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Odyssey - Crash with Nvidia 1080
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Will give this a try. Thanks.
Go back to drivers 466.77. Last known driver to give you full performance, since then Nvidia started implementing some sort of Power saving new technology and all tho...they say it doesn't effect performance, I don't believe it. Also no crashes with those drivers.
Update:
When I downgraded to version 471.11 the game was a bit better, however I still experienced the crash to a black screen. I downgraded further down to 466.77 as suggested by CMDR LumpTheNoLeggedDog and the game is much stable now. Not a single crash. A close friend of mine whose got the same Nvidia Geforce RTX 3090 GPU built be Corsair just experienced the same issue while he started grinding Exobiology. Just suggested him to downgrade to same version and see how it goes.
Definitely this is a game issue, as other games works well with the latest version of nVivia. o7 and thanks - much obliged @LumpTheNoLeggedDog
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CMDR XpressioN
If you raised a support ticket (like I referred to in post #40 above) then updating it with that information should be very useful to the devs to try to tie-down their issue. Getting info like this to the development team is gold.
(because the issue tracker is pants)
I haven't updated the drivers on my Pascal cards in about a year, but maybe I'll see if I encounter any issues with the newest ones.
Elite: Dangerous is an uncommonly demanding game and will frequently reveal thermal or other hardware issues that other games do not.
Elite: Dangerous is an uncommonly demanding game and will frequently reveal thermal or other hardware issues that other games do not.
I would like to clarify something here. Both Elite Dangerous Horizons and Odyssey works fine when played for hours, even with the latest nVidia drivers. I'm only experiencing this issue once I land on a planet and start scouting for the search of Bios. After doing so for approx. 5 minutes, you can hear a burst of high GPU fans revs. This does it intermittent, however the steps are as follows:
I land, disembark, scan the first of three samples, embark my ship and start searching for the next sample. If I prolong in doing this - by for e.g. scan 5 BIOs on a planet - I hear a burst of high GPU fans revs every now and then. If I keep playing and continue with the scans, eventually I get a black screen and 100% high speed fans revs, having no choice but to hard-reset PC. Before I hard-reset, the PC is still functioning, Caps Lock, and you can still hear clicks or discord voice chat. If I attempt to press the PC's power button so as to get it shutdown gracefully, (like sleep or hibernation mode) upon turning it on, I get the same black screen. So the only way to return back is a hard-reset.
This is only experienced while grinding Exobiology, nothing else. If I do trading, exploration, space combat, thargoid hunting, grinding of mats, CGs, CZs, BH, engineering, even ground CZs for hours, nothing of the above happens. Only Exobiology.
Update - while using nVidia drivers ver. 466.77 can still hear some burst of high GPU fans, however much less frequent than with other driver versions, and at least the game doesn't crash.
N.B. I upgraded to a new rig purposely to be able to play the latest games, such as Odyssey, MSFS2020, Star Citizen, MS Forza 5 at full graphics ultra settings, on a 38” UltraGear Curved WQHD+ Nano IPS 1ms 144Hz HDR 600 Monitor with G-SYNC® Compatibility screen using its max resolution of QHD+ (3840 x 1600) I have absolutely no issues with all other games, and although the GPU fans increase their revs while playing MSFS2020 at 60fps, they are stable and no bursts. Nothing crashes except Odyssey's while on planets scanning Bios.
o7 CMDRs.
I will issue a support ticket as you suggested, with all the details.
With regards to a friend of mine that have the same issue on a similar rig with a nVidia Geforce RTX 3090 GPU, he was experiencing it when he exit the SC glide on to a particular planet. He downgraded his nVidia drivers and managed to solve his issue. He never had this issue, however after asking him a couple of questions, for investigating a possible cause, we determine that, both of us never had this problem while we grinded Exo to Elite during the first updates of the game. We also had older nVidia drivers at that time. Once we grinded Exo to Elite, we didn't do it anymore, we played other roles in the game.
I restarted grinding Exo to Elite V recently and started experiencing these issues. On the other hand, both of us enrolled ourselves to an expedition and while exploring and reaching Waypoints, it was natural to do Exo, and that's what triggered my friend's issue. Presumably the problem may be cause by a recent bug that surfaced from the recent Updates. I cannot blame nVidia drivers as all other games I play, do not crash. I cannot blame the hardware for the same reason. There's something that is triggering this particular crash, while rendering planetary tech of which unfortunately is in a sorry state compared with Horizons (deepest apologies dear FDev, don't take it personally).
What I notice when I get low in altitude, descending on the surface of the planet is that the planetary I get a rectangular patch of land changing to different gradient of the terrain colour, and this is a quite noticeable. Horizons was perfect, you would definitely notice the terrain details from the orbit, and while descending you won't notice that you're just a couple of meters from touching the ground.
o7 CMDRs
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Thing is, you can have Desktop and Laptop with exactly same specifications and running the same drivers but yet, they are not the same. Difference are set thresholds. Laptop thresholds are usually set lower to prevent laptops from overheating. That makes them more stable but will loose some performance. Desktop hardware is set to default and certain drivers may cause problems because threshold on those drives are set to low, that is why with certain drivers Desktops will crash and laptops may start overheating and that is why you can't compare laptop to desktop stability wise.
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o7 CMDRs,
Just heads up, Despite installing nVidia driver v. 466.77 I'm still experiencing the Black Screen crash. However this is not as frequent as it was and only experience it when I land on a planet with many Bios. Yesterday I found a system with four landable with atmospheric planets and all of them had 9 Bios. I scanned all 9 Bios from all 4 planets, however with every planet there was a crash. Could be coincidence however when I get to a Concha I get the black screen. Hard reset and I can rescan this Concha and proceed with all the others.
Now, more news. I'm doing this expedition LS3, and while discussing this with my friends there, one of them is experiencing the same exact thing. I asked him for the specs of his machine, and has same specs like me. Same RTX 3090 (mine is MSI though his is a different brand) same iCore 9 (although mine is 10th Gen and his is 11th Gen). The game doesn't crash for him except while he's doing Exo.
I issued a support ticket as @Para Nandy suggested and updated it with my friend's DxDiag information as well. Fingers crossed perhaps they find out what the problem is and give us a solution.
o7
Dear all, o7.
Wanted to update you with my issue and how I got around it. As suggested by CMDR @LumpTheNoLeggedDog I issued a Support Ticket with FDev. They replied to me immediately and were helpful as always in trying to resolve my issue. I sent them all the above details and they suggested me to try using the Debug Mode. Since I've got a GPU that is overclocked by the manufacturer (in the case MSI), using Debug Mode (from the Help menu of nVidia's Control Panel) will enforce the card to use nVidia's native clock speeds. This together with the driver ver. 466.77 worked much better. I rarely experience crashes using this method. Occasionally, when I'm doing Exo or once even running with the SRV around rocky environments with Exo's Bio Plants triggered the Black Screen issue.
Once restarted I re-enabled Debug Mode and played as usual. Using the above method the GPU fans rarely spiked (got 100% revs) and back to normal speeds. However it still did it every now and then. After reporting back to FDev Support, they suggested to use MSI Afterburner to underclock the GPU. I've never used any overclocking software however gave this a shot. I removed Debug Mode, installed MSI Afterburner and decreased the values and saved the profile. I have also re-installed the latest nVidia drivers.
Once done, I launched the game and after a couple of hours, I noticed that the game was running smoother and the GPU fans never varied their speed. I've been playing for over a week now without a single crash. Also FPS didn't decrease when underclocked. I can safely grind Exo to Elite V now
Support closed the ticket and stated that this would be a temporary solution - "We're always working on improving the stability and performance of our games and hope to be able to resolve this for you as soon as possible"
Another CMDR friend of mine was having the same exact issues. He has an nVidia Geforce RTX 3090 GPU but from a different manufacturer. Using the MSI Afterburner to underclock his GPU solved his issue as well. Our conclusion is definitely planetary tech is causing the problem.
On a separate note, since I installed the MSI Afterburner, I created another profile. This time, instead of underclocking, I Overclocked my GPU using the OC button (on the left) and saved it under a different profile. Games like SC, MSFS2020 and MS Forza 5 runs smoother and additional FPS noted.
Hope this will give other CMDRs that are having issues with their RTX 3090 GPU a heads up.
Kind regards
CMDR XpressioN
Wanted to update you with my issue and how I got around it. As suggested by CMDR @LumpTheNoLeggedDog I issued a Support Ticket with FDev. They replied to me immediately and were helpful as always in trying to resolve my issue. I sent them all the above details and they suggested me to try using the Debug Mode. Since I've got a GPU that is overclocked by the manufacturer (in the case MSI), using Debug Mode (from the Help menu of nVidia's Control Panel) will enforce the card to use nVidia's native clock speeds. This together with the driver ver. 466.77 worked much better. I rarely experience crashes using this method. Occasionally, when I'm doing Exo or once even running with the SRV around rocky environments with Exo's Bio Plants triggered the Black Screen issue.
Once restarted I re-enabled Debug Mode and played as usual. Using the above method the GPU fans rarely spiked (got 100% revs) and back to normal speeds. However it still did it every now and then. After reporting back to FDev Support, they suggested to use MSI Afterburner to underclock the GPU. I've never used any overclocking software however gave this a shot. I removed Debug Mode, installed MSI Afterburner and decreased the values and saved the profile. I have also re-installed the latest nVidia drivers.
Once done, I launched the game and after a couple of hours, I noticed that the game was running smoother and the GPU fans never varied their speed. I've been playing for over a week now without a single crash. Also FPS didn't decrease when underclocked. I can safely grind Exo to Elite V now
Support closed the ticket and stated that this would be a temporary solution - "We're always working on improving the stability and performance of our games and hope to be able to resolve this for you as soon as possible"
Another CMDR friend of mine was having the same exact issues. He has an nVidia Geforce RTX 3090 GPU but from a different manufacturer. Using the MSI Afterburner to underclock his GPU solved his issue as well. Our conclusion is definitely planetary tech is causing the problem.
On a separate note, since I installed the MSI Afterburner, I created another profile. This time, instead of underclocking, I Overclocked my GPU using the OC button (on the left) and saved it under a different profile. Games like SC, MSFS2020 and MS Forza 5 runs smoother and additional FPS noted.
Hope this will give other CMDRs that are having issues with their RTX 3090 GPU a heads up.
Kind regards
CMDR XpressioN
If your system meets power delivery and cooling specifications for the card and the card isn't stable at it's manufacturer rated speeds (but is at lower clocks, demonstrating that it's not an instability intrinsic to the application be run) then the part is defective and should be sent in for warranty service/exchange, if possible.