Ok, these palladium 'mining' missions need to be replaced by a resource that can only be mined not bought.

Cmdr Kurnek

Cmdr Kurnek
Ok, these palladium 'mining' missions need to be replaced by a resource that can only be mined not bought.

I just picked up 750k worth of mining missions for palladium on my regular trade route where I pick up palladium at the other end anyway. I'm set to make 1 million credits in 7 minutes or less, in a t7. And this is happening regularly. Please make mining missions only for mined products as this borders on an exploit, surely?

EDIT: Frankly I'm going to keep taking these missions and just buying the palladium for as long as it takes FD to fix it. It's making me feel like I'm getting a bit of payback after they put the 20 ton limit on ALL piracy, effectively killing an entire career. I don't pirate, but some people were promised they could, and I'm getting sick of broken promises from FD.
 
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IronGremlin

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There is no reason to restrict rewards to a specific activity. It's counter to the open play that makes the game fun and interesting.
Missions rewarding a specific commodity existed already, there is no reason to change how they work.

If you're concerned that mining is not competitive in terms of credits per hour with trading, which for the record is a concern I share, then please suggest changes or additions to the mechanics of the activity of mining, not artificial restrictions on the profit of other activities.
 

thorn-

thorn-
Do you really think the majority of of players would suddenly redo their ships into mining configurations and head for the nearest random asteroid belt?

It's a commodity, like any other. Sometimes they ask for Gold and Silver, too. So far I've not been asked to find frankincense or myrrh.
 

Lima

Lima
Don't take the missions if you don't want the money. What other does have literally zero impact on you.
 

Cmdr Kurnek

Cmdr Kurnek
Ok, as usual everyone has missed the point. I LOVE the idea of mining missions. They provide some much needed profit to a under-performing profession. What I'm not a fan of is the ability of traders to BUY the palladium and use the missions simply as an expansion of their trade routes to earn excess profits THAT WERE NOT INTENDED FOR THEM. I trade regularly and I see no reason traders should be able to profit from things put in the game to attempt to fix mining....

Traders don't need help to make MORE money....

If it's intended to work this way I'll accept it and move on, as you say it doesn't effect me, but somehow I doubt giving yet more easy money to traders just after implementing massive credit sinks was what they had in mind...
 
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EUS

EUS
You're lucky, these are missions that for me, pop up once in a blue moon, but only 2-3T of gold, silver, and only where I'm allied.
Last night I almost accepted a 350K payout to source osmium, or something like that, then I realized it would have to be mined, and turned it down.
I did see a couple palladium missions like you say, but they were unavailable to me, due to either my standing with the local faction, or my trade rank was too low, so enjoy them.
 
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CMDR Hagglebeard

CMDR Hagglebeard
That's insane, but I rarely find mining missions myself. I agree with you, perhaps a tag that says "mined" palladium? Perhaps it's richer than the stuff that's been in grimey starport holds, or the sector needs a new source of palladium rather than trading around the stuff it already has?

Also, I miss piracy being doable. when I guard my friend while he mines in a HI-RES, I can't pirate because he dumps extra cargo, which clogs up the 20t limit, if there's cargo I don't want, I have to wait for it to decay or shoot it, and i don't know if fragments and limpets count towards the 20t.

Ugh. :mad:
 
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knowles2

K
Cmdr Beeston said:
I just picked up 750k worth of mining missions for palladium on my regular trade route where I pick up palladium at the other end anyway. I'm set to make 1 million credits in 7 minutes or less, in a t7. And this is happening regularly. Please make mining missions only for mined products as this borders on an exploit, surely?

EDIT: Frankly I'm going to keep taking these missions and just buying the palladium for as long as it takes FD to fix it. It's making me feel like I'm getting a bit of payback after they put the 20 ton limit on ALL piracy, effectively killing an entire career. I don't pirate, but some people were promised they could, and I'm getting sick of broken promises from FD.
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When was their a 20 ton limit on all piracy introduce and how is it enforce. I haven't seen this in any of the patch notes.

I presume there hidden sources of Palladium that you can mine, you just gotta find them. Once you do you literally have your own credit mine.
 

nilreb

nilreb
As the other mining missions demand "Osmium" and "Painite" it is for sure a failure and was IMHO indended for "Platinium" not "Palladium". "Nerf" incomming for sure ...
Former (<1.3) there was in fact a working check if commodity was mined or buyed.
Maybe FDEV can also manage to bring the "haulage" classification under "cargo" [right panel] back. CMDR's can sell by mistake yet. 1000 things broken currently.

We salute you!
 

ocflyer

ocflyer
Arda said:
No no, don't change anything- they really up my trade cr/t/hr profit.
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What he said. I'm finding Palladium missions on one end of my trade route and Progenitor missions on the other end of my trade route. Woo hoo!

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CMDR Hagglebeard said:
It was introduced in the 1.3 update, and no one told us. I feel quite cheated.
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How does this 20 ton limit come into play??? Is your cargo hold limited to 20t of stolen/illegal?
 

CMDR Starschulz

CMDR Starschulz
I see what you are talking about, OP. but people would rather get that extra Cr/h profit so they can grind to an anaconda faster, or something like that.

Kind of upsetting when people complain about how the game is too much of a grind, but all i am reading on the forums nowadays is "why was my farming spot nerfed!11!!1!" "why can't i grind harder??"
 

CmdrZaratan

C
nilreb said:
As the other mining missions demand "Osmium" and "Painite" it is for sure a failure and was IMHO indended for "Platinium" not "Palladium". "Nerf" incomming for sure ...
Former (<1.3) there was in fact a working check if commodity was mined or buyed.
Maybe FDEV can also manage to bring the "haulage" classification under "cargo" [right panel] back. CMDR's can sell by mistake yet. 1000 things broken currently.

We salute you!
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What this guy said. It's a clear mistake on behalf of the developers to make those missions Palladium and not Platinum and it will eventually be fixed when someone notices.

These missions are intended to make mining more profitable, not trading, so as to encourage more people to do a spot of mining (and given they finally fixed the collector limpets with the last patch so multiple drones co-operate properly, mining is now pretty good).
 

Cmdr Kurnek

Cmdr Kurnek
CmdrZaratan said:
What this guy said. It's a clear mistake on behalf of the developers to make those missions Palladium and not Platinum and it will eventually be fixed when someone notices.

These missions are intended to make mining more profitable, not trading, so as to encourage more people to do a spot of mining (and given they finally fixed the collector limpets with the last patch so multiple drones co-operate properly, mining is now pretty good).
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Thanks for the update on drones actually, I've been meaning to test that.

As for being able to sell the palladium, It was clearly never intended to be completed by traders as it specifically mentions mining. I think the other cmdr her hit it on the head when he said it was probably intended to be platinum and somebody got mixed up.
 

n13L5

n13L5
Why. Who cares if a dime a dozen cookie cutter mission gets completed without the futile and time wasting exercise of mining.

Having options always beats not having options. But here you are, demanding that FD should get more tight fisted.

Miners are not prevented by this.
 
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Fatdaddy

F
There is a ridiculously simple solution that solves all of the issues mention.

Change mining so you sell the raw ore. Raw ore could be used to make several tons of refined manufacturing grade metal because it's pure. Make the Misson for ore not metal.

Miners make more money as the ore is worth a lot more than metal. Traders can't hijack the missions. Pirates can make more money with 20T of stolen ore.

Everyone's happy...oh dammit that means it will defiantly never happen....sigh.
 
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The_Tenderizer01

The_Tenderizer01
ocflyer said:
What he said. I'm finding Palladium missions on one end of my trade route and Progenitor missions on the other end of my trade route. Woo hoo!

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How does this 20 ton limit come into play??? Is your cargo hold limited to 20t of stolen/illegal?
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I think the 20 ton limit means there can only be 20 tons of canisters in space. So to get a full hold in an Anoconda you would need to constantly travel to new areas to reset the 20t limit. Or just pick it up and pirate someone else. I'm not sure, but that's my guess. I think it means that each shio will give 20t. So even if you destroy a full Type 9 you would only get as much cargo as a full Cobra would also give.
 
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