Open Letter to the Prime Minister: Please clarify today's revelations

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Kuroshio said:
Premonition spoilers ahead:

It's probably helpful to see Salomé's Requiem as a synopsis of Premonition for those who don't read the book. The events she describes are covered in a lot more detail in there, and it doesn't matter if you consider her reliable source - those things are happening, they are described in an official lore novel. (This creates, of course, a lot of "out of character" knowledge for us players who have read it, making it a challenge to roleplay it.)

So in the end, it doesn't matter if the message is from her, or whether her character is reliable source. The information is solid, and her Requiem is just another way of getting this information to the players.
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I agree. The requiem s an excellent way to bring to the game, in game, some info of the book.

I am an Aisling supporter, because my character is an imperial anti slavery and reformist kind of people. The info about Aisling in this canon book, ans as is portrayed, my character that don't know, it should'nt be used for me. Even then, for me the freedom cause is bigger that the person that in public lead.

That issue with the Alliance, is even worst.

I'm really like reading Premonition, good book. And I reccomnend that book to any ED player. Also because this is THE canon book and up to date, that we have, by far
 
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CMDR Zadian Lichtfrost

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Infidel Deity said:
Do I read that Drew has butt-rammed The Alliance, in his book? :eek:
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No. There is just a difference between how some players imagined the Alliance and the way it gets (constantly) portrait by FD. Drew just used the official lore.

Edit/Addition - spoiler as it's about the book:

All figureheads of superpowers that appear in person in the book are portrait in a very favorable way. What those characters say about other characters can be far less favorable. Asling gets her share of very, very bad comments - but in the end that's just a description of how others think about her. Her actions doesn't portrait her the way others talk about her.
I think Drew Wagar did a good job in fleshing out the various characters while leaving some room for interpretation.
 
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CMDR Zadian Lichtfrost said:
No. There is just a difference between how some players imagined the Alliance and the way it gets (constantly) portrait by FD. Drew just used the official lore.

Edit/Addition - spoiler as it's about the book:

All figureheads of superpowers that appear in person in the book are portrait in a very favorable way. What those characters say about other characters can be far less favorable. Asling gets her share of very, very bad comments - but in the end that's just a description of how others think about her. Her actions doesn't portrait her the way others talk about her.
I think Drew Wagar did a good job in fleshing out the various characters while leaving some room for interpretation.
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I disagree. Is not only what they said about others, but even first person impressions, speeches, and characters portrayed, while the Salome encounters with them. I read galnet, books, im general lore for years. I know that the ED galaxy is a dark a dangerous one, it wasn't a secret. Drew W. has done a good job, precisely because the character of power play were so originally and archetipically flat, and apart from some interesting galnet news (more than one author?), they had (in general) a lack of interest. We have now a better organized and more realistic imperial high politics than before. That's make me really happy.

I agree with you, that the Alliance was ever a mess, as a second corporative power behind Fed. But that's not the point. The point it's that is finally been showed, for the first time, clearly, directly, in first person, how the Alliance really works. Not only selective readings based on political prejudicies of sceptical players (like me).

But I have serious doubts that the conspiracy people were the bad people. Maybe they are right ;)
 
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CMDR Zadian Lichtfrost said:
Not sure where you disagree with me.

And about the Alliance: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/225156-Governments-and-politics-in-Elite-Dangerous

Note the date. Nothing new about the Alliance was revealed in Premonitions in my opinion.

Ah, after rereading your comment - yes it probably was only something interested players would have known.
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Sorry for my so terrible English XD

I known that link, but thanks to reup. I was speaking about the behind the curtain politics, ethics, hidden agenda, soft power, power groups. Not so obvious state structures. Today you can have two countries in earth with in appearance the same kind of government, but in practice, they can be so different: law, ethics, religion, administration...

But yes, any info about about the Alliance political nature, was so scarced and so unstructured before, that in my, opinion this book is really a step forward to bring as a canonical general view.
 

CMDR Zadian Lichtfrost

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Sorry for my so terrible English XD
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Don't worry, I guess it's my terrible English that resulted in me not understanding :)

I agree that the book Premonition is very good in putting a lot of information in one place and giving it some structure - making it accessible for a wider audience (I hope).

In addition to that: I hope that FD comes up with a way to allow players to gather more informations about the lore in-game. While I understand the appeal of having to search for lore information, I think some parts of the lore should be much more obvious.
 

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CMDR Zadian Lichtfrost said:
Don't worry, I guess it's my terrible English that resulted in me not understanding :)

I agree that the book Premonition is very good in putting a lot of information in one place and giving it some structure - making it accessible for a wider audience (I hope).

In addition to that: I hope that FD comes up with a way to allow players to gather more informations about the lore in-game. While I understand the appeal of having to search for lore information, I think some parts of the lore should be much more obvious.
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True. When Power Play was first launched, I really enjoy that finally some lore was bring in game. It's a shame that almost nothing was added after. Only in some treasure hunting that is accomplished for a few. This game rich lore is unknown for most players, because is so irrelevant to play the game.
 

SubitusNex

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CMDR Zadian Lichtfrost said:
Not sure where you disagree with me.

And about the Alliance: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/225156-Governments-and-politics-in-Elite-Dangerous

Note the date. Nothing new about the Alliance was revealed in Premonitions in my opinion.

Ah, after rereading your comment - yes it probably was only something interested players would have known.
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No arguments there. I really like that post and it clearly sets up a good structure (though using the name Council member for Assembly delegates and then using the name Council of Admirals generated a lot of confusion, even within FD).

As an example here's a GalNet News article:
https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/5788c3c09657ba0207588b5a

Which clearly says:
"The Council of Admirals is a six-person body comprising the leaders of the six largest military forces in the Alliance. In addition to selecting the prime minister, the Council also commands the Alliance Defence Force, a vast flotilla of ships contributed by each of the Alliance's member systems. The Council of Admirals is free to deploy the Defence Force without the approval of the Assembly, making it extremely powerful."

Particularly the "In addition to selecting the prime minister" which according to the first post is not how it works, there The Prime Minister is elected by the Members (of the Assembly).

This to me is part of the crux of the problem. FDEV doesn't do things clearly, particularly when we talk about the Alliance. I'm sure Premonition sheds some light on this (which is in my book queue now, and I like the things you guys are saying about it) but we need this more clear in the game.

Edit: This is also why my character is unsure if he should to petition the Council or the Assembly. Which is utterly ridiculous, it should clearly be the assembly because the Council is there only for the Defense. Particularly, for the alliance to react fast to aggression and attack swiftly, rather than having to wait for the bureaucracy.
 
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