Oculus Rift, buy or not?
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If you get a chance you should try a demo in a shop before you buy. There have been people who have given a very "meh" response after they've tried it.
My own personal opinion? When I've played Elite without the headset, on a little flat rectangle in front of me, it feels like a compromised, bolted-on view.
It's like looking at a map of the world. You know they've had to distort the image to represent things on a flat plane when you've already seen the world without that distortion.
My own personal opinion? When I've played Elite without the headset, on a little flat rectangle in front of me, it feels like a compromised, bolted-on view.
It's like looking at a map of the world. You know they've had to distort the image to represent things on a flat plane when you've already seen the world without that distortion.
i have multiple hdds and my oculus stuff is installed on my G drive, maybe you missed it during install but you can install it where u want.
It's quite a thing.
I've been playing Elite exclusively with my Rift since I got it several months ago - I have a GTX970 and a fairly old i7 (3820)/16GB RAM/Win7. Runs pretty much perfectly at 1.0x scaling w/SMAA and some tweaked options (most things on medium or high). I did have to put Elite on an SSD to minimise dropped frames/stalls (they matter way more in VR).
It's absolutely stunning. I've played 6+ hour sessions with no ill effects too. My DK1 by contrast would send me into a nauseated cold sweat in 10-15 minutes in the demos/games I tried.
The "god rays" I saw initially were greatly reduced by simply figuring out how to fit the headset to my face properly (through adjusting straps, angles etc.).
I say go for it if you've got the cash to spare - I doubt you'll be disappointed. I feel the headset has a lot of room to grow too - will work fine with your existing GPU, and will get better with an upgrade to a later generation - Elite looks vastly better with 2.0x supersampling (reduces shader aliasing for a start) but I hear not even SLI 1080s can handle it in VR... [knocked out]
The only thing I might be tempted to wait for if I was in the market is a (hypothetical) bundle deal with Oculus Touch when it comes out. The controllers are (IMO) one of the few things the Vive definitely has over the Rift - not that they matter specifically for Elite as-is.
I've been playing Elite exclusively with my Rift since I got it several months ago - I have a GTX970 and a fairly old i7 (3820)/16GB RAM/Win7. Runs pretty much perfectly at 1.0x scaling w/SMAA and some tweaked options (most things on medium or high). I did have to put Elite on an SSD to minimise dropped frames/stalls (they matter way more in VR).
It's absolutely stunning. I've played 6+ hour sessions with no ill effects too. My DK1 by contrast would send me into a nauseated cold sweat in 10-15 minutes in the demos/games I tried.
The "god rays" I saw initially were greatly reduced by simply figuring out how to fit the headset to my face properly (through adjusting straps, angles etc.).
I say go for it if you've got the cash to spare - I doubt you'll be disappointed. I feel the headset has a lot of room to grow too - will work fine with your existing GPU, and will get better with an upgrade to a later generation - Elite looks vastly better with 2.0x supersampling (reduces shader aliasing for a start) but I hear not even SLI 1080s can handle it in VR... [knocked out]
The only thing I might be tempted to wait for if I was in the market is a (hypothetical) bundle deal with Oculus Touch when it comes out. The controllers are (IMO) one of the few things the Vive definitely has over the Rift - not that they matter specifically for Elite as-is.
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I cannot play Elite with out my Rift, would not even consider it.
Generation 2 of the rift could be a way off just because any major improvements in the screens will need better PC's then any of us have at the mo.
So do i have trouble reading stuff on the rift.. No not wilth the cv1. details are nice edges fairly sharp. and even better if you can run it on 2x oversampling (with my 2x 980ti i cannot i get too much picture lag wobble.) so with your gfx card should Elite vr should be just fine. but wait for the next gen and we are all going to need upgrades to our pc's.
but beware once you start to Elite in the Rift there is NO going back.
Generation 2 of the rift could be a way off just because any major improvements in the screens will need better PC's then any of us have at the mo.
So do i have trouble reading stuff on the rift.. No not wilth the cv1. details are nice edges fairly sharp. and even better if you can run it on 2x oversampling (with my 2x 980ti i cannot i get too much picture lag wobble.) so with your gfx card should Elite vr should be just fine. but wait for the next gen and we are all going to need upgrades to our pc's.
but beware once you start to Elite in the Rift there is NO going back.
Indeed, it is like night and day.
Sli is still broken when it comes to VR, i have 2 980ti's and i get worse performance with sli on.
We wait for FD on that one.
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Of you don't have it already, get Voice Attack, it is essential when you are playing in VR. Welcome to the club.
Of you don't have it already, get Voice Attack, it is essential when you are playing in VR. Welcome to the club.
Hehehe thank you
, it wasn't an easy decision but it came down to one fact, which is that i have the money for it right now. Voice Attack is something i had in mind but thought it was optional not essential. well i guess one more thing is added to the list!
A minor point I'd like to address: The rift cable is indeed a proprietary HDMI+USB -> Proprietary Connector cable, but it is in fact also replaceable. Remove the padding assembly thing, and the cable pulls right out from its connector.
I haven't seen Oculus offering replacement cables though, but I'm sure as time goes on they may do
.Congrats. I don't think you'll regret it
. A good HOTAS setup will work wonders if you don't have one already, and I see you're looking into voice attack, so it sounds like you're all set
.Also, avoid the temptation to jump into EVE valkyrie with both feet like I did. It's not so much a mile wide and an inch deep as it is a foot wide and half an inch deep. Also I got sickening woozy VR sickness after my first go (its comfort level is "intense", i.e. "Will make your stomach wobbly until you're used to it). ED on the other hand is much much more comfortable and enjoyable with no hint of VR sickness of any kind for me
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Don't worry, it's not essential at all. I even have a VA license somewhere from before VR or ED was a released. Played way over 2000 hours of ED (all in VR) and never felt the need to install it.
Oh good to hear that
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A minor point I'd like to address: The rift cable is indeed a proprietary HDMI+USB -> Proprietary Connector cable, but it is in fact also replaceable. Remove the padding assembly thing, and the cable pulls right out from its connector.
I haven't seen Oculus offering replacement cables though, but I'm sure as time goes on they may do
Congrats. I don't think you'll regret it
A good HOTAS setup will work wonders if you don't have one already, and I see you're looking into voice attack, so it sounds like you're all set
Also, avoid the temptation to jump into EVE valkyrie with both feet like I did. It's not so much a mile wide and an inch deep as it is a foot wide and half an inch deep. Also I got sickening woozy VR sickness after my first go (its comfort level is "intense", i.e. "Will make your stomach wobbly until you're used to it). ED on the other hand is much much more comfortable and enjoyable with no hint of VR sickness of any kind for me
Oh thank you
As for Eve Valkyrie, well dammit i watched a demo from Eve online celebration and was looking forward to it but i guess i will follow your advice and start with ED first!
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Its a no brainer yes from me. For what you lose in resolution everything else more than makes up for it imo.
Ideally try and test obe 1st as nit everyine feels the same way. I have been rifting for almost 2.5 years now. I would not play ED any other way
Ideally try and test obe 1st as nit everyine feels the same way. I have been rifting for almost 2.5 years now. I would not play ED any other way
I'm not saying don't play it, I'm just saying that if you jump into it straight away you will make yourself queasy enough to have to lay down.
It's supposed to be a good multiplayer game. But since it (last time I played it at least) has *no* single player campaign, it held my attention until it gave me motion sickness, and I haven't been back to it since.
In the meantime MS just announced their VR headset with a price of 300$ for a basic version.
VR on a budget seems nearer than I thought.
VR on a budget seems nearer than I thought.
I have a rift and don't always use it when I play Elite (sometimes being able to watch something on another screen is handy when you're doing some boring task like trading or exploring).
But playing with VR is well worth it. It makes combat so much easier it feels like cheating. And when people talk about ships having large cockpits it's so much easier to see when you can actually look around. Everything is massively immersive. The only issue is with the galaxy/system maps which don't seem to work well; it's hard to line up the pointer to the view to select stars/planets.
But playing with VR is well worth it. It makes combat so much easier it feels like cheating. And when people talk about ships having large cockpits it's so much easier to see when you can actually look around. Everything is massively immersive. The only issue is with the galaxy/system maps which don't seem to work well; it's hard to line up the pointer to the view to select stars/planets.
Handy if you use w10 not so much if not. Just something to be aware of.
Personally I'm playing the waiting game for VR. I had a DK2 and it was certainly immersion city, and the scale you appreciate a lot more, but it had major drawbacks with making me feel quite sick. I know when I posted in the VR lovers thread originally I got shot down for criticising it, it was all about my setup, not the hardware, I'm using it wrong....etc. Then VR becomes commercial and I read multiple negative reviews and comments on reviews with people getting motion sickness.
I'm not saying don't get it, just be sure you don't suffer from any kind of motion sickness, the advice to buy from somewhere you can return to is very VERY strong advice. You might think it is the bees knees, like many in this thread. You might appreciate the effect but use it for 20 minutes and never pick it up again, like my experience.
I need VR to mature beyond these early generations. I need the resolution to be much higher, clarity to be much better (from the hardware), support beyond Elite to be better & for the ridiculous "platform war" between this and Vive to sort itself out (admittedly if you only play with Elite it's a none issue) and for the price to be far, far more palatable. YMMV.
Only time will allow for these issues to mature.
My two pennies worth.
I'm not saying don't get it, just be sure you don't suffer from any kind of motion sickness, the advice to buy from somewhere you can return to is very VERY strong advice. You might think it is the bees knees, like many in this thread. You might appreciate the effect but use it for 20 minutes and never pick it up again, like my experience.
I need VR to mature beyond these early generations. I need the resolution to be much higher, clarity to be much better (from the hardware), support beyond Elite to be better & for the ridiculous "platform war" between this and Vive to sort itself out (admittedly if you only play with Elite it's a none issue) and for the price to be far, far more palatable. YMMV.
Only time will allow for these issues to mature.
My two pennies worth.
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