Oculus Rift + super sampling. Can anyone run it??

[DanteLeonhart]

I recently blew my entire tax refund on a super computer that I've been dreaming about for a while. Being a Clinical System Analyst, I used my vocational skills to build the Pc myself. I'll list the stats if needed, but let's just say it isn't a slouch.

I'm running Elite in a dedicated 6GB Ram drive, meaning the entire game is loaded fully into memory. There is no hdd access at all.

I CANNOT get this game to run decently with super sampling on in Rift. On a regular screen, I can crank everything up, but it is like that second screen in the Oculus is just too much with super sampling, and given that it is basically over scaling the graphics, I totally understand why this is happening.

But is there anyone out there that's getting more than 30fps with low latency in the Rift? It gives me a headache trying to do it even though it makes everything sooooo much clearer.

 

[777Driver]

I recently blew my entire tax refund on a super computer that I've been dreaming about for a while. Being a Clinical System Analyst, I used my vocational skills to build the Pc myself. I'll list the stats if needed, but let's just say it isn't a slouch.

I'm running Elite in a dedicated 6GB Ram drive, meaning the entire game is loaded fully into memory. There is no hdd access at all.

I CANNOT get this game to run decently with super sampling on in Rift. On a regular screen, I can crank everything up, but it is like that second screen in the Oculus is just too much with super sampling, and given that it is basically over scaling the graphics, I totally understand why this is happening.

But is there anyone out there that's getting more than 30fps with low latency in the Rift? It gives me a headache trying to do it even though it makes everything sooooo much clearer.

What machine do you have? Mine is overclocked past 5ghz with a 980.. FPS is 75 everywhere in the game, around 65 in stations, all settings maxed except med shadows, the machine is a beast, yet anything above 1.5 SS will bring it to it's knees.

I don't see why you need high super sampling, run your IPD at 55 (or 53) Don't use the default hud colors, folow the sweetfx guide on the VR forum, text and graphics will be crisp, and everything around you will be lifesize. Make sure the rift is set to 1920x1080

 

[djbordie]

ya, youd think starting a thread like this you would include the important information...SYSTEM SPECS

im running a 5820k @ 4.6 ghz with a single gtx 980 @ 1550/8000
in game super sampling at 1.5 NP! most others options on ultra, shadows low
also modded the planet textures to 4k res

handles it like a champ.
75 fps no judder and as good graphics as needed for the dk2,

also sweet fx, green hud, and other basic tweaks.

that ram drive idea is interesting, but a SSD is more than adequate. ram drives are fast but doing it like this could cause instability and also possible micro stutters.
the concept is good, practice is potentially not good.

 

[DanteLeonhart]

I just didn't want this thread to turn into a contest.

i7-4790k @ 4.8 on auto (No tweaking yet)
Radeon r9 290x
And of course the DK2

777Driver, would you mind linking me to some of those guides? Sorry this is the first I've heard about it.

Djbordie, you see like no latency problems with the rift? I wonder if it's the card you have?

The ram drive is actually INCREDIBLY stable. There is no stuttering at all and it makes Ssd, even in Raid config, look like a floppy drive.

The practice itself is very sound. Before hdd even existed, ram was the only way programs were run. The industry is basically just coming back around to this practice. Most people nowadays are either too young or inexperienced to know about it.

Edit: I just wanted to add that I did have the Ram drive get corrupt only once. I merely loaded the back up image back onto the drive and 30 seconds later I was good to go. The ram drive deposits an image of itself on the SSD every so often.

 

[777Driver]

777Driver, would you mind linking me to some of those guides? Sorry this is the first I've heard about it.

Sure dude, lots of stuff on the VR forum.. Start with trying an IPD of 55, made a huge difference for me.. Also check out this post https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=121355

EDIT - oops, mainly for Nvidia users, but it still has all the other tweaks.. Ask on the VR forum, am sure some ATI guys can help

 

[DanteLeonhart]

Sure dude, lots of stuff on the VR forum.. Start with trying an IPD of 55, made a huge difference for me.. Also check out this post https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=121355

EDIT - oops, mainly for Nvidia users, but it still has all the other tweaks.. Ask on the VR forum, am sure some ATI guys can help

This is perfect! Thank you a ton!

Edit: oh yeah!! This is great! A lot of settings are mirrored in the catalyst control panel for Radeon.

 

[Keljian]

Sorry, I don't understand why you would need a ram drive for this game. A fast ssd (which is most of them these days) would be able to copy the entire 6 gig to memory in about 12 seconds.

 

[DanteLeonhart]

Sorry, I don't understand why you would need a ram drive for this game. A fast ssd (which is most of them these days) would be able to copy the entire 6 gig to memory in about 12 seconds.

I have 32 Gb to spare, so I see nothing wrong with cutting out 6GB for my most dedicated game. The added benefit also saves some read/write on the SSD, thereby extending its life considerably. Pretty good reason to do it if you ask me.

 

[Zephyriel]

2x GTX 970, 16GB RAM, 4790K at stock speed, I can supersample up to 1440p with only occasional judder (only for a few seconds) instations or rings, perfectly playable and nausea free. I have all graphic options at max, including blur.

 

[Andrej]

The added benefit also saves some read/write on the SSD, thereby extending its life considerably. Pretty good reason to do it if you ask me.

You are planing to run your SSD for 10 years or something? You are a true optimist, sir!

PS In 5 years, SSD exceeding modern drives in every way, I think would cost about 50 Eur or less.

PSS But fact that you was able to configure RAM drive is an achievement of it own, TBH

 

[DanteLeonhart]

2x GTX 970, 16GB RAM, 4790K at stock speed, I can supersample up to 1440p with only occasional judder (only for a few seconds) instations or rings, perfectly playable and nausea free. I have all graphic options at max, including blur.

Maybe I need to buy another 290 it seems. Will both cards process graphics to the Oculus eventhough I'm only plugging into one port? I know the rift is still experimental.

Sorry, I don't understand why you would need a ram drive for this game. A fast ssd (which is most of them these days) would be able to copy the entire 6 gig to memory in about 12 seconds.

You are planing to run your SSD for 10 years or something? You are a true optimist, sir!

PS In 5 years, SSD exceeding modern drives in every way, I think would cost about 50 Eur or less.

Yeah. That's the ideal situation. At that point, running a Raid config will be super cheap. The amount of money saved would be well worth it.

 

[Gypsy12]

Just wondering you guys..

On my new mobo... I have an M.2 Port. (Asus maximus gene VII) That runs on two channels max. Was thinking of plugging a NGFF v3 SSD into it.Anyone know what the story is with that thing? I know 4x is def worth it. But 2x? As far as I know it caps out at 800mb p/s.
I have heard that I should wait until they have the next controller ready for it. What do ya think?

 

[Magnusvermagnussen]

Maybe I need to buy another 290 it seems. Will both cards process graphics to the Oculus eventhough in only plugging into one port? I know the rift is still experimental.

It's actually more of an issue with FD at this point in that this game does not support SLI/crossfire.
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Apparently, one day, long, long ago, it did support SLI/crossfire in Beta, but for some reason, this feature was removed, has never come back, and, apart from a few vague platitudes from FD, appears to not be in the pipeline anytime soon.
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I'm hoping they change their priorities, especially when they realize that not everyone is able to drop $650 for a GTX 680 once Oculus Rift CV1 and HTC Vive drop, and many will be looking to SLI to optimize their graphics and save some cash as well.

 

[Gypsy12]

Just wondering you guys..

On my new mobo... I have an M.2 Port. (Asus maximus gene VII) That runs on two channels max. Was thinking of plugging a NGFF v3 SSD into it.Anyone know what the story is with that thing? I know 4x is def worth it. But 2x? As far as I know it caps out at 800mb p/s.
I have heard that I should wait until they have the next controller ready for it. What do ya think?

I was actually thinking of Star Citizen when I wrote this. Apparently, their download is going to be 100GB! Is this going to be the next format for PC games on that scale? Buy a SSD instead of a Disk or download? (Because, face it, that is really going to kick into monthly payments) Just curious what you lot think of that idea.

 

[TinyLewis]

The ram drive is actually INCREDIBLY stable. There is no stuttering at all and it makes Ssd, even in Raid config, look like a floppy drive.

The practice itself is very sound. Before hdd even existed, ram was the only way programs were run. The industry is basically just coming back around to this practice. Most people nowadays are either too young or inexperienced to know about it.

Edit: I just wanted to add that I did have the Ram drive get corrupt only once. I merely loaded the back up image back onto the drive and 30 seconds later I was good to go. The ram drive deposits an image of itself on the SSD every so often.

You make me feel old now, the last time I used a ram drive was under DOS/Windows, a Quarterdeck product iirc (other than when I had an Amiga, 128MB memory with 8MB RAM: drive...) Anyway, out of interest, what ramdrive are you using? Presumably you are running the software creates drive and assigns drive letter at boot, and then you run a [boot time?] script to copy the game directory to there?

My system is an i3370@ 3.5GHz (stock), 16GB, 940Pro SSD boot drive, 2 x Radeon 7950 in Crossfire. There's an LSI RAID card with a pair of SSDs in RAID0 for games, Photoshop scratch drive, and VMs. Every so often, Elite stutters every so often and I'm not sure if its graphics or disk related. I've 11GB available when Elite is running (no pagefile, all physical memory). I can add another 16GB. Display is currently two x 2560x1440 Dells, but dual screen gaming is impractical - I've a third identical monitor; tried tripleheading, and ran out of DisplayPort bandwidth, resulting in centre screen at full resolution, the other two at odd resolutions. So I'm looking at removing stutters then going for 7680x1440

Oops, this is close to thread hijack... back on subject - what ram drive software are you using?

 

[PetroVitallini]

Sure dude, lots of stuff on the VR forum.. Start with trying an IPD of 55, made a huge difference for me.. Also check out this post https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=121355

EDIT - oops, mainly for Nvidia users, but it still has all the other tweaks.. Ask on the VR forum, am sure some ATI guys can help

Hey!

About the IPD. Do you mean changing this setting to 55 in the Elite settings file or manually setting it in the oculus utilities? In Drkaii thread he says the ED setting files is obsolete if you want to change IPD in ED so I assume this is true? Also, do you advice using 55 in ED regardless of what the oculus IPD measurement tool says? Mine says 61.9 or so. I`m at work atm and can`t check the difference, but my emerging tweaking-OCD is always reading and planning new stuff to try when I get home.

Edit: some typos and another question added.

 

[DanteLeonhart]

Oops, this is close to thread hijack... back on subject - what ram drive software are you using?

Haha not a hijack at all. I loved hearing about your setup!

I'm using the DataRAM Ramdisk software suite. My license is old, it was before they came out with different sized packages, so instead of having to buy 16gb or 32gb, I'm basically limitless. I love it. It does everything I want it to, including the automatic image saving. I just set it and forget about it. Coincidentally, the time the drive corrupted was because of my endless fidgeting with the controls haha

I've learned my lesson. It works, it's not broke, so I'll try not to fix it.

 

[Ancipital]

Just wondering you guys..

On my new mobo... I have an M.2 Port. (Asus maximus gene VII) That runs on two channels max. Was thinking of plugging a NGFF v3 SSD into it.Anyone know what the story is with that thing? I know 4x is def worth it. But 2x? As far as I know it caps out at 800mb p/s.
I have heard that I should wait until they have the next controller ready for it. What do ya think?

It's partly a question of how many video cards you're running, and how many PCI-E lanes your CPU and chipset has. If you have the lanes to spare, and your slots, chipset and CPU can fit around it, it's very nice- even though we're only seeing a very early version of how it will end up

Edit:

Found this, which might shed some more light for you:

http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Overview-of-M-2-SSDs-586/#PCI-Elanecomplications

 

[Zephyriel]

It's actually more of an issue with FD at this point in that this game does not support SLI/crossfire.

That can't be right. Once I updated my drivers and it disabled SLi by default, i didn't notice and when I fired up the game I didn't understand, it was pukefest inside the station, a constant unplayable judder. I was about to rollback, then I went to the settings and noticed. I turned SLI back on and went back to a 75FPS (ish) smooth experience. SLI definitely makes a huge difference in ED as well as everything else I've tried so far.

 

[Soliluna]

That can't be right. Once I updated my drivers and it disabled SLi by default, i didn't notice and when I fired up the game I didn't understand, it was pukefest inside the station, a constant unplayable judder. I was about to rollback, then I went to the settings and noticed. I turned SLI back on and went back to a 75FPS (ish) smooth experience. SLI definitely makes a huge difference in ED as well as everything else I've tried so far.

I've not seen anything that says this game is not SLI capable.