NPC appearance RNG might need a little bit more work....
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"CHEN" is a Chinese family name (陈). In order to get a "Chen" for a name, the male line must transfer it down to the descendants (isn't it the same for western people?). Even if you mix and match races, to keep the "Chen" name, the male must own this name. If a female "Chen" marries a male of another race, her kids would take on the name of the father. The "Chen" would be lost.
So Mr Louie Chen above, might have a different-raced mother, but definitely a Chinese father.
ps: If it's "Lee" it might be different.. cuz I've seen Caucasians named LEE and it amuses the heck out of me
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Maybe his great great great grandfather was Chinese and each of them only had sons. There, problem solved. In a galaxy of trillions, you can't say it's impossible.
Also, the woman who used to do the weather in my hometown had that last name, and she was definitely NOT Chinese. She also had darker skin. I suggest you get out more.
Also, the woman who used to do the weather in my hometown had that last name, and she was definitely NOT Chinese. She also had darker skin. I suggest you get out more.
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Yup and all along the male line they had to own the Chinese name. So his grandfather was a Chen, his dad too. And on and on backwards until Ancient China times
its fine.
First Gen Chen marries a Sudanese.. produces male half chinese/half sudanese son.
Half sudanese Chen marries a Nigerian.. produce male quarter chinese, 3/4 african son.
3/4 african Chen marries a Kenyan.. produce male 1/8 chinese, 7/8 african son.
with 1200 years between this and 3303, Louie Chen is a perfectly fine name for this Captain.
You can tell he still has Chinese heritage, by his desire to go to war and his naivety in his belief that he will win =)
First Gen Chen marries a Sudanese.. produces male half chinese/half sudanese son.
Half sudanese Chen marries a Nigerian.. produce male quarter chinese, 3/4 african son.
3/4 african Chen marries a Kenyan.. produce male 1/8 chinese, 7/8 african son.
with 1200 years between this and 3303, Louie Chen is a perfectly fine name for this Captain.
You can tell he still has Chinese heritage, by his desire to go to war and his naivety in his belief that he will win =)
Good lord what a racist post. Why even post it?
Uh-oh look at THIS guy:
This is former NFL player Kailee WONG!! OMG someone call the genetic RNG police! That name is NOT ALLOWED.
Seriously guy, the world is not as ignorant as you and your buddies who talk sh*t like this. It's not racist against Chinese people, it's obviously racist against darker-skinned people. You gotta be stupid to post something like that.
Uh-oh look at THIS guy:
This is former NFL player Kailee WONG!! OMG someone call the genetic RNG police! That name is NOT ALLOWED.
Seriously guy, the world is not as ignorant as you and your buddies who talk sh*t like this. It's not racist against Chinese people, it's obviously racist against darker-skinned people. You gotta be stupid to post something like that.
So, erm, a Chinese guy couldn't hook up with a black woman and have a male child?
Course, there certainly ARE issues with the NPC generator.
I've currently got an NPC SLF pilot who's probably the youngest NPC I've seen and who claims to have been "pensioned out of the Federal Navy".
I also saw a female NPC who claimed she headed off into space after her "wife decided to get herself pregnant while I was away fighting a war".
Course, there certainly ARE issues with the NPC generator.
I've currently got an NPC SLF pilot who's probably the youngest NPC I've seen and who claims to have been "pensioned out of the Federal Navy".
I also saw a female NPC who claimed she headed off into space after her "wife decided to get herself pregnant while I was away fighting a war".
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That's.... embarrassingly naive."CHEN" is a Chinese family name (陈). In order to get a "Chen" for a name, the male line must transfer it down to the descendants (isn't it the same for western people?). Even if you mix and match races, to keep the "Chen" name, the male must own this name. If a female "Chen" marries a male of another race, her kids would take on the name of the father. The "Chen" would be lost.
So Mr Louie Chen above, might have a different-raced mother, but definitely a Chinese father.
ps: If it's "Lee" it might be different.. cuz I've seen Caucasians named LEE and it amuses the heck out of me
The names pass down, but all that is required in the (simplistic) system you describe is that there is a male child in each generation. My kids have my surname as that is the custom in Japan. If one of them has kids with a Japanese person in such a way that the name is passed (usually through culturally-mandated means such as a marriage), their children will have my (western) surname but 75% of their DNA will be "Japanese" (scare quotes indicate scepticism of essentialist thinking, unless we want to start talking about haplotypes.) If one of those children is male and meets someone "pure Japanese" with whom they can have children and pass on the name, their progeny will have my name but only 6.125% of my DNA.
Let that run for a few generations, and you could have someone who has only a tiny percentage of the DNA that results in the features that are used to define race (a social convention) yet still have a "foreign" name. Over 1,300 years, I can easily imagine that names might not identify one-to-one with epicanthic folds (from my good lady wife) or pasty white skin (from me).
A Chinese name does not necessarily imply a "Chinese-looking" person.
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Geesh the thread is supposed to be poking fun and you guys managed to turn it into a serious thing... sigh.
Yes I'm racist. Most Chinese people are. You guys can be offended or not, we don't care. If a person is a cripple we call him a cripple, not "physically challenged" (in whatever ways he is "challenged").
Yes I'm racist. Most Chinese people are. You guys can be offended or not, we don't care. If a person is a cripple we call him a cripple, not "physically challenged" (in whatever ways he is "challenged").
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Welcome to the interwebs. :/
Ian Phillips
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I used to work with a chinese guy. Well, half chinese and half Irish.
From Jamaica.
We never really understood each other
From Jamaica.
We never really understood each other
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The first Chinese guy I've seen with such a dark skin.
And I myself am a Chinese person, so if I'm racist, it's ok
It`s possible he was adopted by kind Chinese parents\society and given the name. Quite possible today let alone in the future. I know the Chinese don`t have much to do with Blacks in their society, but it`s not impossible.
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Now THIS is the most plausible explanation I've seen in this thread.
But again I stress this thread was started in the spirit of FUN, not criticism.
To get sensitive people like you worked up
No, seriously though, it was supposed to be poking fun... you just got all too serious.
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Well if you look at the USA today there are alot of people with mixed backgrounds and as a result sirnames and thats just what can happen within the last 238 years.
ED is set 1286 years in the future and in my opinion the notion of Race and Nationality is a very different thing.
Earth of old and its nations/races have been replaced by the nations and peoples of the bubble.
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To get sensitive people like you worked up
No, seriously though, it was supposed to be poking fun... you just got all too serious.
Poking fun at what? You don't seem to realize a couple things:
1. The premise of your post (black people having Chinese names is "false") - is demonstrably without merit. So no fun there, right?
2. The reason I posted is not because of the inherent racism - my wife is Chinese for crying out loud, I'm well aware of the pervading attitudes - it's that you actually posted it here. Like I said, you gotta be a supreme moron to think this kind of post is in any way going to be perceived as fun, trolling, or anything like that. You'll be lucky not to get banned. Yes, that's right, I'm calling you out for being a moron, and the fact you try to first defend the post as having merit, then later claim it was all in good fun, only reinforces your failure.
It's 3303, China is probably just a sidenote in history books and a distant memory. New cultures have emerged, old traditions died, and chances are a good portion of all the Chens in the galaxy were named for totally different reasons than why people are named Chen today. Heck, I could go to the prefecture right now and ask to change both my name and surname to Chen.
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