Not getting any Empire rep progress since 1.1

[Geezer32]

Hi All.


Since the 1.1 changes to the mission completion screen, I can no longer tell if I get any actual progress from faction missions.

Before it used to show your 'true' alignment with the local factions and also a % increase or 0% if there was none when completing a mission. Now with this bar system, I can't tell.
Since becoming allied with the Empire, every local Empire aligned faction also is 'allied' so doing a mission I now can't tell if I am progressing at all.

The other issue is in the last 20 missions I have noticed that I am not getting the rep up arrow for the Empire at all on the right side main status panel. The local factions yes, are all getting rep up arrows, but nothing on the Empire main,

What gives?

 

[Devil's Refugee]

Hi All.


Since the 1.1 changes to the mission completion screen, I can no longer tell if I get any actual progress from faction missions.

Before it used to show your 'true' alignment with the local factions and also a % increase or 0% if there was none when completing a mission. Now with this bar system, I can't tell.
Since becoming allied with the Empire, every local Empire aligned faction also is 'allied' so doing a mission I now can't tell if I am progressing at all.

The other issue is in the last 20 missions I have noticed that I am not getting the rep up arrow for the Empire at all on the right side main status panel. The local factions yes, are all getting rep up arrows, but nothing on the Empire main,

What gives?

Not sure what you mean by "true alignment", the progress you're referring to sounds like the faction's system influence, not yours. If you're already Allied to the Empire then there's not really much else to do other than complete the ranking missions. You can't get higher than Allied. There are known issues with the reputation system but I don't think what you're describing isn't anything other than normal ?

 

[Whiterose]

Its working okay. I went from Knight to Lord to Baron. All since the 1.1 update. Once you are allied with a faction do missions for other minor factiosn or move to a different system.

 

[Geezer32]

Its working okay. I went from Knight to Lord to Baron. All since the 1.1 update. Once you are allied with a faction do missions for other minor factiosn or move to a different system.

I have done all these things, I am not talking about increasing the major faction rep above allied, I know that peaks there. I am talking about the minor factions which all also say allied, regardless of whether I have seen them before or not. I have also gained levels since 1.1, but it seems to have stopped totally.

Before 1.1 the main status of a minor faction would still be allied, but when you completed a mission for them the actual reputation would show which would be neutral or friendly. From this you could see the minor faction reputation increasing, now you cannot at all.

As I mentioned, the overall Empire rep increase has stopped totally since making Viscount. I have done 20+ local missions for various minor factions and have not seen a single rep up arrow on the major Empire faction.

 

[Geezer32]

Not sure what you mean by "true alignment", the progress you're referring to sounds like the faction's system influence, not yours. If you're already Allied to the Empire then there's not really much else to do other than complete the ranking missions. You can't get higher than Allied. There are known issues with the reputation system but I don't think what you're describing isn't anything other than normal ?

I mean that before 1.1 you could see actual reputation with minor factions. When completing a mission you could see a new faction would be 'nuetral' and you could increase them. now everyone is allied regardless if you have ever done a mission for them before.

So without any visible rep increase on the main Empire faction (the minor ones all show + rep) I have no way of knowing if I am actually achieving anything to the Empire progression. It used to be the case if you did any successful mission for any minor faction, the Empire rep would get a "+". I am not getting that now.

 

[Geezer32]

I'll try to make it clearer, before 1.1 I was already allied with Empire, and all minor factions did still show as allied on the status page. BUT when completing a mission, the actual minor faction rep would show and if it was a new one would be 'neutral' etc. Now since 1.1 when completing a mission, they all say Allied regardless if I have seen them before.

OK so if this is normal now, I have no way of knowing if the missions I am doing are contributing to naval progression or not. That's where I'm going with this.

 

[BoingZebadee]

Hi, the same happens to me with Federation rep. I am allied with the Feds and if the system and/or station is Fed then I tend to ne at least friendly but usually allied with all but the independent stations.
In the last 2 weeks I wanted to increase rank within the Feds from Chief Petty Officer so I can get the new Corvette being released soon. I know from the various rank progression guides that you need to increase the minor faction rep if the others are already Allied in order to get the next ranking mission.
So 2 weeks ago I started grinding rep in regular systems on my trading routes. I chose the stations that weren't green allied Fed ones that I have previously visited and just chose the neutral and friendly stations. Also did 5000 tones in the Yembo community goal and managed to get that station to go green but not one iota of rep increase at all. All the rep blue sliders stayed the same, even though every BB mission gave a blue rep increase arrow. I know they are the same for almost every station I have visited because each time I completed a new mission for a new faction I waited till the progress bar was shown and made a list of about 20 different factions in 6 different systems and the only movement in rep I had was at Brani in a station I was already allied with the blank blue allied progress bar increased about 3mm only (around 2% of total rep bar). Also been trading in Cupis to gain rep there and lost rep there for killing 6 pirates for a warzone mission, (although that was expected) but apart from the drop in 1 faction the rest haven't moved. Same with Ho Hsien so I moved to a system further away, with exactly the same problem.
I did the warzone mission and more conflict zone kills in order to reach expert in combat, hoping that would help the rank mission appear, but nothing.
So finally a few days ago I move 100 ly away and started grinding rep again, all legal mission from BB and once again after the first hand in for each mission I measured the progress bar and noted whether it was neutral, friendly or allied. Absolutely nothing! No increases.
So 2 weeks 6 different systems and now 600 bulletin board missions and the only movement in rep I've had is 2% increase in an allied stems major faction and a complete loss of rep in Cupis.
So my question to FD is how many thousands of missions for a minor faction should it take to increase from neutral to friendly. This rep system isn't working for me at all, I mean a 2% increase in rep with one of about 15 stations visited is rubbish.
FD help would be appreciated, wont submit a ticket as this isn't a game breaker as I can still play, its just I cant play the way I would like too, the way other commanders seem to be able to progress, I am obviously doing something wrong, somewhere.

 

[Whiterose]

I think its all about clarity. None of us know what we really should be doing to progress rank. We think we know, and try different things. We progress but dont exactly know what we have done to progress. I dod one mission for a minor faction, next thing I am allied. Also there is no way of knowing your status with a minor faction unless you visit the system. I still have the little blue up arrows as I am only a Baron, and get that from trading. The right UI shows influence within the system, not rep with the particulat faction. You only see the rep when you have completed a mission. I understand thresholds etc for promotion, and the need to move about to find minor factions that you are not allied with.
I agree its still playable, just very messy and not fully understood.

 

[Spam]

Best advice for gaining ranks - Ignorance is Bliss.

Just get ya head down, grind out some missions and move about a bit and it will happen.
Also, don't pay too much attention to what you are doing. Early on in the progression it got all interesting when you had to kill that big bad dropship. But for Knight to Lord I had to smuggle??? some gear. And for Lord to Baron I, get this for uber awesomeness, delivered 3 algae. lolwut?

But I do have my Clipper and man it was worth it. I love it.

 

[Frozen-Steel]

The rep screen on the right side panel always shows an arrow where rep changed last. The way I play it, travel between system types that are easy to trade in, but one has to be agri because food donations.
Started last Sunday, did maybe an hour a day, got from Lieutenant to Lt. Commander by Wednesday.

I do agree it would be nice to have some way of seeing the exact rep and the thresholds you need for further missions, if you're unlucky and don't get any for a while, doubts in it actually working are only natural.

 

[Geezer32]

The rep screen on the right side panel always shows an arrow where rep changed last.

That's the part I am having an issue with, no matter how many missions I do there is no recent rep change on Empire at all. It used to be if I had a successful mission, there would be an Empire rep increase as well as the local faction every time. Now there's nothing on Empire but the minor faction rep increase is still there.

 

[Heracles]

Pure speculation, but perhaps if you do anything against an aligned faction, e.g. fire on one of their ships, the action may put a block on your progress.

I am very careful to check who's aligned with who before opening fire.

As an aside, yesterday I dropped into a USS and observed two Vipers attacking a Cobra. The Cobra was "wanted" and aligned with a Federation faction at my destination station. The two Vipers were aligned with the minor factions at my starport and not Federation aligned!

There was no civil war going on.

I just sat in the middle of the melee and watched them going at each other. I could have helped the wanted Cobra, since he was a Fed. But he was "wanted"? I could have shot him and in doing so, helped the two Vipers ( and the non Federation aligned factions). In the end I did nothing! The ships ignored me.

A case of " if in doubt do nowt". Sorry, nowt is northern England slang for nothing

There are many ways to play, I suppose that's what makes ED intriguing.

 

[Jorlin]

As long as you still get those blue upward arrows in the righthand menu, you aren't fully topped out. Maybe already allied...but not maxed.

 

[Geezer32]

As long as you still get those blue upward arrows in the righthand menu, you aren't fully topped out. Maybe already allied...but not maxed.

But I'm not getting them, that's the issue. No matter how many missions I do. I get them for the minor factions but not Empire.

Since making Count I've had no rep improvement for Empire at all, or if I am and I'm getting no indication, either way it's crap.

I feel like I'm wasting my time endlessly running missions to get the last Empire rank when I have no indication of progress at all. This can't be as intended surely.

 

[piercehead]

But I'm not getting them, that's the issue. No matter how many missions I do. I get them for the minor factions but not Empire.

Since making Count I've had no rep improvement for Empire at all, or if I am and I'm getting no indication, either way it's crap.

I feel like I'm wasting my time endlessly running missions to get the last Empire rank when I have no indication of progress at all. This can't be as intended surely.

Bear in mind Rank appears to wholly separate from Reputation. The only way you can increase your Rank is by doing the specific Rank missions, not by increasing your Reputation.

Maybe the reason you're not seeing the blue arrow next to Empire is because you're already maxed out at Allied?

 

[ghetto]

Im in the same position, allied with both empire and federation, Count in Empire and Lietenant with the feds... no more progression missions

but i have a theory..

Shoot at empire security ships in a anarchy system, youre overall rank with the empire will drop back to friendly\neutral.. you will then see reputation increase for each mission with the individual factions again..this in turn will trigger the naval missions.