Hardware & Technical OK! What graphics card?

So my long suffering/unreliable AMD 7870XT is playing up terribly now. Can hardly even get to windows. eg:-

Even at the bios screen:-
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So I'm planning to get an NVidia 1070? Maybe an MSI Gaming X?

Any suggestions/advice?
 
I'd check the cables and that it's properly seated. Try a different slot. Try a different machine on the same monitor, and then the same graphics card in that machine.
 
I'd check the cables and that it's properly seated. Try a different slot. Try a different machine on the same monitor, and then the same graphics card in that machine.

It's been slowly getting worse and worse over months, and especially over the last few days... and then VERY much so over the last few hours. I might not even boot to windows now, and you'll get video corruptions like red dots up the screen, or complete video lock ups.

I've taken the card out, reseated it. Changed over the two leads to it to different PSU ports etc.

Look at the image above of my BIOS screen for example? Surely there is a serious hardware issue getting worse and worse on the card.

ps: I ran memtest for a hour+ this afternoon without an error. And the 12v and 5v look rock solid.

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If you're set on getting a 1070, the only suggestion I can offer is to avoid the EVGA ones with the ACX 2.0 coolers.. they forgot to apply thermal pads to ram and vrm and it causes issues.

All the rest are fine.. I did a review of how the 1070 runs with elite back when I got my founders edition last june https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/265218-GTX-1070-and-Elite-first-impressions

Any of these since Nov 1st have been "fixed" now and come with the pads (& a bios update).

I'd get one actually but I fear the bios fix for them has ramped up their fans to help and this has made them noisier.
 
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Your BIOS screen makes me think it's a VRAM memory issue, or a panel issue, or a cable issue.

What happens if you use a different output on the card, or use the IGP, if you have one?
 
Your BIOS screen makes me think it's a VRAM memory issue, or a panel issue, or a cable issue.

What happens if you use a different output on the card, or use the IGP, if you have one?
Not sure how that would help? If I plugged it in via say a display port rather than the DVI (to a monitor) then:-
1) If I worked OK?
2) If it still had the problem?

Either way doesn't discount/point to anything!?


Note: I use a KVM switch (with a keyboard/monitor) with two machines feeding to it via DVI connectors. It's clearly not anything to do that as the PC can completely lock up/freeze so it's a hardware issue on the PC surely.

Given random corruption flickering, odd red lines/pixels down the screen, and the fact it's getting worse, quickly, surely it has to be the gfx card?!

It would be a nightmare to buy an Nvidia 1070 and still get the issues --- EEEK! But that doesn't seem logical!


ps: And a few months back when I was getting video lock ups I downclocked the gpu/mem and then it was rock solid until this weekend just gone... And now it's getting bad quick!
 
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Try bypassing the KVM and plug directly.

I've got some Iogear Extremes that have given nothing but problems.

Just tried that, and imagine the image below, but now rather than with solid red bars, rolling red corrupted pixels! Even some parts of it such as the speedo top right had off colour shadows too!

Really feels like borked video memory or something!?


The fact it's been a slow progression, and all of sudden getting worse more and more quicky. Just feels like the video card.

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As a quick and dirty test - press down on the VRAM chips and see if that does anything - a dry joint can sometimes be detected this way.

I'd still try and ascertain if the card itself is good in another machine, and that the particular port you are using doesn't have a bent pin, that the cable itself is ok, and that the monitor is set to default settings for that input. Try a VGA connector and cable.
 
As a quick and dirty test - press down on the VRAM chips and see if that does anything - a dry joint can sometimes be detected this way.

I'd still try and ascertain if the card itself is good in another machine, and that the particular port you are using doesn't have a bent pin, that the cable itself is ok, and that the monitor is set to default settings for that input. Try a VGA connector and cable.

This is a PC that's been sitting there for years working basically fine... And has slowly developed issues, especially over the last week. And then very much so today.

I took the card out today when it went really bad, and even tightened up the screws gently on the bottom to ensure any gaps were tight/closed...

RE cable - instead of my DVI cable to my KVM switch, I plugged the monitor straight into the card, and immediately got digital red mess scrolling up the screen on going into my BIOS. And this is the same monitor/KVM I'm using on my second PC right now.


Given the scrolling mess across the screen, unless it's somehow my MB causing it somehow, it surely has to be the graphics card.

Earlier, the moment I ran Left 4 Dead 2, or ED, I'd get video mess on the screen or even complete video freezes. Now it's just getting more and more common to the extent I can't even boot up into Windows sometimes...
 
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No... I believe I need to enable it in the BIOS and TBH given how flakey the booting up even now is, I'd rather not even turn the machine on TBH!

If you unplug the card, the BIOS will revert to the IGP. If it's still flakey then - no amount of Titan X Pascal is going to fix it.
 
If you unplug the card, the BIOS will revert to the IGP. If it's still flakey then - no amount of Titan X Pascal is going to fix it.

Tried it with an HDMI lead, and the BIOS warning light just stayed RED and no video. Probably not automatically reverting for some reason.
 
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IMO that looks and sounds like a slowly degenerating solder job on memory or somesuch. If a part says "RoHS" anywhere, and everything does these days, it's engineered to fail.

If you want a drop-in replacement (that uses half the power), the RX480 is Totally Fine for "normal" loads (and only uses like half the power), and if you want more, the GTX 1070 or 1080 and the upcoming new AMD parts are there (and I'd wait for the latter to appear on shelves before deciding).

(edit) ah, done deed, enjoy the upgrade :)
 
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IMO that looks and sounds like a slowly degenerating solder job on memory or somesuch. If a part says "RoHS" anywhere, and everything does these days, it's engineered to fail.

If you want a drop-in replacement (that uses half the power), the RX480 is Totally Fine for "normal" loads (and only uses like half the power), and if you want more, the GTX 1070 or 1080 and the upcoming new AMD parts are there (and I'd wait for the latter to appear on shelves before deciding).

(edit) ah, done deed, enjoy the upgrade :)



My take is that something has slowly been degrading on it, and then this week rapibly degraded. I just hope it is the card. I can't imagine it's anything else giving these symptoms.

Anyway, new 1070 arrives tomorrow and I'll fit it Sat. God I hope it works OK!
 
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