Non-Aquatic Animals swim WAAAAY too often...

well, a lot of others don't, due to it being extremely unrealistic and immersion breaking for these species. Having my river constantly flooded with hooved animals that realistically would not be swimming 24/7 for no reason is, honestly, extremely annoying. It's not realistic at all, and clearly many others agree.

If they fix this, there will likely be a new section for swim rates for various animals in the fdb files, so if you want swimming zebras, you can always mod them to swim again. ¯\(ツ)
So dont have it then
 
So dont have it then
....what? Tf do you mean "so don't have it then"? Don't have what??? Don't use hooved animals at all????

I'm not going to just not use hooved animals or avoid making my habitats look nice to avoid having animals perform extremely unrealistic behaviors. I'm going to ask for Frontier to fix it, because it is an issue. This game is supposed to be realistic, zebras swimming 24/7 is not realistic.
 
....what? Tf do you mean "so don't have it then"? Don't have what??? Don't use hooved animals at all????

I'm not going to just not use hooved animals or avoid making my habitats look nice to avoid having animals perform extremely unrealistic behaviors. I'm going to ask for Frontier to fix it, because it is an issue. This game is supposed to be realistic, zebras swimming 24/7 is not realistic.
It's like saying ,,your Keepers aren't feeding the Animals for some Reason? Just stop keeping Animals"😂
 
Heh. They should switch the coding frequency for swimming ungulates with the frequency of arboreal animals preferring to climb. That way the arboreal animals would be in the trees all the time and the ungulates would hardly swim! (joking, I know, but it'd be nice if a: they'd drastically reduce the swimming frequency for most nonaquatic animals and increase the frequency of climbing for arboreal animals. Some animals, the the koala pretty much never leave a tree except to move to the next one, and its annoying to see them wandering around on the ground. And, honestly, they shouldn't have any of the primates except the Japanese maquack (spelling is not my strong suit), and the prob. monkey willingly enter water. The vast majority of primates really, really hate to get into water.
 
And, honestly, they shouldn't have any of the primates except the Japanese maquack (spelling is not my strong suit), and the prob. monkey willingly enter water. The vast majority of primates really, really hate to get into water.
The West African Chimpanzee is the only Chimpanzee Subspecies that is known to play with Water😉
But I don't know how far this Behavior goes. Maybe they could add some kind of Water Behavior to them too if they'll ever fix the Problem that not swimming Animals can't walk through shallow Water anymore. Would be so nice to see some proper Animations for this. But of course Water related Behavior for the Japanese Macaque has Priority
 
And, honestly, they shouldn't have any of the primates except the Japanese maquack (spelling is not my strong suit), and the prob. monkey willingly enter water. The vast majority of primates really, really hate to get into water.
In saying that I recently saw a super cute video of a gorilla splashing around some water that was coming out of a hose. I agree they shouldn't swim but it would be cool to see them use the dingo pool or something.
 
....what? Tf do you mean "so don't have it then"? Don't have what??? Don't use hooved animals at all????

I'm not going to just not use hooved animals or avoid making my habitats look nice to avoid having animals perform extremely unrealistic behaviors. I'm going to ask for Frontier to fix it, because it is an issue. This game is supposed to be realistic, zebras swimming 24/7 is not realistic.
That person (iwannintoddie3070) was clearly trolling. Reported it.

I do wish they'd have the Japanese Macaques go into warm water, though, not to swim around but to sit and warm up. There are some in a particular park in Japan that sit in hot springs in the cold weather. It's pretty cute, and actually an interesting behavioral adaptation. Their species preferences in game imply they need freezing cold and snow cover at all times to be comfortable, but from the hot tubbing behavior, they prefer the mountain summer weather and tolerate the winter cold more than enjoy it. I don't think they have snow cover year round throughout their entire range.
 
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That person (iwannintoddie3070) was clearly trolling. Reported it.

I do wish they'd have the Japanese Macaques go into warm water, though, not to swim around but to sit and warm up. There are some in a particular park in Japan that sit in hot springs in the cold weather. It's pretty cute, and actually an interesting behavioral adaptation. Their species preferences in game imply they need freezing cold and snow cover at all times to be comfortable, but from the hot tubbing behavior, they prefer the mountain summer weather and tolerate the winter cold more than enjoy it. I don't think they have snow cover year round throughout their entire range.
A snow "requirement" is kind of farcical anyway, for any species.
 
They should just get rid of snow requirement. I am currently building a South-African zoo and do want to keep happy polar bears ..without the snow obviously
Yeah, some kind of enrichment item like a 'snow pit' or 'snow wallow' or 'snow pool' would be better. Something the animals can roll in, dig in, or generally play in, like real zoos have, rather than somehow magically making snow appear on the ground year-round.
 
They should just get rid of snow requirement. I am currently building a South-African zoo and do want to keep happy polar bears ..without the snow obviously
I agree that the Need for Snow Terrain is a bit ridiculous but I think you can still keep Animals that need it with extremely high Happiness if you just don't add any Snow. I think the Polar Bears in my Hawaiian Marine Park do have something like 99% Happiness. I think you should also be able to place Rocks over the Snow Terrain if you want 100% Happiness (not sure if they only get covered if it's Snow that came directly from the Sky)

Yeah, some kind of enrichment item like a 'snow pit' or 'snow wallow' or 'snow pool' would be better. Something the animals can roll in, dig in, or generally play in, like real zoos have, rather than somehow magically making snow appear on the ground year-round.
Source: https://youtu.be/2XzgOsGmfv0
 
I think that the swimming frequency of most animals should be lowered, but that the ability to swim shouldn’t be removed.
Another thing I would also like in addition to the reduction of the frequency is to increase the depth before many animals switch to a swimming animation, to have more cases wading in shallows instead of switching to a swimming animation where the legs get to the ground.

And contradictory to most animals swimming too much, there are also quite a few animals that like to swim/wade in real like but can’t enter the water in the game. These ones should actually get the ability to swim and wade, though oftentimes still less than what most animals currently do.
 
And contradictory to most animals swimming too much, there are also quite a few animals that like to swim/wade in real like but can’t enter the water in the game. These ones should actually get the ability to swim and wade, though oftentimes still less than what most animals currently do.
Which are those?
 
Strongly agreed, it's kind of ridiculous just how often ungulates and lions in particular swim for no real reason.

I do wish they'd have the Japanese Macaques go into warm water, though, not to swim around but to sit and warm up. There are some in a particular park in Japan that sit in hot springs in the cold weather. It's pretty cute, and actually an interesting behavioral adaptation. Their species preferences in game imply they need freezing cold and snow cover at all times to be comfortable, but from the hot tubbing behavior, they prefer the mountain summer weather and tolerate the winter cold more than enjoy it. I don't think they have snow cover year round throughout their entire range.
If the datamined hot spring enrichment found alongside the capybara does come to pass, I really hope Frontier lets the macaques use it as well as capybaras. It feels like it was made for both of them.
 
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