Ol skool fun!

After making 3 runs at picking up life pods and dealing hate and discontent to local bug populations I decided to take a break. My manufactured mats are very low and I need replenishment. So, I went hunting HGEs instead. I really need core dynamic composites so off to Fed Boom systems I went.

I ran into a bunch of very large systems and each one had Multiple HGE sites all way out into the system, searching through 20 to 30 signal sources in the scanner got old really quickly. I didn't have much luck on finding the core dynamics, so I ended up in an Imp system picking up Imp shielding. I tried the re-loggo but that got old even quicker... I really hate that crap. So, I decided to head back to tharg territory and call it a night.

On the way back, I got to thinking, maybe I'll just take one of my combat ships, add some collector limpets and go to a res zone and do a little harvesting. I thought about which ship to use as I was going to have to do a fair bit of parts swapping of my combat ships or my mining T-10. I hate all that swapping around of dedicated ships to a new loadout that I would have to swap back later. Then it hit me... Sitting a couple of hundred light years away in Rangchan, under pile of dust, was my old Corvette. That would do nicely. It's half-arsed engineered, but it will do. I tweaked her as best I could and hit a low res to test her out, forgetting to stow some limpets and call up my pilot. :rolleyes:

In spite of all that, I had a blast... Shortly after dropping in, I had 6 pirates attacking me because I forgot I picked something from the thargs. The Corvettes handles very well for a big ship and with 4700 armor it soaks up the damage like nobody's business. Haulers popped like firecrackers, my favorites was the unshielded Eagles, one was about 4 km away and I popped it a quick burst from my long range size 4 multi. It was a blast! I synthed a few limpets and played vacuum cleaner while waiting for the next wave. I had so much fun, a nice way to finish out the evening.

I got back to the hanger, cashed in and was so happy with the Vette I bought her a new paint job! I might even fit her out and take over to do some life pod missions... Might be a bit slow for that though...
 
ooh i cant wait to take my new corvette to combat! i made somewhat acceptable build on edsy, put it into material helper and after some trading i need only 72 cracked industrial firmware and 97 modified consumer firmware :D
i too really cant be bothered with relog farming, so now im wondering if outfitting the vette will not take longer than getting it :)
 
If you're doing grade 5 heavy duty with deep plating on the hull and several amor protection modules... :eek:

I'm low because I done a heap ton of that recently. What's worse is that some of it was wasted like the Challenger build I did, no way to reclaim all the time and material on a hull that sits in storage, likely to never be used again.
 
I really need core dynamic composites so off to Fed Boom systems I went.

IF you want Core Dynamic Composites, why would you go in a Boom system? Boom is a source for Proto Radiolic Alloys and Proto Heat Radiators
So your chances to get CDC are reduced because invariably some HGE will contain PRA or PHR

Simply find a system with multiple fed factions, but none in boom/investment - and you'll have better chances to ger CDC, even then tho, they're quite a pain to get due to sharing the HGE with their G4 minions. Sure you can trade those Proprietary Composites to CDC, and i know the rates are atrocious - still better than not picking them up.
 
That's a piece of cake, passenger evacs lets you get a full stack of missions guaranteeing a few dozen modified embedded firmware rewards from each single run.
i just got to do a full run of some evacs and i certainly wouldnt call it a piece of cake. i modified my python so that it could handle scythes and got into a certified git gud moment right on the first jump :D but yea, i will be in the evac business for a while i guess :)
 
IF you want Core Dynamic Composites, why would you go in a Boom system? Boom is a source for Proto Radiolic Alloys and Proto Heat Radiators
So your chances to get CDC are reduced because invariably some HGE will contain PRA or PHR
Because Inara said so...

i just got to do a full run of some evacs and i certainly wouldnt call it a piece of cake. i modified my python so that it could handle scythes and got into a certified git gud moment right on the first jump :D but yea, i will be in the evac business for a while i guess :)
I forgot about that... Beyond the fact that you still need to do the relogo thing, I think I will stick to using the Corvette to harvest what I need. It definitely more fun!
 
Because Inara said so...
Well, guess what - Inara is plain wrong on this (it generally says systems in boom, etc) - HGEs depend on faction states, not System state
That makes a major difference and may explain Inara's confusion if Artie compiled that hint based on statistics alone

So you can have a system in Boom (because the leading faction is in boom), and in that system have a faction in civil unrest and get lucky enough to get Improvised Components from a HGE. from that faction.
As a result, Inara analyzing statistics will have a note: Improvised Components can be found in systems in Boom. Which is wrong and will lead to threads like these where people complain they cannot get materials, the game is messy grind, doom...

But if you want CDC, try a fed systems where fed factions have no states
Actually, scratch that - try fed systems where fed factions have no states or are in Civil unrest or are in Outbreak - lowering the change to get CDC for the chance to get Improvised components or Pharmaceutical Isolators is really worth it 😇
 
...As a result, Inara analyzing statistics will have a note: Improvised Components can be found in systems in Boom. Which is wrong and will lead to threads like these where people complain they cannot get materials, the game is messy grind, doom...
It's not wrong, it's just worded for the sake of simplicity. As far as I remember, FDev said that the number of occurrence is driven by the faction influence (with the desired state) and as there is expected the controlling faction has a biggest influence (and thus there is also the highest chance for getting the sought component) and as the state is also shown on the in-game map for the controlling faction, I keep the wording this way. :)
 
Well, guess what - Inara is plain wrong on this (it generally says systems in boom, etc) - HGEs depend on faction states, not System state
That makes a major difference and may explain Inara's confusion if Artie compiled that hint based on statistics alone

So you can have a system in Boom (because the leading faction is in boom), and in that system have a faction in civil unrest and get lucky enough to get Improvised Components from a HGE. from that faction.
As a result, Inara analyzing statistics will have a note: Improvised Components can be found in systems in Boom. Which is wrong and will lead to threads like these where people complain they cannot get materials, the game is messy grind, doom...

But if you want CDC, try a fed systems where fed factions have no states
Actually, scratch that - try fed systems where fed factions have no states or are in Civil unrest or are in Outbreak - lowering the change to get CDC for the chance to get Improvised components or Pharmaceutical Isolators is really worth it 😇
I've never understood why a USS is connected to any faction. It should tied be the systems state, it'd be much simpler that way.
 
I've never understood why a USS is connected to any faction. It should tied be the systems state, it'd be much simpler that way.

because there are multiple factions in a system, each with its state and each with a chance to generate a HGE

It's not wrong, it's just worded for the sake of simplicity. As far as I remember, FDev said that the number of occurrence is driven by the faction influence (with the desired state) and as there is expected the controlling faction has a biggest influence (and thus there is also the highest chance for getting the sought component) and as the state is also shown on the in-game map for the controlling faction, I keep the wording this way. :)

Still, the system state is taken from the leading faction state - and you have the perfect example in the OP.
They are disappointed that they went in a fed system in boom and they didnt got many Core Dynamics as expected - simply because some HGE had PRA or PHR due to the boom state on the leading faction instead of CDC

Also saying that HGE depends on system state is misleading (let's not say it's wrong) and limiting - since it depends on faction state, multiple factions in different states will generate various types of HGE according to the state.
No wonder people complain they dont find Pharmaceutical Isolators if they ignore the tens or hundreds of factions in Outbreak that are not the controlling faction.
I got my materials from obscure factions that have under 10% influence.
AND i use Inara to find them - check this older post of mine

For example - best chance to get Pharmaceutical Isolators are in an independent/alliance system with 1 or more factions in Outbreak, but no other states since any other state will have a better chance to generate a HGE with something else than PI.
 
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