Oculus Rift and glasses and Widmo.

[Brandon31]

Just wanted to share my experience with trying to get good visuals in the Rift despite having poor eyesight. I tried the HMD first with my glasses and can honestly say it was a complete waste of time, and a very uncomfortable encounter. Despite the glasses being well within the required measurements it never felt right at all, in addition I think the risk of marking the headsets lenses with the glasses is high. The amount of times you need to take the headset on/off it is just an accident waiting to happen. So next up I got myself sorted out with some daily contact lenses to use just in the Rift. Yes I was now able to see well, no extra pressure from the frame of the glasses, in fact overall I would say for someone who wears contacts normally this is an excellent solution. However, as I do not wear contacts on a day to day basis, I was finding it just to much trouble to have to insert and remove them each time I wanted a fix of ED VR. So.. I felt I was nearly there but not quite - enter the WIDMO lenses.

I got my exact prescription and PD from opticians who did the contacts - then bit the bullet and ordered the WIDMO lenses which come pre mounted in a frame ready to fit into the Rift headset. They come from Poland and the service was excellent (12 days from date of order to delivery). Fitting the lenses into the HMD was a two minute job. Once fitted the lenses are very stable. (In fact its a bit more of a struggle to fit the optional soft cover than it is to fit the lenses). The WIDMO lenses sit nicely inside the headset and actually provide some protection for the (so I am told) delicate VR lenses. With some trepidation I fired up the Rift jumped into my Viper and oh boy - a big smile came over my face. For me the WIDMO lenses have made the Oculus Rift usable as a glasses wearer, and I can only say thank you to them for this, and hope that this post gives them a shout out on this forum for other Rift users in my position visually.

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

Just wanted to share my experience with trying to get good visuals in the Rift despite having poor eyesight. I tried the HMD first with my glasses and can honestly say it was a complete waste of time, and a very uncomfortable encounter. Despite the glasses being well within the required measurements it never felt right at all, in addition I think the risk of marking the headsets lenses with the glasses is high. The amount of times you need to take the headset on/off it is just an accident waiting to happen. So next up I got myself sorted out with some daily contact lenses to use just in the Rift. Yes I was now able to see well, no extra pressure from the frame of the glasses, in fact overall I would say for someone who wears contacts normally this is an excellent solution. However, as I do not wear contacts on a day to day basis, I was finding it just to much trouble to have to insert and remove them each time I wanted a fix of ED VR. So.. I felt I was nearly there but not quite - enter the WIDMO lenses.

I got my exact prescription and PD from opticians who did the contacts - then bit the bullet and ordered the WIDMO lenses which come pre mounted in a frame ready to fit into the Rift headset. They come from Poland and the service was excellent (12 days from date of order to delivery). Fitting the lenses into the HMD was a two minute job. Once fitted the lenses are very stable. (In fact its a bit more of a struggle to fit the optional soft cover than it is to fit the lenses). The WIDMO lenses sit nicely inside the headset and actually provide some protection for the (so I am told) delicate VR lenses. With some trepidation I fired up the Rift jumped into my Viper and oh boy - a big smile came over my face. For me the WIDMO lenses have made the Oculus Rift usable as a glasses wearer, and I can only say thank you to them for this, and hope that this post gives them a shout out on this forum for other Rift users in my position visually.

I had never heard of Widmo lenses. I will probably use these people: https://vr-lens-lab.com

 

[Brandon31]

I had never heard of Widmo lenses. I will probably use these people: https://vr-lens-lab.com

https://widmovr.com/ Yes I did a lot of research and there were one or two reasons why I decided to go WIDMO, but would be very interested in how you fare with the VR Labs offering [yesnod].

 

[Temmy]

Just wanted to share my experience with trying to get good visuals in the Rift despite having poor eyesight. I tried the HMD first with my glasses and can honestly say it was a complete waste of time, and a very uncomfortable encounter. Despite the glasses being well within the required measurements it never felt right at all, in addition I think the risk of marking the headsets lenses with the glasses is high. The amount of times you need to take the headset on/off it is just an accident waiting to happen. So next up I got myself sorted out with some daily contact lenses to use just in the Rift. Yes I was now able to see well, no extra pressure from the frame of the glasses, in fact overall I would say for someone who wears contacts normally this is an excellent solution. However, as I do not wear contacts on a day to day basis, I was finding it just to much trouble to have to insert and remove them each time I wanted a fix of ED VR. So.. I felt I was nearly there but not quite - enter the WIDMO lenses.

I got my exact prescription and PD from opticians who did the contacts - then bit the bullet and ordered the WIDMO lenses which come pre mounted in a frame ready to fit into the Rift headset. They come from Poland and the service was excellent (12 days from date of order to delivery). Fitting the lenses into the HMD was a two minute job. Once fitted the lenses are very stable. (In fact its a bit more of a struggle to fit the optional soft cover than it is to fit the lenses). The WIDMO lenses sit nicely inside the headset and actually provide some protection for the (so I am told) delicate VR lenses. With some trepidation I fired up the Rift jumped into my Viper and oh boy - a big smile came over my face. For me the WIDMO lenses have made the Oculus Rift usable as a glasses wearer, and I can only say thank you to them for this, and hope that this post gives them a shout out on this forum for other Rift users in my position visually.

Oh this is very interesting. I didn't know you could fit additional /change lenses in the headset. Might have to check this out!

 

[Brandon31]

Temmy - sure nothing beats the mark one eyeballs with 20/20 vision, but for us poor mortals with deficient sight the WIDMO lenses have enabled me to have an excellent pick up and put down experience with my Rift for which I am very grateful. The only downside is that obviously if there is another user of your rift the lenses would need to be removed for that person, its no big deal to do so but just adds another "thing to do" before getting into the game itself. But if like myself you are the sole user then it means your rift is tailored just for you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xvbsyvo7pg Gives you a good idea of what these lenses are about.

 

[mahoon]

Just wanted to share my experience with trying to get good visuals in the Rift despite having poor eyesight. I tried the HMD first with my glasses and can honestly say it was a complete waste of time, and a very uncomfortable encounter. Despite the glasses being well within the required measurements it never felt right at all, in addition I think the risk of marking the headsets lenses with the glasses is high. The amount of times you need to take the headset on/off it is just an accident waiting to happen. So next up I got myself sorted out with some daily contact lenses to use just in the Rift. Yes I was now able to see well, no extra pressure from the frame of the glasses, in fact overall I would say for someone who wears contacts normally this is an excellent solution. However, as I do not wear contacts on a day to day basis, I was finding it just to much trouble to have to insert and remove them each time I wanted a fix of ED VR. So.. I felt I was nearly there but not quite - enter the WIDMO lenses.

I got my exact prescription and PD from opticians who did the contacts - then bit the bullet and ordered the WIDMO lenses which come pre mounted in a frame ready to fit into the Rift headset. They come from Poland and the service was excellent (12 days from date of order to delivery). Fitting the lenses into the HMD was a two minute job. Once fitted the lenses are very stable. (In fact its a bit more of a struggle to fit the optional soft cover than it is to fit the lenses). The WIDMO lenses sit nicely inside the headset and actually provide some protection for the (so I am told) delicate VR lenses. With some trepidation I fired up the Rift jumped into my Viper and oh boy - a big smile came over my face. For me the WIDMO lenses have made the Oculus Rift usable as a glasses wearer, and I can only say thank you to them for this, and hope that this post gives them a shout out on this forum for other Rift users in my position visually.

I got me some WIDMO lenses a couple of months back - and I can't fault them. They are perfect for glasses wearers. I researched a bit and the problem I had with the vr-lenslabs ones were that , from what I read, it was like looking through your normal glasses round the wrong way. I might have misinterpreted that but their flimsiness put me off anyway. Still, I'm very very pleased with the WIDMO set and they've made putting the HMD on/off as simple as someone without glasses (you won't understand the significance of that unless you've tried wearing glasses in the HMD for any length of time).

 

[Brandon31]

I got me some WIDMO lenses a couple of months back - and I can't fault them. They are perfect for glasses wearers. I researched a bit and the problem I had with the vr-lenslabs ones were that , from what I read, it was like looking through your normal glasses round the wrong way. I might have misinterpreted that but their flimsiness put me off anyway. Still, I'm very very pleased with the WIDMO set and they've made putting the HMD on/off as simple as someone without glasses (you won't understand the significance of that unless you've tried wearing glasses in the HMD for any length of time).

I agree, I too did the research and concluded WIDMO was the way to go, I hope they continue to be able to sell this excellent product into the UK.

 

[Dedlite]

I bought a set of VR-lab lenses, which are excellent - is there much of a price difference between the two, I wonder?

 

[CMDR MAIN SEQUENCE]

I bought a set of VR-lab lenses, which are excellent - is there much of a price difference between the two, I wonder?

I've just worked out the pricing for myself:

vr lens lab: 68EUR + 7EUR shipping = 75EUR total (assuming no blue coat or premium lenses)
converted into GBP at todays rate: 66.23GBP

widmo: 65USD + 9USD shipping = 74USD total
converted into GBP at todays rate: 54.85GBP

Still weighing up the pros and cons of each.

 

[Jakester13]

Interesting.I have thought about this.

I have occasional-wear daily contact lenses as well as glasses.

With contacts, though, I wasn't comfortable, and ended up with a splitting headache after an hour or so. This might have been because I was new to the rift, and hadn't yet got the positioning and IPD settings right, too, but onto glasses:

My delicate-looking rimless glasses are only just narrow enough to fit, and it's a faff and a bit worrying putting on and removing the Rift. But visually they were more comfortable than the contacts.

Your post has prompted me to go and take a look at both VR-lab and WIDMO. Noone has mentioned pricing though. Are they comparable? Hah. Ninja'd on the prices... a tenner's difference...

o7

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

I've just worked out the pricing for myself:

vr lens lab: 68EUR + 7EUR shipping = 75EUR total (assuming no blue coat or premium lenses)
converted into GBP at todays rate: 66.23GBP

widmo: 65USD + 9USD shipping = 74USD total
converted into GBP at todays rate: 54.85GBP

Still weighing up the pros and cons of each.

For VR lens lab, you need the premium lenses otherwise you get distortion. I am thinking of going with Widmo now after seeing reviews of VR lens lab.

 

[MrWhippy]

Just to throw another option out there, https://vr-lens.eu/

Similar to lens lab, but doesn't have the issue of the lens being "backwards" causing distortion for some people.

 

[CMDR MAIN SEQUENCE]

Just to throw another option out there, https://vr-lens.eu/

Similar to lens lab, but doesn't have the issue of the lens being "backwards" causing distortion for some people.

Oh no now I have 3 options, I'm not good at making decisions at the best of times LOL. Prices updated:

vr lens lab: 68EUR + 7EUR shipping = 75EUR total (assuming no blue coat or premium lenses 20EUR)
converted into GBP at todays rate: 66.23GBP
converted into GBP at todays rate: 83.65GBP (including RABS premium lenses)

widmo: 65USD + 9USD shipping = 74USD total
converted into GBP at todays rate: 54.85GBP

vr lens EU: 69EUR + 4EUR shipping = 73EUR total
converted into GBP at todays rate: 64.28GBP

 

[Orvidius]

Huh, I hadn't seen these. I find it interesting that the lenses + adapter for the Rift have the shape of the Vive's lenses, and not that of the Rift. I guess if they're large enough, it may not matter, but it looks odd.

I have a set of lenses from VR Lens Lab, and they definitely have spherical distortion, similar to looking through the front of your glasses. I have the premium lenses, but my prescription is severe enough that it's just unavoidable with convex (to your eye) lenses. My guess is that the WIDMO lenses will do the same thing, but possibly to a different degree. If the lenses are concave to your eye (like glasses), they'll be convex toward the HMD's lenses, and risk scratching each other in the center. If they're flat on the HMD side of the lenses, they'll still risk it (unless the frame can ensure there's no contact possible), since the Rift's lenses are already slightly convex to your eye.

If these are designed with less spherical aberration, I might consider ordering them too. I just hate replacing something that I already have, that works, and I haven't had for very long... lol.

EDIT: Does anyone know if they're compatible with the custom face adapter from VR Covers?

 

[Brandon31]

Huh, I hadn't seen these. I find it interesting that the lenses + adapter for the Rift have the shape of the Vive's lenses, and not that of the Rift. I guess if they're large enough, it may not matter, but it looks odd.

I have a set of lenses from VR Lens Lab, and they definitely have spherical distortion, similar to looking through the front of your glasses. I have the premium lenses, but my prescription is severe enough that it's just unavoidable with convex (to your eye) lenses. My guess is that the WIDMO lenses will do the same thing, but possibly to a different degree. If the lenses are concave to your eye (like glasses), they'll be convex toward the HMD's lenses, and risk scratching each other in the center. If they're flat on the HMD side of the lenses, they'll still risk it (unless the frame can ensure there's no contact possible), since the Rift's lenses are already slightly convex to your eye.

If these are designed with less spherical aberration, I might consider ordering them too. I just hate replacing something that I already have, that works, and I haven't had for very long... lol.

EDIT: Does anyone know if they're compatible with the custom face adapter from VR Covers?

I am SPH R -2.00 SPH L -7.50 CYL R - -2.25 CYL L - 1.50 AX R 5.0 AX L 15 Using WIDMO Lenses for over 2 hours last night and I am not seeing distortion. Is it perfect as per 20/20 vision? Possibly no. But for me the lenses mean the difference between being able to enjoy VR and not being able to enjoy VR. I just have inspected in detail the fitting, spacing and rigidity of the WIDMO lenses in respect to the Rift lenses. Yes the lenses sit close to the Rift lenses but they do not touch, and the way they are held means without considerable pressure on them they are not liable to touch either. I think if normal care is taken towards the lenses it is unlikely the rift lenses will come into contact with the adaptive lenses. If anything the WIDMO lenses over the Rift lenses possibly make the Rift lenses less liable to accidental damage.

The only problem I now have is one which is common to headsets and that is condensation on the lenses when the rift is first used and cold. This can be overcome by simply ensuring the Rift is up to at or above room temp before using. I am not trying to influence any purchase decision here - only trying to pass on my own experience, being fully aware that peoples tolerance to certain issues can differ, I - for instance could simply not wear glasses in the Rift- I know many people can and do. In addition, because of my very poor eyesight I am probably fairly forgiving overall, being used to a generally poor experience visually in everyday life, some with less severe disability may be somewhat less generous in their opinion of these lenses. But for me overall - I am a happy bunny. [yesnod]

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

I am SPH R -2.00 SPH L -7.50 CYL R - -2.25 CYL L - 1.50 AX R 5.0 AX L 15 Using WIDMO Lenses for over 2 hours last night and I am not seeing distortion. Is it perfect as per 20/20 vision? Possibly no. But for me the lenses mean the difference between being able to enjoy VR and not being able to enjoy VR. I just have inspected in detail the fitting, spacing and rigidity of the WIDMO lenses in respect to the Rift lenses. Yes the lenses sit close to the Rift lenses but they do not touch, and the way they are held means without considerable pressure on them they are not liable to touch either. I think if normal care is taken towards the lenses it is unlikely the rift lenses will come into contact with the adaptive lenses. If anything the WIDMO lenses over the Rift lenses possibly make the Rift lenses less liable to accidental damage.

The only problem I now have is one which is common to headsets and that is condensation on the lenses when the rift is first used and cold. This can be overcome by simply ensuring the Rift is up to at or above room temp before using. I am not trying to influence any purchase decision here - only trying to pass on my own experience, being fully aware that peoples tolerance to certain issues can differ, I - for instance could simply not wear glasses in the Rift- I know many people can and do. In addition, because of my very poor eyesight I am probably fairly forgiving overall, being used to a generally poor experience visually in everyday life, some with less severe disability may be somewhat less generous in their opinion of these lenses. But for me overall - I am a happy bunny. [yesnod]

I have a fan that blows right in my face that stops the condensation issue.

 

[TinyPwny]

Gotta say the WIDMO solution looks really easy to mount or remove, less hassle than the VR-labs way. I'm normally the only user of my Rift headset but when giving demos and stuff, WIDMO looks more convenient.
Just wondering if WIDMO is compatible with 3rd part faceplates/foams like VR Covers?

 

[Brandon31]

Gotta say the WIDMO solution looks really easy to mount or remove, less hassle than the VR-labs way. I'm normally the only user of my Rift headset but when giving demos and stuff, WIDMO looks more convenient.
Just wondering if WIDMO is compatible with 3rd part faceplates/foams like VR Covers?

WIDMO do some covers which are expensive but nice. They are really helpful, so any questions about faceplates can be directed to them and they will help out. https://widmovr.com/contact/

 

[Orvidius]

Gotta say the WIDMO solution looks really easy to mount or remove, less hassle than the VR-labs way. I'm normally the only user of my Rift headset but when giving demos and stuff, WIDMO looks more convenient.
Just wondering if WIDMO is compatible with 3rd part faceplates/foams like VR Covers?

This is my thinking as well. Even though I already own the VR-Labs lenses, I'm probably going to order one of these as well. If no one has tried it with the VR-Covers faceplate, maybe I'll be the first to try?

 

[Brandon31]

This is my thinking as well. Even though I already own the VR-Labs lenses, I'm probably going to order one of these as well. If no one has tried it with the VR-Covers faceplate, maybe I'll be the first to try?

What does the VR-Covers faceplate actually do for you - not sure I understand what it is for?