No success with deep core mining (aka Void Opal farming)

Any suggestions re deep core mining? I have tried mining from populated areas to more than 400 ly outside the bubbles. I am finding less than one valuable mineral rocks per hour, and I average less than six tons per rock. And then there are the Pirates. I have gone more than 400 ly past any populated systems and every time I find a void opal, or other hot spot, two ai pirates show up and try to take my goods or destroy my ship. And, the farther out I go the less icy rings I find that have real hot spots. I keep hearing that the icy rings near populated areas get mined out, but I have found that their are less and less loaded icy rings the farther out into space that I get.

Any suggestions?
 
First, perhaps best, trick is to get good at being able to quickly identify by sight which asteroids can have void opals vs. ones that never will, so you don't waste time dithering around with useless ones. Beyond that, finding overlapping hotspots seems to help a lot.

Regarding the pirates, if you are not in a RES, some ships (often pirates, but not always) will always show up when you first drop into the ring....so go in with an empty cargo hold, wait until the pirates come and scan you, and only once they leave start mining. Unless you are in a RES, more pirates never show up after that first batch.

If you relog while mining, or go to supercruise and then go back to mining, however, you will get that first visit again. This time with goods in your hold from your earlier mining. You either need to be unloading everything you mine each play session or equip your ship to fight them.
 
I believe pirates will still turn up within 2000ly of the bubble, so you'll need to go further afield to avoid them entirely. My suggestion would be to avoid the void opals and try painite. With ice rings, you only have void opals and low temperature diamonds with everything else being rubbish. In metallic rings, pretty much everything is worth picking up and earnings from painite are still sizable.
 
Void opals etc are also present outside hot spots, so it may be worth trying to mine in random spots as well. There may be less depletion there, and maybe even less pirates. As stated above, go with an empty hold so that the first flock of pirates have nothing to gain.

As for the low tonnage - do you have issues getting the charges set right? I've been running with plenty of collector limpets to be able to grab all of the released minerals - they will disappear after a while.

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They look kinda popcorn shaped and when the pulse wave hits them they glow bright gold even when you are close up. As others have said, the pirates always show up when you drop into the hotspot, so just make sure you arrive with an empty cargo, wait until they leave, then mine and sell your load before logging off.
 
They look kinda popcorn shaped and when the pulse wave hits them they glow bright gold even when you are close up. As others have said, the pirates always show up when you drop into the hotspot, so just make sure you arrive with an empty cargo, wait until they leave, then mine and sell your load before logging off.
And if you're gonna log off in a hotspot, get above the asteroids, full pips to engines, 2 to shields.
When you log back on, drop back into the asteroids (DONT start mining) and as soon as you see contacts head directly away, keep boosting. Do this for a few minutes and then commerce mining.

Works for me in a T9, no issues with pirates.

As for spotting core asteroids... I'm not too good at that myself.
 
Any suggestions re deep core mining? I have tried mining from populated areas to more than 400 ly outside the bubbles. I am finding less than one valuable mineral rocks per hour, and I average less than six tons per rock. And then there are the Pirates. I have gone more than 400 ly past any populated systems and every time I find a void opal, or other hot spot, two ai pirates show up and try to take my goods or destroy my ship. And, the farther out I go the less icy rings I find that have real hot spots. I keep hearing that the icy rings near populated areas get mined out, but I have found that their are less and less loaded icy rings the farther out into space that I get.

Any suggestions?
1. You don't need to go outside the bubble to mine VO
2. Any VO hotspot should do
3. Don't pass up anything that looks like it could be a core. I've found plenty I thought "meh, not bright enough but I'm going to probe it anyhow" and there was a VO core. It depends on your distance, the ambient light and your graphics settings.
4. Find the highest paying systems, look for icy rings in or near (one jump)
5. I've never had a problem finding void opals. Sometimes there will be a lag between finds, but often I can gather 200 tons in a session (just over an hour). Sometimes I hop out of the site and hit an adjacent site in the same ring.
6. Fly fast, use FA off and scan a wide azimuth above the asteroids (or below). Many of my finds are to the periphery.
 
Void opals etc are also present outside hot spots, so it may be worth trying to mine in random spots as well. There may be less depletion there, and maybe even less pirates. As stated above, go with an empty hold so that the first flock of pirates have nothing to gain.

As for the low tonnage - do you have issues getting the charges set right? I've been running with plenty of collector limpets to be able to grab all of the released minerals - they will disappear after a while.

:D S
I fill up with collector limpets and always end up dumping a few. They are cheap. I run 6 at a time, would use 9 if they didn't all commit suicide when the mineral clips inside the rock.
 
I believe pirates will still turn up within 2000ly of the bubble

No, they don't.

I have gone more than 400 ly past any populated systems and every time I find a void opal, or other hot spot, two ai pirates show up and try to take my goods or destroy my ship.

Just [boost] [boost] your way out of sight, and do it again when they show up for the 2nd time (which they often do). It will sometimes take a little effort, but you will loose them, or at least, till now I always have. There is no point in flying 1000 ly to avoid a couple of NPC's, just to fly another 1000 ly's back to sell the stuff you just mined.

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What Speedcuffs said :p

Also, core roids come in one shape, and one only. Familiarize yourself with that shape, and learn to ignore others, regardless the brightness. Just hang in there, luck equates to the amount of times you tried.
 
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1) Go to EDDB look up pristine icy rings near your location.
2) Probe rings for void opal hot spots.
3) Use a fast boosting miner (I use an orca 600+ m/s).
4) Know the roids that have cores. They use the same model assets for cores. There are many roids that are hot that cannot contain cores. Ignore them.
5) Boost ping boost ping boost ping.
6) Avoid dropping directly on the center of the hotspot. Other players will mine those spots. You will know because the core fracture cloud will show up in your instance.
7) Roids with cores reset about once every 24 hours.
8) Other minerals can fetch decent money (5-800 k over 1 mill for ltds) so don't be a greedy snob.
9) Look at EDDB for good prices (usually civil liberty and pirate activity) and make sure your prices are 24 hours or less old.
10) Rinse repeat profit.
 
No, they don't.



Just [boost] [boost] your way out of sight, and do it again when they show up for the 2nd time (which they often do). It will sometimes take a little effort, but you will loose them, or at least, till now I always have. There is no point in flying 1000 ly to avoid a couple of NPC's, just to fly another 1000 ly's back to sell the stuff you just mined.

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What Speedcuffs said :p

Also, core roids come in one shape, and one only. Familiarize yourself with that shape, and learn to ignore others, regardless the brightness. Just hang in there, luck equates to the amount of times you tried.
If you get lucky, two will drop out not winged. They often begin to kill each other. It's a hoot, like taking pirate lord kill missions and dropping into a CNB and watching the piranhas attack the unsuspecting pirates as they pop in unannounced.
 

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And if you're gonna log off in a hotspot, get above the asteroids, full pips to engines, 2 to shields.
When you log back on, drop back into the asteroids (DONT start mining) and as soon as you see contacts head directly away, keep boosting. Do this for a few minutes and then commerce mining.

Works for me in a T9, no issues with pirates.

As for spotting core asteroids... I'm not too good at that myself.
Here a trick I do when I log off. I log off in a cracked asteroid. Make sure your ship temp is freezing. When you log back on. You should still be in that spot and you be able to see the other ships and just wait and they will leave. They can't locate a frozen ship. ❄☃
 
Yes. As I mentioned, you can pretty easily outrun NPC's, so any distance you want to travel to in order to avoid them is that distance traveled too far.
From my personal experience, its more like 500 ly, +/- 100, for what its worth.
Well I wasn't actually suggesting that the OP go that far (Well, they could, but just to do mining would be crazy- for that reason) so I'd agree they're not worth the effort in doing avoiding like that. There was a debate about this a couple of months back and someone said they had seen pirates at around this distance. Perhaps they were wrong.

Whether it's 500ly or 2000ly, both would be too far for me, but thanks for the correction.
 
Any suggestions re deep core mining? I have tried mining from populated areas to more than 400 ly outside the bubbles. I am finding less than one valuable mineral rocks per hour, and I average less than six tons per rock. And then there are the Pirates. I have gone more than 400 ly past any populated systems and every time I find a void opal, or other hot spot, two ai pirates show up and try to take my goods or destroy my ship. And, the farther out I go the less icy rings I find that have real hot spots. I keep hearing that the icy rings near populated areas get mined out, but I have found that their are less and less loaded icy rings the farther out into space that I get.

Any suggestions?

I average 100 mil an hour with my Imperial Cutter, but I've gotten a lot of practice and am very efficient with opal mining, let me share you some tips.

1. I recommend starting in Solo mode.
2. Because your having problems with pirates, I recommend out fitting a fast ship that can out run them if you encounter them, for example an Orca. You can still get 64 tons of cargo space.
3. It doesn't matter where it is, but you need to find an ice ring close to your current location that is a pristine ice ring (Use eddb or inara). Whats more important is to find a ice ring that is in darkness, and not lit up with sun light. This is important, because a dark ring will make life a lot easier when trying to spot glowing cores.
4. Once you have found the ideal ice ring, and a void opal hot spot, drop out of super cruise near the edge of the hot spot, (you want to be heading to the center in a straight line as you harvest opals).
5. Turn on the night vision for your ship.
6. This will be a bit difficult to explain, do not go into the ice ring directly but position your ship in a way so that your ship cockpit is horizontal to the plane of asteroids in the ring (where you can see the rocks in the upper top of your cockpit).
7. Put all power to engines, and while holding down your pulse wave scanner, go full speed in a straight line towards hotspot centre waypoint while looking up for core rocks. Move your hud and look left to right (don't forget to keep boosting when you can).
8. Now this is important. To find the core rocks we only need understand two things. Small and bright. We will ignore any glowing rock that is not small and glowing. 99% of the time the smallest rock is the core rock.
9. Once you have found a small glowing core rock, go to it and launch a prospector. As you see the prospector moving towards the rock, make sure to select it to see what the actual core is once the prospector hits the rock. If the core is not an Opal go back to step number 6 and keep looking.
10. Once you have found a Opal Core, you will need to become efficient at busting it open, and this can only be done with practice. You should try to only ever use 2-4 charges at most when breaking these rocks open.
11. Before we start its important that you know how to move around the rock and maneuver your ship for efficient fast placement of charges. In terms of movement, we will mainly use the ships downward directional thrusters. Its hard to explain but I mean your ship will be moving around the asteroid rock vertically downwards with your directional thruster as you circle around the rock looking for fissures.
12. Go to your targeting panel/contacts. We always want to put chargers into asteroid fissures with low strength first. Select a asteroid fissure with low strength, maneuver your ship using the directional thrusters until your in front of the fissure. For the first low strength fissure, hold the charge till max and release. Select your second low strength fissure and hold the charge until at least two bars are highlighted before release. Sometimes two low strengh fissures will be good enough to get optimum yeld, if not you now need to select a high strength fissure and put a low yield charge into it (usually hold the charge until first bar is filled up).
13. Detonate the optimum yield and collect the goods.

Hope this helps.
 
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The center of a Void Opal hotspot can be 'mined out' as the 'roids are supposed to be persisitent.
I choose a spot 2.5 to 4 Mm out from the VO nav point. And then work consistently towards the nav point.
 
Another thing not really mentioned: I never waste a prospector limpet without doing a visual inspection first.

Glowing hot -- check.
Popcorn shape -- check.
Visible cracks on the surface -- check. Time to get to work!

It's only now that I would fire up a prospector limpet drone. I already know it's a core 'roid, I just need the targetable fissures.

Always NV and lights on when core mining.
 
My personal experience is that when mining in colonia the void opals, actually everything, is abundant and I've made considerable profits.
 
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