlay needs to be completed as well as the missions and other RP features... Why add yet another arena when PP etc can barely cope properly with the existing arena?

They're doing this. I agree there need to be more "roleplay" features (to use it the way you mean it), but those are coming.

• The remaining ships need to be added plus additional non-playing ships to add colour and variety... Traffic is all a bit samey at the moment... Sort of like driving along a motorway and only seeing Ford Focuses.

There will be over 30 ships by the time Horizons is live. The 1.5 update is called 'Ships' and will release prior to Horizons. It is said to add a minimum of 11 new vessels - not variants, either, from the sound of things.

• In a similar vein we also need to see more station types appearing plus the cities in the sky concepts we saw many moons ago.

The three (four?) new station types from CQC are being place around the galaxy.

Back to PL again. This should be held over until next year really.... Why?

• Time. More time needs to be devoted to making it work. It'll take a lot of work, a lot more than that used to generate the Galaxy since everything will be that much closer hence more scrutiny over detail, quality, believability and variety

The first phase of PL includes only airless rocky moons. There will be surface colonies to dock with. From the sounds of it, they have a working prototype of all of it already.

• Addition of partial functionality has just yielded problems in the past. Look at PP (second thoughts, don't). Wait until you have a decent model and detail before letting people loose on it for heaven's sake and cut out all the inevitable whining from people who will say 'it's broken', 'it looks naff', 'where's the Krait' etc etc.

For better or worse, that doesn't appear to be FD's MO, so I don't expect anything about this to change. But I'll have you know I look at my PP every day.

FD doing what it is used to.

SC made Space sims trendy again. FD piggy backed on their hype. They sold a Promise. And then delivered a something crappy.

EVE - Valkyrie: Space dogfight is coming! FD "cames" up with its arena shooter.

NMS hyped planetary landings. FD figured it is a high time to promise planetary landing, too. Plus they are trying to secure sales before NMS hits the market and, all of a sudden, they are not the only modernish space game around.


ED is about as original as the guys who set these development paths.

Elite existed long, long, long, looooooooong before SC. Chris Roberts even openly states he took inspiration from Elite.

The arena shooter was partially in before Valkyrie was announced. It's a no brainer. And to say Elite stole anything from No Man's Sky - you might as well say Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart stole from Falco. Come on, now. NMS took its inspiration from earlier Elite games that featured planetary landings. Planetary landings were confirmed for ED before NMS was even announced.

I know it's fun to pretend to be stupid, so I'm hoping you're just having fun.

 

[streki]

FD doing what it is used to.

SC made Space sims trendy again. FD piggy backed on their hype. They sold a Promise. And then delivered a something crappy.

EVE - Valkyrie: Space dogfight is coming! FD "cames" up with its arena shooter.

NMS hyped planetary landings. FD figured it is a high time to promise planetary landing, too. Plus they are trying to secure sales before NMS hits the market and, all of a sudden, they are not the only modernish space game around.


ED is about as original as the guys who set these development paths.

Clearly you don't know your history mate, and your post is therefore complete gibberish.

 

[Pendra]

Star Trek is the longest running space sim/game franchise. Super Star Trek was released in 1971 and STO is still active.
Star Wars is the longest running space franchise with first person 3D shooters. Atari released an arcade game in 1983. SW TOR - Starfigher is still active.
WG made up the Most players ever online and gaming on the same server entry for WOT and holds the record ever since. STO made up the Most people in ST dresses ever gathered entry.

You can tailor make any Guinness record and hold it as long as there is no one who would care enough to challenge you.

 

[bossbrigand]

Star Trek is the longest running space sim/game franchise. Super Star Trek was released in 1971 and STO is still active.
Star Wars is the longest running space franchise with first person 3D shooters. Atari released an arcade game in 1983. SW TOR - Starfigher is still active.
WG made up the Most players ever online and gaming on the same server entry for WOT and holds the record ever since. STO made up the Most people in ST dresses ever gathered entry.

You can tailor make any Guinness record and hold it as long as there is no one who would care enough to challenge you.

So you aren't even going to try to defend how wrong you are, but just focus on a single point of semantics instead? OK friendo. ;~)

 

[KellyR]

FD doing what it is used to.

SC made Space sims trendy again. FD piggy backed on their hype. They sold a Promise. And then delivered a something crappy.

EVE - Valkyrie: Space dogfight is coming! FD "cames" up with its arena shooter.

NMS hyped planetary landings. FD figured it is a high time to promise planetary landing, too. Plus they are trying to secure sales before NMS hits the market and, all of a sudden, they are not the only modernish space game around.


ED is about as original as the guys who set these development paths.

Really? About as original as the guys who set these development paths? Hmmm. Can you show me a pre 1985 space game that had rotating stations that required skill to dock with? If so and I can confirm it, which I will make an effort to do, I'll concede the point. As for FD responding to SC, Eve, and NMS sure, they are competitors. That's what competitors do; they try to beat each other to the punch or respond if a competitor comes up with something that people like. That's just the nature of the beast. "Don't tell owls to spare the mice. Owls acting as owls must is not a vice."

As for selling a promise and then delivering something crappy, that's your opinion, sir/ma'am. I don't think it's at all crappy and a lot of others don't either. The OP doesn't seem to think it's crappy, he just thinks their design goals aren't what they should be. He might be right and he might be wrong. I will say that it is their game. They have a lot of statistics and figures we have never seen (and never will see). Since we don't have all the information that they do, isn't it just possible that maybe they are on the right track? Maybe they're not. But maybe they are. We can't tell for certain because we don't have access to all the information on the way people play. They do have access to that information from their game servers.

 

[ZeeWolf]

Star Trek is the longest running space sim/game franchise. Super Star Trek was released in 1971 and STO is still active.
Star Wars is the longest running space franchise with first person 3D shooters. Atari released an arcade game in 1983. SW TOR - Starfigher is still active.
WG made up the Most players ever online and gaming on the same server entry for WOT and holds the record ever since. STO made up the Most people in ST dresses ever gathered entry.

You can tailor make any Guinness record and hold it as long as there is no one who would care enough to challenge you.

Those are TV/Movie franchises licences by completely different series of games.

 

[Steve50]

ED is about as original as the guys who set these development paths.

Not sure if serious or s.....

 

[SonGon]

FD have failed to induce a single squee in me today. Why?

Well Firstly I'm not really fussed about Planetary Landings (PL) and to be honest I would rather that the following were finished first.

• Galaxy/Planetary textures/rendering etc - I've been happy with it myself but many are not and something clearly needs to be done.
• PowerPlay needs to be completed as well as the missions and other RP features... Why add yet another arena when PP etc can barely cope properly with the existing arena?
• The remaining ships need to be added plus additional non-playing ships to add colour and variety... Traffic is all a bit samey at the moment... Sort of like driving along a motorway and only seeing Ford Focuses.
• In a similar vein we also need to see more station types appearing plus the cities in the sky concepts we saw many moons ago.

Back to PL again. This should be held over until next year really.... Why?

• Time. More time needs to be devoted to making it work. It'll take a lot of work, a lot more than that used to generate the Galaxy since everything will be that much closer hence more scrutiny over detail, quality, believability and variety
• Addition of partial functionality has just yielded problems in the past. Look at PP (second thoughts, don't). Wait until you have a decent model and detail before letting people loose on it for heaven's sake and cut out all the inevitable whining from people who will say 'it's broken', 'it looks naff', 'where's the Krait' etc etc.

My current low mood doesn't help I'm sure but sadly PL doesn't really fill me with delight at this moment....

quote 100% so sad

 

[stevesideas]

FD have created a thread specifically based on feedback for PP so I don't see why you would think that won't be tweaked at some point within the near ish future. Planetary Landings is something I'm really looking forward to and I know that I'm not alone in that excitement.

I do agree with the station type variation. There was mention of assets from CQC coming to the main game so this could include updates and tweaks to stations and surrounding areas.

I'm happy ish with galaxy rendering and planetary textures. I'm sure they will improve more over time. These aren't big issues IMO.

I think the in game bugs are the things that annoy me from time to time. I hope that some of these are addressed at some point !

 

[777Driver]

Not sure if serious or s.....

Don't know about you, but I had a good laugh reading his post