Open Letter to Frontier Developments

Helmut Grokenberger

Helmut Grokenberger
To add another, totally irrelevant opinion to this topic: When I read the title, my first thought was "god, not another one", and when I read the post I thought "you gotta work on your PR". It's not about leaderboards. It's all about community presence.

AXI is AXI, there's no way around that. XSF, I had not heard about before Mechan started his pretty aggressive PR tour, and he's churned out quite a bit of stuff you could classify as helpful for the community. So he's made a name for himself and XSF. Your faction and squadron? I've never heard about. You've won the leaderboard, congratulations, but for "the community" this means very little. Sorry.

Life is hard. It's not the kid who finishes his assigned tasks first every time that gets a smile and a pat on the head from the teacher, it's the kid who brings them a shiny apple every day. I know that's unfair, but the lesson is: If you want a mention, make a name for yourself.

And as you can read from the other replies: Open letters have a bad history here. Also, Frontier isn't going to read them.
 

aRJay

aRJay
Helmut Grokenberger said:
To add another, totally irrelevant opinion to this topic: When I read the title, my first thought was "god, not another one", and when I read the post I thought "you gotta work on your PR". It's not about leaderboards. It's all about community presence.

AXI is AXI, there's no way around that. XSF, I had not heard about before Mechan started his pretty aggressive PR tour, and he's churned out quite a bit of stuff you could classify as helpful for the community. So he's made a name for himself and XSF. Your faction and squadron? I've never heard about. You've won the leaderboard, congratulations, but for "the community" this means very little. Sorry.
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I had the same reaction to the thread title.

The only reason I have any recent knowledge of the leaderboards as a non squadron player is that @Ian Doncaster posts them and I find his posts interesting to read.
 

Pville_Piper

Pville_Piper
varonica said:
Considering the second post was stating exactly that feeling, and there are so many people agreeing, maybe that should be a hint. Keep in mind there are people here who will click on anything just to find something to laugh at so the forum regulars like myself and Agony_Aunt aren't a recommendation for anything other than a, "this might be interesting" sentiment.
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Ah the good old days... Just need to post several final demands and we'll be good to go!
 

Pville_Piper

Pville_Piper
Helmut Grokenberger said:
To add another, totally irrelevant opinion to this topic: When I read the title, my first thought was "god, not another one", and when I read the post I thought "you gotta work on your PR". It's not about leaderboards. It's all about community presence.

AXI is AXI, there's no way around that. XSF, I had not heard about before Mechan started his pretty aggressive PR tour, and he's churned out quite a bit of stuff you could classify as helpful for the community. So he's made a name for himself and XSF. Your faction and squadron? I've never heard about. You've won the leaderboard, congratulations, but for "the community" this means very little. Sorry.

Life is hard. It's not the kid who finishes his assigned tasks first every time that gets a smile and a pat on the head from the teacher, it's the kid who brings them a shiny apple every day. I know that's unfair, but the lesson is: If you want a mention, make a name for yourself.

And as you can read from the other replies: Open letters have a bad history here. Also, Frontier isn't going to read them.
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Do they read, I believe they do, but they never respond to them...
 

Rat Catcher

Rat Catcher
The fault is all down to FD choosing to mention squadrons by name, rather than just mentioning the "Independent AX squadrons" as a blanket cover, of course a group of players who have ground their way to the top of some tables want recognition, particularly when all of the favour goes to those who make the most noise.
 

varonica

varonica
jackwall said:
Classic, OP writes about a particular topic.

The replies, (valid as they are), effectively derail the message for almost three pages (not every post granted).
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Exactly why you should never start a thread off with the title "Open Letter," this will happen every time. Star it with an informative title that grabs peoples attention, a thread title should always have some indication about the contents of the post, this one didn't, so everyone assumes the worst and either skips it or makes fun of it! In fact for many people the subject of the thread is "Open Letter", it says it in the title!
 

Screemonster

Screemonster
varonica said:
Exactly why you should never start a thread off with the title "Open Letter," this will happen every time. Star it with an informative title that grabs peoples attention, a thread title should always have some indication about the contents of the post, this one didn't, so everyone assumes the worst and either skips it or makes fun of it! In fact for many people the subject of the thread is "Open Letter", it says it in the title!
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gonna make a post in the suggestions forum titled "new suggestion" and wonder why it doesn't get any serious discussion
 

CMDR X

CMDR X
varonica said:
There's a long history of "Open Letters" on the forum such that most long time players see the title and immediately think, "Oh no, not again!" and skip straight past it. It might indeed be an "Open Letter" but putting that in the title almost guarantees 90% of players, and probably 100% of devs will just scroll straight past it. Also I didn't see any derision there, that's entirely your imagination, it was well meaning advice!
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If I see the title "Open Letter", I open it immediately!
 

varonica

varonica
Jack Winter said:
Personally when I see a title like that, I feel an immediate urge to click, derail, ridicule, troll, and / or white knight even without having read the open letter first! :D
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I must confess, I haven't actually read the open letter, maybe grabbed a few words to get the general gist that someone is unhappy because no-one clapped when they got an award but that's about it!
 

Sighman

Sighman
Rat Catcher said:
The fault is all down to FD choosing to mention squadrons by name, rather than just mentioning the "Independent AX squadrons" as a blanket cover, of course a group of players who have ground their way to the top of some tables want recognition, particularly when all of the favour goes to those who make the most noise.
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I don't think of the AXI as a squadron, just a very large group of players - some of which happen to belong to the AXI squadron.

It's like the Fuel Rats having a squadron (no idea if they do). The organisation is bigger than the squadron they might belong to.
 
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