non engineered pvp?

So I know you'll all say lurk for any threads, but you try typing pvp in and sifting through that.

Is there a pvp league or even just a group for non engineered pvp? I want to try pvp and use different builds and shipsbut with how long it takes to engineer each ship to be acceptable for competition it's just not viable for me.
 
The WHOLE point for most PVP commanders is they do not WANT a fair fight.
I wish you luck in finding a group.
 
The last GCI PvP league wasn't entirely unengineered but was restricted to a single grade 1 module per ship (with a few limitations on what that could be). They have run various one-off unengineered events as well. Less formally, you can probably ask for and find an unengineered individual fight on there easily enough.

We've run a couple of events out at Colonia with only locally-constructed ships, because making people do a 44kLY round trip just to enter is a bit harsh. I can talk to people about organising another if there's demand, but I'm guessing you're probably looking for something closer to where you are?

You might also have some luck just asking people you meet at PvP hotspots (e.g. CGs) if they're interested in an unengineered duel. More likely to work if the CG is in or near a system with decent outfitting so they can throw something together, of course.
 
Would be nice to have a private group where you can only fly completely unengineered or so, but that is impossible to control sadly... And since FDev thinks engineering is really great, they will not add anything like that either. So the bottom line is, you need to put enormous amounts of time engineering one ship, which usually will still be worse compared to people that spent five times the enormous time you have.

Even if you manage to get PvP ready, this kills all flexibility, because you can't just "test that other ship" as you could pre-2.1, you first have to engineer it for several days/weeks (depending on your playtime).
 
If you go into PvP by pulling someone from supercruise (or shooting someone in a RES/CZ/Beacon), you'll likely fish out a highly engineered ship. If you agree on a fight beforehand, anything and everything is possible - it's up to you.
 
The last GCI PvP league wasn't entirely unengineered but was restricted to a single grade 1 module per ship (with a few limitations on what that could be). They have run various one-off unengineered events as well. Less formally, you can probably ask for and find an unengineered individual fight on there easily enough.

We've run a couple of events out at Colonia with only locally-constructed ships, because making people do a 44kLY round trip just to enter is a bit harsh. I can talk to people about organising another if there's demand, but I'm guessing you're probably looking for something closer to where you are?

You might also have some luck just asking people you meet at PvP hotspots (e.g. CGs) if they're interested in an unengineered duel. More likely to work if the CG is in or near a system with decent outfitting so they can throw something together, of course.

I'm not sure how the pvp league works or how often it meets, but I'm sure if there was a sub branch or something dedicated to unengineered ships it would have a lot more interest, I'm sure I'm not alone in not trying the pvp league because of time constraints on engineering a single ship to the level most pvpers are at, and then only being able to have 1 ship or loadout and not being able to try new ships and stuff.
 
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