OK which of you pirates nicked Phobos and Deimos

Wescott

Wescott
Genuinely interested any one know the back story of what happened to Mars's moons or are they stealthed?
 

eeimben

eeimben
I presume they were converted into exclusive condos with Hyper FSD drives and now tour the galaxy stopping off at high population tourist destinations.

"If its Tuesday, it must be 37 Chi Bermuda..."
 

Kerbal_Killer

K
They were used to terraform Mars. Humanity forcing them to impact the surface caused the core of the planet to become more active again. In turn, this began to generate a stronger magnetic field for the planet; which allowed for better retention of the atmosphere that was subsequently formed from the newly active volcanic and mantle activity on the planet left behind by the destructive force of the collision. Over the past 1200 years the planet has cooled enough to transplant plant and animal life to the planet.
 
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Unfluffydave

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Kerbal_Killer said:
They were used to terraform Mars. Humanity forcing them to impact the surface caused the core of the planet to become more active again. In turn, this began to generate a stronger magnetic field for the planet; which allowed for better retention of the atmosphere that was subsequently formed from the newly active volcanic and mantle activity on the planet left behind by the destructive force of the collision. Over the past 1200 years the planet has cooled enough to transplant plant and animal life to the planet.
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That is a damned good explanation with just one minor drawback. Mars was a terraformed planet in Frontier but still had its' moons, in fact Phobos was very popular with pilots wanting to exploit the way to Elite with a mining laser.
 

Kerbal_Killer

K
Sorry, this is my first Elite game. I tried ;). TBH the Sol system seems lacking from the videos I've seen. I don't mind missing moons as much as I mind the planets just looking WAY off.
 

talshiarr

talshiarr
Or are they in the dryer with the missing socks?

I guess Captain Obvious would just say they're too small to render properly in Supercruise, nothing else spotted by me so far has even been close to as tiny as they are.
 
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Karl

K
By wikipedia:
Saturn has 62 known satellites.
Jupiter has 67 known satellites.
How many in the game?
Unless I missed something in the youtube video (since I'm not playing, nor probably will ever play), what happened to the educational and scientific aspect?
 

talshiarr

talshiarr
It's a game. Who cares if all 50+ speck-sized asteroid moons of Jupiter and Saturn are there clogging up the supercruise orbital views? If you want that level of fidelity, go download Space Engine.
 

Defacto

Defacto
talshiarr said:
It's a game. Who cares if all 50+ speck-sized asteroid moons of Jupiter and Saturn are there clogging up the supercruise orbital views? If you want that level of fidelity, go download Space Engine.
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Or, they could have that ''fidelity'' in Elite, because that would really be nice. Besides, I already downloaded Space Engine. Should I download it again?

Asteroidal bodies currently do not exist in the game. THey were there in FE2, so I'm sure that they will be back. It might take some work for FD to make, though, since they are different form both planets and smaller asteroids.
 

talshiarr

talshiarr
Is this really what you think would add something to the game as you approach Jupiter, never mind that they'd be essentially invisible until you drop out of Supercruise next to them? If you do, fine, I just don't mind them not bothering.

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Karl

K
talshiarr said:
It's a game. Who cares if all 50+ speck-sized asteroid moons of Jupiter and Saturn are there clogging up the supercruise orbital views? If you want that level of fidelity, go download Space Engine.
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Everyone who enjoyed the accuracy attempted in FE2? Even within its known limitations (i.e. galaxy thickness), it was pretty dam good. Especially considering its time.
Everyone who currently enjoys the attempted accuracy for a known and plausible galaxy? Why use star catalogs as a base if "it's only a game"?
Everyone awaiting the orrery, where cool orbits can be "observed from" (I guess) which is not typically available for main planets near the ecliptic.
The creators of the game? DB already said Kupier/Oort/Coments would be in.

Why would I download Space Engine? I'm already "playing" it like crazy ;) Unfortunately it doesn't really have any game mechanics in, and currently it's a bit too crash happy. Can't wait for 0.972 though, it looks insanely nice, have a look at the trailer.

As for invisible, they're showing orbits, no reason they shouldn't be able to place pixel markers for subpixel size bodies as well. But yeah, very important, especially for the orrery function. Just take a look at their orientation. I'm guessing you won't find too many of those for most planets, which are typically close to the ecliptic.

Bah. "It's only a game"? That's blasphemy in ears of our old timers. :( This is science, education, a trigger to search the unknown. It just so happens to have gameplay elements attached.
 
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