Oh my - Elite Dangerous is a space station hopping game? (i.e. no landing on planets)

mill

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Cast your mind back say over 20 years, Frontier Elite 2, great fun landing on planets, seeing the clouds fly past, fly to the moon! Why not!

Try that out with Frontier Dangerous, you get a warning message and your spaceship just bounces back off the planets.

You're left there thinking, all this hardware, all this software engineering progress, and we've taken a step back from Elite 2, a game from the early 90s!

Is it a deal breaker? Well, without planet exploration, Elite dangerous is not a space simulation, but a 'space station hopper'.

Please don't make landing on planets in Elite Dangerous a paid-for expansion, have some respect for your fans, just like we respect your past work.
 

Cmdr Andy B

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mill said:
Cast your mind back say over 20 years, Frontier Elite 2, great fun landing on planets, seeing the clouds fly past, fly to the moon! Why not!

Try that out with Frontier Dangerous, you get a warning message and your spaceship just bounces back off the planets.

You're left there thinking, all this hardware, all this software engineering progress, and we've taken a step back from Elite 2, a game from the early 90s!

Is it a deal breaker? Well, without planet exploration, Elite dangerous is not a space simulation, but a 'space station hopper'.

Please don't make landing on planets in Elite Dangerous a paid-for expansion, have some respect for your fans, just like we respect your past work.
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sorry to disappoint you but landing on planets WILL be a paid for expansion, its going to take a lot of work to do it right and needs to be paid for somehow.
 

Sargon

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Sargon
I also respect Frontier's work... And being in the game industry I appreciate hard work and don't mind paying for an expansion.
Planetary landings at the level expected by today's gamer will be a TREMENDOUS undertaking.
 
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Oakshios

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mill said:
Cast your mind back say over 20 years, Frontier Elite 2, great fun landing on planets, seeing the clouds fly past, fly to the moon! Why not!

Try that out with Frontier Dangerous, you get a warning message and your spaceship just bounces back off the planets.

You're left there thinking, all this hardware, all this software engineering progress, and we've taken a step back from Elite 2, a game from the early 90s!

Is it a deal breaker? Well, without planet exploration, Elite dangerous is not a space simulation, but a 'space station hopper'.

Please don't make landing on planets in Elite Dangerous a paid-for expansion, have some respect for your fans, just like we respect your past work.
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Researching a product before purchasing said product could possibly prevent buyer's remorse and/or disappointment when said product does not contain features you might expect to be included.
 

mill

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Oakshios said:
Researching a product before purchasing said product could possibly prevent buyer's remorse and/or disappointment when said product does not contain features you might expect to be included.
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That is a little difficult when said product was purchased as a Kickstarter backing in anticipation of great things from the maker of Elite 2.
 

Tinman

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Here you go.

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Major expansions like planetary landings and first person gameplay have always been planned to be introduced later in the form of payed expansions. This instead of running the game on an subscription.
 

Defacto

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mill said:
That is a little difficult when said product was purchased as a Kickstarter backing in anticipation of great things from the maker of Elite 2.
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Which is why you do not back kickstarter projects if you're not ready for this kind of disappointment.
A kickstarter back is not a purchase.
 

mill

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AndyB(EDB50) said:
sorry to disappoint you but landing on planets WILL be a paid for expansion, its going to take a lot of work to do it right and needs to be paid for somehow.
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The other side of the 'coin' so to speak is that the feature HAS been paid for. Anyway, will leave the game and this forum for now, good luck to all.
 

Hexcaliber

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mill said:
have some respect for your fans, just like we respect your past work.
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So much for the “fan” talking about respect, has no idea about the game whatsoever.

To prevent further misunderstandings and pointless posts asking for features that are already in the pipeline head on over to the design discussion archive. While not everything there will make it into the game the way it is described, if at all. The threads over there will at least give you an idea what the devs have planned; and yes, you will be paying if you want to see the major features, such as landing on planets, fps combat, walking around stations, it has been no secret the game would feature paid dlc.
 

Branoic

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mill said:
That is a little difficult when said product was purchased as a Kickstarter backing in anticipation of great things from the maker of Elite 2.
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Seriously? Did you do no research at all? It's been extremely well known for the last two years that planetary landings would come in an expansion. The only person surprised by this now appears to be you.
 

TheNameIsJambo

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Kickstarter backing isn't 'making a purchase'. It's giving money to someone on the basis you'll maybe receive a product, that is maybe similar, possibly, to their original intentions, maybe, possibly.

I already paid my £35 lifetime expansion pass monies. And £50 to be in the standard beta. I bought in late. But £85 later, I know what I'm in for. I didn't buy in blind.

Edit - as everyone else has now said: planetary landings weren't in the original design and were always, and always will be, a planned expansion.
 
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Sargon

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mill said:
The other side of the 'coin' so to speak is that the feature HAS been paid for. Anyway, will leave the game and this forum for now, good luck to all.
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Here's the deal. A customer doesn't determine what has been paid for. The seller does. As expressed here, backing a project doesn't automatically get you everything unless the seller gives it to you.
 

ecgallagher

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Just as a comparison, as far as I know, Star Citizen has plans for planetary landings but will be using a cut scene for the majority of the landing sequence.

Sargon is correct that this will be a tremendous undertaking to do it right.
 

Sargon

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Sargon
ecgallagher said:
Just as a comparison, as far as I know, Star Citizen has plans for planetary landings but will be using a cut scene for the majority of the landing sequence.

Sargon is correct that this will be a tremendous undertaking to do it right.
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AND we all want it done right. :D and it WILL be.

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ste said:
Yous are talking to yourselfs now. The guy said he was going. Sounds like he got the bus here.
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Yeah.. the short-bus.
 

Zplintz

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Expansions are chargeable (unless you backed to receive the expansions free).

There is no subscription for ED and FD need to fund each stage of development. The major expansions seems a fair way to do it.

If I want to continue to play by the time each expansion is released I will pay. It's no different from most games that offer chargeable DLC (and some subcription games charge fir DLC too).

Can't why it's an issue personally?
 

Oakshios

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mill said:
That is a little difficult when said product was purchased as a Kickstarter backing in anticipation of great things from the maker of Elite 2.
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I suppose that means you have known for months this was not a planned feature for launch and that most likely will come late 2015 early 2016. I mean, you wouldn't help support a kickstarted project without checking, periodically, what your money was helping to produce and what your investment would return to you as reward, would you?
 
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