(OCC) Ideas about the Roleplays

Okay so something is kinda been bothering me a bit about the roleplay threads. We have quite a few threads going telling individual stories and most of them are great. I'm really enjoying them. But there is a problem with this section of the forums and one I fear can't be worked around because of the structure of Elite Dangerous itself.

Here's the deal. The Thargoid & Fer de Lance roleplay is what I originally thought the roleplay forums would be. A place where CMDRs would interact with each other yet also tell their own stories all at the same time. Problem is... well Elite. It's too damn big. Players are so scattered in the billions of stars, hell in the thousands of stars in just the bubble, that interacting with each other at one location is nearly impossible long term. Which is a big reason the Thargoid & Fer de Lance also slowed to a crawl.

We need a different approach at trying to interact in these tails while still having the freedom of the game and it's vase number of stars to do our own thing.

So I kinda came up with an idea. Since we already have these great individual treks going on at their own paces, I figure what we need is a "central hub" for all of us to meet in character and interact, continuing our own individual tails but also collaborate on certain jobs as like Futuristic Kung Fu and I just have for the whole Kamito plot line in both our threads.

This type of thing was really fun for me, especially the end of the "Kamito Arch" because it game my character a chance to grow and learn from the mistakes I made in that battle, something that had I continued myself wouldn't have happened until much later on in my roleplay. I feel more things like that could happen more often. The reason put central hub in quotes is because I think we might actually need several locations for this given how large the bubble is. Maybe one for every major power.

My idea would more or less be a place or places to gather so that we can do crossover events in our roleplays and maybe even be a place to build a joint story line like T&FdL. When things slow down there we all will still have our own roleplays to fall back on but we can still have a place to go to spice things up a bit.

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To use my only roleplay as an example: The Shattered Dreams limps into (for the sake of this point) Adams Market in the Eotienses System and sets down on the pad. The ship is too damaged to go any farther but at least she made it this far. I hurry to the Request Granted Bar (for lack of a better name. What can I say? I do my best writing when I'm drinking.) being sure I'm not followed by any of Delaine's hit men. I reach the bar hoping to see Mossfoot or Nostaw Alene hoping to they could at the very least hide me on board one of their ships until the Dreams was ready to fly again. Luckily Matt and Kyndi at the bar. I approach Matt completely out of breath as he starts to take a drink. I grab the drink from his had ad down the whole glass.

"Well hello to you too Momoka." He says as I signal for the bartender to send over another drink.

"Hey Matty, old buddy... Listen... I need a favor from you..."

I sit down and order my usual and explain the detail of the job.

(My part ends there. PMs go back and forth out of public eyes to keep things interesting. CMDR M. Lehman post the next part.)

"No way in hell princess." I tell the girl. Ain't no goddamn way I'm flying into Gable Enterprises with that many explosions on board.

"We'll do it" Kyndi interrupts completely ignoring what I just said.

"Kyndi..."

"Matt you owe be this favor from last time."

Of course she brings that up.

"What the hell makes you think we can even make it that deep into Delaine space?"

"I know a few guys that can give us safe passage."

"Wait? A few guys?"

"Jealous honey?"

This woman.

"I'm trying not to get us killed here."

"But that means you both are in?" Momo cuts in, downing what was that, her forth glass of vodka? This pink haired...

"I didn't says that."

"What you've gone all soft on us?" Kyndi adds in.

"Can't win here can I?"

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You get the point. (Btw I came up with all that on the fly) This is just one idea I had to maybe have a bit of fun both in game and on the forums that might work with the massive world that is Elite Dangerous.

Let me know what you think. If you guys and gals have any ideas on this or other things related to the roleplay threads feel free to post them here. Maybe we can use this thread to throw ideas around to see what we can come up with.
 
Poor Matt can't catch a break even on someone else's thread! :)

And what you're proposing is almost the exact thing that I have in the works with someone else here, except in novella chapters instead of a few paragraphs at a time. Not sure if we'll use seperate threads like I normally do, or go to a more traditional single, very long thread like others have done.
 
Poor Matt can't catch a break even on someone else's thread! :)

And what you're proposing is almost the exact thing that I have in the works with someone else here, except in novella chapters instead of a few paragraphs at a time. Not sure if we'll use seperate threads like I normally do, or go to a more traditional single, very long thread like others have done.

I'm pretty sure most of us could go the route of novella chapters quite easily. My own roleplay probably might be improved by doing so. If we can make it work it could probably increase traffic in these forums as well seeing that there are quite a few players that seem to have at least some interest in roleplaying.

And also yes Matt can't catch a break. It's more fun that way ;)
 
Hi Momoka

You're a wee bit late to the party :D

We realised this a long time ago, 8 months ago actually and we created a community driven RP hub.

www.eliteandreal.com

There you'll find pilot logs, stories, forum RP (location based), and more all in neat easy to read sections.

We welcome all roleplayers regardless of level. There's no RP police just like minded RP'ers sharing stories, organising RP events, meeting up in space, and generally contributing towards Elite Dangerous RP.

We also have a team speak server to circumvent the lack of global chat in the game as well as IRC Chat channels.

Come on in and join the party! We over have 175 members and growing.

 
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Hi Momoka

You're a wee bit late to the party :D

We realised this a long time ago, 8 months ago actually and we created a community driven RP hub.

www.eliteandreal.com

There you'll find pilot logs, stories, forum RP (location based), and more all in neat easy to read sections.

We welcome all roleplayers regardless of level. There's no RP police just like minded RP'ers sharing stories, organising RP events, meeting up in space, and generally contributing towards Elite Dangerous RP.

We also have a team speak server to circumvent the lack of global chat in the game as well as IRC Chat channels.

Come on in and join the party! We have 100 members and growing.

Yes, great forum (I have an account), BUT, like all the other attempts, it's almost deserted. What we need is MOAR PEOPLE, also having them not spread out, and contained in one thread. And, addressing Zach, it's important that the setting is fairly vague, and not supporting of any one group, like ROA, even if it is unintentional.
 
And, addressing Zach, it's important that the setting is fairly vague, and not supporting of any one group, like ROA, even if it is unintentional.

Wait, is ROA actually a faction/place? I made it up so as to not support any group. If its an existing faction/group/location that I didn't know about though I can totally change it. I just thought it was a catchy name.

EDIT: Well I'll be darned, they do exist. Sorry to any ROA members for inadvertently stealing your spiffy acronym. I shall adjust my rp attempt accordingly.

EDIT 2: The name has been changed to "Cobra", about as unaffiliated a cool cantina name as I could find.
 
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Wait, is ROA actually a faction/place? I made it up so as to not support any group. If its an existing faction/group/location that I didn't know about though I can totally change it. I just thought it was a catchy name.

EDIT: Well I'll be darned, they do exist. Sorry to any ROA members for inadvertently stealing your spiffy acronym. I shall adjust my rp attempt accordingly.

EDIT 2: The name has been changed to "Cobra", about as unaffiliated a cool cantina name as I could find.
Hey, no worries! And fast changing! And you'll notice you have a new customer...;)
 
Yes, great forum (I have an account), BUT, like all the other attempts, it's almost deserted. What we need is MOAR PEOPLE, also having them not spread out, and contained in one thread. And, addressing Zach, it's important that the setting is fairly vague, and not supporting of any one group, like ROA, even if it is unintentional.

I wouldn't say it's deserted. The RP community in ED is small. In the Hub there's players continuously updating pilots logs and stories and I know there's a group of regulars who RP in game often. As you say though we do need more people.

So come on folks :D

Not to discourage folks, but any attempt to start another hub is just going to dissect the already small Elite Dangerous RP community more.
 
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I wouldn't say it's deserted. The RP community in ED is small. In the Hub there's players continuously updating pilots logs and stories and I know there's a group of regulars who RP in game often. As you say though we do need more people.

So come on folks :D

Not to discourage folks, but any attempt to start another hub is just going to dissect the already small Elite Dangerous RP community more.

My idea wasn't to make a single location in the threads. I wasn't trying to step on anyones toes with my suggestion. I just figured those of us already with ongoing roleplays on these forums could have a thread here to collaborate. That way none of us would have to migrate from where we already established an audience.

I wasn't trying to dissect the community. I was trying to setup one of two locations in game as bases in the bubble so we still have the freedom to do our own thing.

Btw I'm already a member on eliteandreal
 
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Greetings Commander Momoka, your proposal is of course the logical step forward for our RP community, it makes perfect sense to encourage others to participate together in a RP world, such as Elite Dangerous. Have seen so many people come to this forum with enthusiam and drive only for them to find there is nothing much for them to do other than write commander type logs and then they shortly leave on their own accord, or are persuaded to join an outside RP hub, "stares in the direction of a certain CMDR" and so this forum constantly languishes in semi-darkness.

A few months ago I too tried to start up a RP project on this forum to encourage people to work together in their RP'ing (https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=135734), it would have given people a chance to collaberate on a central theme that they could then shape themselves according to their RP character and also offer them the opportunity to have their work broadcasted to a wider audiance outside of this forum. I had provided 5 example avatars for people to use like the one I am using in the hope this form of posting would take off and give people an added sense of writing [IC]. Sadly no one was interested and the project was abandoned.

I have'nt given up on RP or on this forum, this is home for me. I look forward with anticipation to seeing your suggestions take off in a big way!

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My idea wasn't to make a single location in the threads. I wasn't trying to step on anyones toes with my suggestion. I just figured those of us already with ongoing roleplays on these forums could have a thread here to collaborate. That way none of us would have to migrate from where we already established an audience.

I wasn't trying to dissect the community. I was trying to setup one of two locations in game as bases in the bubble so we still have the freedom to do our own thing.

Btw I'm already a member on eliteandreal

Hey Momoka

Sorry, I wasn't trying to make you feel bad or suggest you were trying to dissect the community. It was aimed at the general audience.

I have seen a few threads pop up saying, 'along the lines of' what we need is a central RP hub. I try to jump in quickly and point out we already have one, not because I want eliteandreal to dominate, but because I accept that not everyone knows about eliteandreal.com and they may go off and create something that's already in place thus making it difficult for either to succeed.

I confess, I misread your post, and didn't realise you meant 'central hub' as an in-game location. My bad. Sorry about that!

What you suggest is something we have tried to do over at eliteandreal.com In theory it's a great concept, and I for one would base myself close to any such system. We chose a system central to all factions and quiet. What we found though is whilst it worked well at the start, giving players a place to easily meet up and form IC patrols etc, Elite Dangerous has a funny habit of pulling players in all sorts of directions to complete missions, trade etc and before we knew it we were all scattered all over the place again. Give it your best shot though. Just because we didn't succeed doesn't mean you cant. Personally though, I think the galaxy is too vast and the RP community too small for it to succeed. Particularly if you aim to have more than one hub.


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Greetings Commander Momoka, your proposal is of course the logical step forward for our RP community, it makes perfect sense to encourage others to participate together in a RP world, such as Elite Dangerous. Have seen so many people come to this forum with enthusiam and drive only for them to find there is nothing much for them to do other than write commander type logs and then they shortly leave on their own accord, or are persuaded to join an outside RP hub, "stares in the direction of a certain CMDR" and so this forum constantly languishes in semi-darkness.

Hello again Malandark. I know, I know, you don't like the concept of external unofficial RP platforms because you feel they harm the official ones. You made that clear in a previous post.

I think I said this back in said post that the goal of eliteandreal.com is to circumvent the shambolic cluster bomb format that is this RP forum. To give RP'ers a feature rich, structured, dedicated RP platform where they can share stories, logs, events, meetups and generally just hang out. I think I also said that unless Frontier do something similar here (they've confirmed they won't), this forum will never succeed as many (including me) would like it to. A wall of random posts about many different topics both IC and OOC is, as I say, is an impossible to navigate cluster bomb. (Note: I would substitute bomb for another word but I'll only earn an infraction :p)

Having been part of many RP communities over the, god, 20 years I've been playing MMO's, when all that's existed officially is a single 'free for all' IC/OOC unstructured board (usually stuck somewhere at the bottom) dedicated to RP that gets next to no love from the devs, an unofficial hub has always been central to the RP community. I cite this one (http://swtor-rp.com/) as an example with over 8K members. It's without a doubt theeee place to be if you are at all interested in RP in SWTOR.

Like you, I see the multitude of people who come here with ideas, enthusiasm, make a few posts and drift away when they realise their posts and logs get few or no comments before being sunk to the depths of this single cluster bomb forum never to be read again. Dedicated hubs get round this problem providing a much needed 'structured' platform. Want to post a log? Great, post it in the logs section. Want to read other pilot logs? They're over there in the log section. Want to do that here? Pfft Good luck!

Now as RP'ers we all share the same unique problem in this game. 1. The RP community is tiny. 2. The game is vast, and antisocial in nature, and 3. The official RP forums are not fit for purpose, and that is the reason you'll see me & the other E&R mods here promoting eliteandreal.com. Not to hurt the RP community, but to help it.

Finally, to quote a certain CMDR. "It makes perfect sense to encourage others to participate together in a RP world, such as Elite Dangerous." I give you eliteandreal.com
 
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You make a lot of sense and I do agree with all of your observations regarding the state of this *cough* official Lore and Roleplay Forum that is truly a mess. I'm not going to bash FD about this, it's their choice to either look after it and encourage it's further development or, abandon it. I sometimes *wish* FD would just close this forum down and post a link redirecting everyone to your RP Hub, least then everyone would be centralized in one place, but I cant see that ever happening. It's so frustrating to personally watch new cmdr's arrive here with great ideas and story's knowing most will give up due to what they think is lack of interest on the part of the RP community that they believe is here!

-Malandark-
 
One thing that might help a lot is a RP player faction...

My first initial thought when I read this was that it could never work as there are so few RP players to make any difference in the emptyness of Elite Dangerous and besides, what cause is there for us to align ourselves with?. However... and this all depends on a LOT of *if's* and *maybe's* with a lot of wishful thinking and speculation all thrown into the one mix....

I have a hunch from this thread https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=220273&p=3387767#post3387767 that I believe Drew Wagar is soon to announce something of importance concerning the return of Lady Kahina Tijani Loren (former Empire Senator) and most likely the “Children of Raxxla”. If this is the case, then we have the early beginings of a cause we might choose to support by which we can all collaberate together on. *Wishful Thinking* If this is indeed a prelude of the return of Salomé it is quite concievable that a kind of player faction 'could' (and I use this very lightly) arise from this in one form or another (please FD let this happen).

Perhaps, after we have heard more from Lady Kahina Tijani Loren and what she has in mind, we could decide to align ourselves with Salomé perhaps under the banner of “Children of Raxxla” then just maybe, we could indeed have our player faction of sorts. It is not beyond the caperbilities of the Devs to incorperate her into Powerplay with emphasis on player involvment.

Like I said, it's all pure speculation on my part, but an interesting one never-the-less!
 
My first initial thought when I read this was that it could never work as there are so few RP players to make any difference in the emptyness of Elite Dangerous and besides, what cause is there for us to align ourselves with?. However... and this all depends on a LOT of *if's* and *maybe's* with a lot of wishful thinking and speculation all thrown into the one mix....

I have a hunch from this thread https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=220273&p=3387767#post3387767 that I believe Drew Wagar is soon to announce something of importance concerning the return of Lady Kahina Tijani Loren (former Empire Senator) and most likely the “Children of Raxxla”. If this is the case, then we have the early beginings of a cause we might choose to support by which we can all collaberate together on. *Wishful Thinking* If this is indeed a prelude of the return of Salomé it is quite concievable that a kind of player faction 'could' (and I use this very lightly) arise from this in one form or another (please FD let this happen).

Perhaps, after we have heard more from Lady Kahina Tijani Loren and what she has in mind, we could decide to align ourselves with Salomé perhaps under the banner of “Children of Raxxla” then just maybe, we could indeed have our player faction of sorts. It is not beyond the caperbilities of the Devs to incorperate her into Powerplay with emphasis on player involvment.

Like I said, it's all pure speculation on my part, but an interesting one never-the-less!
Hmm... Any CMDRs that may have been fooling around or other wise being a general nuisance on that thread having similar usernames is pure coincidence!
 
I am working on something, but can't reveal more at this time. I'm interested in involving Rp too, so will join Eliteandreal shortly.

*Edit - Joined up and a 'hello' posted! :)

For reference, there are three minor factions which have come into existence following the characters from my book. The Children of Raxxla - who have already been mentioned, the Phoenix group and Loren's Legion who operate out of the Prism system itself. I think they're respective organisers would be very appreciative of role-players who would like to join their activities.

I'm trying to support them as much as a I can, because I feel this type of 'emerging content' is precisely what ED needs. If you'd like to see what they've done and the stories behind their activities, could I humble suggest my consolidation of the ER fan-fic > http://www.drewwagar.com/books/elitereclamation/elite-reclamation-fan-fiction/

Best wishes all.
Cheers,

Drew.
 
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