Oceania Animal Pack

Spartan_Squat

Spartan_Squat
This is one of my top choices for remaining continents along with South America. Oceania is not just an Australia 2.0. What really lacks this game is animals from Oceania (I count Australia, New Zealand, Tasmania and Island around)
I was surprised the Platypus will appear in the wetland dlc and platypus was in my candidates for an Oceania Pack. Now things changes
  • Echidna (Long snout or short one)
  • Tree Kangaroo
  • Tasmanian Devil (This could fit well in an Endagered Species Pack)
  • Emu
  • Kiwi
  • Goanna
  • Wombat
  • Tuatara for Terrarium
 

Kephear

K
Agreed- an Oceania pack is my most desired pack along with a bird focused pack.
Oceania for me could be well represented in game with species from New Guinea, New Zealand & Australia since they are the 3 largest land masses in the region.

Given the number of Australian animals already present in the game, I think that if they skewed the species to lean heavily outside of Australia, it would result in a better balanced spread of species representing Oceania as a whole in game, which is my preference.

My 'safe/popular' picks from those included in the meta list at this stage, would be along the lines of:
New Guinea-
Crowned Pigeon
Goodfellow's or Matschie’s Tree Kangaroo
Long or Short-beaked echidna

New Zealand-
Kiwi
Kakapo
Takahē
Tuatara (exhibit animal)

Australia-
Tasmanian Devil

All species that have community support behind them looking at their ranking/inclusion in the meta list & 4 of which would also help appease those of us who desperately want more birds & of a greater variety included in the game, without the need for adding flying mechanics.

The above animals would give a spread of:
2x unique NG species + 2 shared species
4x unique NZ species
6x unique Aussie species + 2 shared species

Otherwise they could drop the Tasmanian Devil (but include it in another pack as it seems to be a very requested/desired animal looking at its current #4 spot on meta list!) & replace it with another PNG species like the New Guinea Pademelon or better yet the Black-spotted Cuscus for a very well balanced split:
3x unique PNG species + 2 shared species
4x unique NZ species
5x unique Australian species + 2 shared species
 
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Maccasaurus

M
Kephear said:
Agreed- an Oceania pack is my most desired pack along with a bird focused pack.
Oceania for me could be well represented in game with species from New Guinea, New Zealand & Australia since they are the 3 largest land masses in the region.

Given the number of Australian animals already present in the game, I think that if they skewed the species to lean heavily outside of Australia, it would result in a better balanced spread of species representing Oceania as a whole in game, which is my preference.

My 'safe/popular' picks from those included in the meta list at this stage, would be along the lines of:
New Guinea-
Crowned Pigeon
Goodfellow's or Matschie’s Tree Kangaroo
Long or Short-beaked echidna

New Zealand-
Kiwi
Kakapo
Takahē
Tuatara (exhibit animal)

Australia-
Tasmanian Devil

All species that have community support behind them looking at their ranking/inclusion in the meta list & 4 of which would also help appease those of us who desperately want more birds & of a greater variety included in the game, without the need for adding flying mechanics.

The above animals would give a spread of:
2x unique NG species + 2 shared species
4x unique NZ species
6x unique Aussie species + 2 shared species

Otherwise they could drop the Tasmanian Devil (but include it in another pack as it seems to be a very requested/desired animal looking at its current #4 spot on meta list!) & replace it with another PNG species like the New Guinea Pademelon or better yet the Black-spotted Cuscus for a very well balanced split:
3x unique PNG species + 2 shared species
4x unique NZ species
5x unique Australian species + 2 shared species
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I love the outside thinking and would be great to see this pack if others can be included in other packs. I doubt an Oceanic pack would miss out on including an Emu or Wombat though. Or even another wallaby species. The hard thing with NZ species is their limited availability outside of NZ. I would prefer species that could represent both. Short-beaked echidna (Aus and PNG) little penguin (Aus and NZ) agile wallaby (Aus and PNG) so my suggestion is as follows.
Tasmanian Devil
Goodfellows Tree Kangaroo
Common Wombat
Emu
Short Beaked Echidna
Little Penguin
Agile Wallaby
Tuatara (exhibit)
 

NZFanatic

NZFanatic
Kephear said:
Kakapo
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Unfortunately, no.

Kakapo don't exist in zoos. Not just because they're rare, but because the Department of Conservation has decreed that it would be detrimental to their species survival plan to keep them in captivity. It is literally illegal to keep kakapo in zoos even in New Zealand (and even if it wasn't, they would certainly never be featured in an international collection).

While I like the idea of including more of New Zealand in such a pack, I really don't see it happening. An Oceania Animal Pack would certainly highlight Australia again.

Tasmanian devil is a given.
Wombat is a given.
Tree kangaroo is a given.
Emu is a given.

Everything else is up in the air, but I think the kiwi is a safe bet for diversity, which leaves three slots.

Normally I'd include the little blue penguin, as it's native to both New Zealand and Australia, giving it significant versatility, but I'm not too sure how popular a third penguin would be as a choice (that said it would be a pretty easy one for the devs to whip up, and given that they've given us our three hundredth crocodilian in the Wetlands Pack it probably doesn't matter).

Otherwise, it would probably be the Bennett's wallaby (not the most popular choice but the most variable, and the most common species in captivity).

For the exhibit animal, I would hope for the tuatara, but to be honest the frilled lizard seems pretty likely given how popular it was around the time of the Australia Pack, or something more random like the Fiji banded iguana.
 

VHAGAR

VHAGAR
Spartan_Squat said:
Esta é uma das minhas principais escolhas para os restantes continentes, juntamente com a América do Sul. A Oceania não é apenas uma Austrália 2.0. O que realmente falta nesse jogo são os animais da Oceania (conto Austrália, Nova Zelândia, Tasmânia e Ilha ao redor)
Fiquei surpreso que o ornitorrinco aparecerá no dlc do pantanal e o ornitorrinco estava entre meus candidatos a um pacote da Oceania. Agora as coisas mudam
  • Echidna (focinho longo ou curto)
  • Canguru Arborícola
  • Diabo da Tasmânia (Isso pode se encaixar bem em um Pacote de Espécies Ameaçadas)
  • Ema
  • kiwi
  • Goanna
  • Wombat
  • Tuatara para terrário
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I loved your wish list, they are wonderful animals, you know sometimes I wonder if frontier animal modelers keep seeing this forum.
 

jcp011c

jcp011c
Oceania is lacking in animals enough that a regional themed animal pack would be welcome. If they want to stick to biomes for everything but Oceania that's fine, but it's needed.

For me the ideal would be:

Wombat - any of the three. I've mainly been writing in the Common Wombat, but from a conservation standpoint, the other two are better choices. I know this wouldn't be the star of the pack, but for me, it would be. There's a lot of animals I really want to see, but a Wombat is the last "must have" animal for me.

Emu - probably the most iconic species from Oceania missing at this point. It's very common in zoos as well so it would give the region a more feel of completeness.

Tasmanian Devil -probably the star of the pack but I could see it being the Emu instead.

Grey Kangaroo - another Kangaroo would add variety. We got two penguins and two otters in two separate DLC, so why not kangaroos with their unique rigs.

Goodfellow's Tree Kangaroo - Each DLC should try to add some type of animal that's very different, rig-wise, from other animals already in the game. I'd think a Tree Kangaroo would serve that purpose.

Little Blue Penguin - A third penguin but one that's very visually distinctive from either species already in the game, and it would give New Zealand some representation.

Kiwi - any of the species. Three birds and none of them capable of flying! But another New Zealand animal

Tuatara - Exhibit animal and a third New Zealand offering, which is much better than just throwing in one NZ species and saying that's in not Australia because of one species. A 3/5 split sounds fair here.
 

avietar

avietar
Hmm, my new Oceania dlc would be:

  • wombat
  • tasmanian devil
  • tree kangaroo
  • kiwi
  • wallaby
  • emu* / little blue penguin**
  • grey kangaroo / wallaroo / coconut crab**
  • tuatara

*The emu is a good candidate for a deserts DLC too.
**I would love a grey kangaroo or wallaroo, but a giant coconut crab would be super unique and interesting. It is found in a wide range, including some Oceanian islands . I could also see myself replacing the little blue penguin with a coconut crab, because this pack already has a small bird with the kiwi.
 
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arafan

A
To be honest, I don't see an Oceania DLC coming. The last region-based pack will probably be a general Asia pack. But if we'd get one, I would really like these species:
  • Tree Kangaroo
  • Short-beaked echidna
  • Emu
  • Greater bilby (even though it isn't widely kept outside of Australia, it has a great conservation history)
  • Tasmanian devil
  • Black swan (seems like they are native to New Zeland too, even tough it's a bit controversial)
  • North Island brown kiwi
  • Tuatara

And I still am missing some species, a wallaby would be nice, a cuscus, a quoll and a wombat too, but sadly the numbers are limited.
 

biggest_dreamer

biggest_dreamer
I think that Oceania (and South America) could still stand to have region-based animal packs. I'll throw my list out there, because why not:
  • Bennet's wallaby
  • Emu
  • Matschie's tree kangaroo (Goodfellow's is fine too, not my preference but I won't gripe)
  • Tasmanian devil
  • Common wombat (honestly have no personal attachment to the last two but they're obvious inclusions)
  • North island brown kiwi
  • Numbat (Absolute wildcard choice, I know. As far as I can tell they don't exist outside of Australia, period. But I really like them, and none of the remaining marsupials kept outside of Australia are particularly head-turning, so why not just go for another local-only species? Alternatives: short-beaked echidna or black swan would be welcome inclusions. Wouldn't say no to a quoll or a monitor. This slot was where I'd previously had the platypus so clearly I haven't properly reprioritized yet.)
  • Tuatara
If we don't specifically revisit Australia, as long as we can get those first three in biome packs I'll be satisfied.
 

FoxyDee

FoxyDee
I would like these Oceanian species:

Tasmanian Devil
Emu
Wombat
Kiwi
Bennet’s Wallaby
Tree Kangaroo
Echidna/Tiger Quoll
 

ElectricMonk

ElectricMonk
biggest_dreamer said:
Numbat (Absolute wildcard choice, I know. As far as I can tell they don't exist outside of Australia, period. But I really like them, and none of the remaining marsupials kept outside of Australia are particularly head-turning, so why not just go for another local-only species? Alternatives: short-beaked echidna or black swan would be welcome inclusions. Wouldn't say no to a quoll or a monitor. This slot was where I'd previously had the platypus so clearly I haven't properly reprioritized yet.)
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I love Numbats, but they’re not just only in Australia zoos, they’re only in one zoo in Australia (Perth) as far as I know. Nevertheless,…
 

DarthQuell

DarthQuell
Oceania. This is gonna be tough, too many choices for me, especially since the platypus was announced:
  1. Tasmanian devil (⭐) - I think we can all agree that this guy will be the star. Endangered, ugly-cute, popular everywhere
  2. Emu (⭐) - the 2nd star. Now, I've never seen one, ever, but I'm told they're common, so yeah, this is also a must
  3. Common wombat - I've seen these guys and I love them. Bigger than I thought, actually
  4. Tree kangaroo (any) - in the end, whatever species we get will behave the same
  5. Echidna (any) - in the end, whatever species we get will behave the same
  6. Kiwi - a nocturnal, flightless bird we all know and love. These are worth it, we should get them
  7. Quokka - the happy marsupial
  8. Little blue penguin - Australia & NZ
  9. Here's my dilemma. I want the 3 following species, but I can only get 1. All 3 are perfect, yet at the same time getting only 1 feels incomplete:
    1. Tuatara - our NZ representative
    2. Thorny devil - iconic to the deserts
    3. Frilled lizard - the dilophosaurus inspiration
 

Kephear

K
Maccasaurus said:
I love the outside thinking and would be great to see this pack if others can be included in other packs. I doubt an Oceanic pack would miss out on including an Emu or Wombat though. Or even another wallaby species. The hard thing with NZ species is their limited availability outside of NZ. I would prefer species that could represent both. Short-beaked echidna (Aus and PNG) little penguin (Aus and NZ) agile wallaby (Aus and PNG) so my suggestion is as follows.
Tasmanian Devil
Goodfellows Tree Kangaroo
Common Wombat
Emu
Short Beaked Echidna
Little Penguin
Agile Wallaby
Tuatara (exhibit)
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I don't see limited representation outside of country of Origin as an issue anymore given species like Platypus are severely limited outside Australia- there are many more Kiwi & hundreds more Kea in zoos outside NZ than there are Platypus from what I understand.

IMO, Australia already has its most iconic animals represented in game, so I'd rather the rest of Oceania got some representation with 2 to 3 each of NG & NZ most iconic animals being present, which would at least give Oceania as a collective region representation rather than just Australia specifically... I mean it is called "Oceania" in game, not "Australia".
 

Kephear

K
NZFanatic said:
Unfortunately, no.

Kakapo don't exist in zoos. Not just because they're rare, but because the Department of Conservation has decreed that it would be detrimental to their species survival plan to keep them in captivity. It is literally illegal to keep kakapo in zoos even in New Zealand (and even if it wasn't, they would certainly never be featured in an international collection).

While I like the idea of including more of New Zealand in such a pack, I really don't see it happening. An Oceania Animal Pack would certainly highlight Australia again.

Tasmanian devil is a given.
Wombat is a given.
Tree kangaroo is a given.
Emu is a given.

Everything else is up in the air, but I think the kiwi is a safe bet for diversity, which leaves three slots.

Normally I'd include the little blue penguin, as it's native to both New Zealand and Australia, giving it significant versatility, but I'm not too sure how popular a third penguin would be as a choice (that said it would be a pretty easy one for the devs to whip up, and given that they've given us our three hundredth crocodilian in the Wetlands Pack it probably doesn't matter).

Otherwise, it would probably be the Bennett's wallaby (not the most popular choice but the most variable, and the most common species in captivity).

For the exhibit animal, I would hope for the tuatara, but to be honest the frilled lizard seems pretty likely given how popular it was around the time of the Australia Pack, or something more random like the Fiji banded iguana.
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If you read my post, I say specifically my list is based off of the meta list, thus not based off of what is most likely due to what is kept in zoos IRL.
As an aside, I'm not sure being popular with or present in real life zoos is entirely necessary anymore given I understand only a single zoo/ safari park keeps platypus outside Australia.

99% true that Kakapo aren't kept in zoos. Auckland Zoo has at least once held & displayed Sirocco- that is where I saw him (for those outside of NZ, Sirocco is a hand reared male Kakapo who is the Kakapo ambassador), he was actually on public display a number of times from 2005 to 2009 I think it was, for fund-raising purposes- although granted it was usually at sanctuaries such as Zealandia or Orokonui rather than at zoos (aside from Auckland). Then there are the occasional birds under going treatment that have be viewed at Wellington Zoo's hospital. Where Kakapo could shine is Planet Zoo's whole conservation theme... In fact most of NZ species would shine in that respect tbh.
 
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Kephear

K
NZFanatic said:
Sirocco was not a zoo animal.

Also, the platypus being kept in captivity even in a single zoo is still more than the kakapo.
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Sirocco is a display animal. He has been displayed at a zoo & he is used for public display nationally- be it at sanctuaries (where he is kept in artificial confinement which automatically makes him a zoological display with-in said sanctuary) or zoos- people still pay to go look at him.
It doesn't matter how long he is displayed for or where, the fact is there has been at least one Kakapo displayed at a zoo & due to his status & age/life expectancy, he likely will do so again in the future.

When the platypus die, is PZ suddenly supposed to remove them from the game... When Sirocco is back on display at a zoo or eco sanctuary/park again- be it next week, month or year, does that mean suddenly Kakapo instantly become a viable animal again... or is it just for the select time frame he spends on display again :/

Also, what does it matter how likely or not the odds are of Kakapo being added to the game! These lists are supposed to be fun & based on what we would like to see.

As far as I'm aware, PZ reps have only definitively stated that animals are picked based on what people expect & want to see in the game, along with those which have particular significance in conservation (an argument can be made that Kakapo meet these requirements). I do not recall them explicitly stating that only animals currently living in at least one zoo at the specific time frame the DLC is being made will be considered for inclusion in game, but if they have, please do share.
 

Kephear

K
darthquell said:
  1. Tasmanian devil (⭐) - I think we can all agree that this guy will be the star. Endangered, ugly-cute, popular everywhere
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I was taken by surprise at just how popular Tasmanian devils seem to be on here- they were sitting pretty at 4th on the meta list when I used it to make my list for this thread.
 

DarthQuell

DarthQuell
Kephear said:
I was taken by surprise at just how popular Tasmanian devils seem to be on here- they were sitting pretty at 4th on the meta list when I used it to make my list for this thread.
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Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they move up a couple slots, eventually becoming 1st; of course, this is assuming we get the p-horse and/or a true leopard
 
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