Opinion: PP wasn't what I wanted, taking a break

Sentience

Sentience
For me (emphasis on ME), PP didn't offer me what I had hoped for.

I'm a poor pilot who needs credits to get bigger ships and unfortunately PP is not a way to make money. In fact you lose money because the cash rewards don't cover fuel, ammo, or repair while running missions.

Many might say "just do regular missions" but those missions are the same ones I've been grinding over, and over, and over....I thought PP would be a welcome change but it's just the same missions now tied in to a loose lore background.

ED is a great cockpit sumulator with great physics and special effects, but once you strip that away there just isn't much beneath the surface.
As someone else said it best, ED is a mile long inch deep lake.
Deceptively large to explore, but the bottom is very shallow.

I used to play EVE, which had story line missions, a working player economy, guilds and corporations, player bases, manufacturing, research, an inventory, and player trading.

Every time I play ED I'm increasingly frustrated I can't even trade some Platinum to a friend directly in a station, even though I'm allowed to jettison it and let him scoop it.
The social restrictions in ED are bizarre, and too restrictive for me to enjoy it like I want to.

I know many enjoy ED immensely and they enjoy PP too, which is great since a lot of work went into it.
But for me I need more then some lore fluff to fill in all the gaps that this game has from an MMO standpoint.

Hopefully the next major content patch will bring something else to the table that gives the game some freshness.
 

CreepyD

C
You don't have to play PP content though - just carry doing what ever you were doing before and completely ignore it.

The systems I'm at are 100 LY away from any power.
I tried PP and don't think it's balanced yet, but I'll just carry on doing other things until it is.

A break can do good though, I took a few months off myself.
 

Titus Balls

Titus Balls
Fly safe commander o7

Hopefully see you on the other side of this fine mess

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stocko1111

S
I'm with you here. I've not played since the first day of powerplay. It's not the game I want it to be at the moment, but this isn't a whine or a complaint. I still check the forums and have a huge interest in the game, I've backed it since Beta, but right now I want what the game isn't offering.

I want secret stations, deserted and derelict ships, I want to scavenge the wreckage of huge battlefields and to find more than just stars' and planets' statistics when I go exploring.

I hope the game does develop in the way I want it to and I'm glad most are enjoying it. I'll come back from time to time to check on the game, I've definitely got my money's worth so far that's for sure!
 

Trader Pat

Trader Pat
Agreeing with the OP. I have not fired ED in a month, just keeping abreast of the updates and a peek or 2 in the forums. PP is probably great, though does not really get me salivating. My play time has shrunk a lot due to workload. Well, I'll see in September how things are going.
 

Katkon

K
You don't NEED credits NOR ships. You WANT both. And because PP doesn't get you either of those quickly, you're unhappy with the game. That's my takeaway. I honestly think you're focused on the wrong things, and this is why you're running out of steam. Wrong things = objectives that force you to 'grind' furiously because you won't be happy until you're in a big ship. Right things = activities that you actually enjoy. Also just my opinion, of course.
 
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I and I Redeye

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I feel for you OP.
I am disappointed too with PP. It's good but not what I thought it would bring to the game.

I will continue playing till I run out of credits.
Not long to go now.
 

Skellen

Skellen
For me PP is a total waste of time, all the merit missions should just come under the normal ranking and mission structure of the game for which side you have chosen to be on.
But then I also think being allied with more than one power is a joke, you either choose to be Federation, Empire, or Alliance.(That use to be the beauty of the old game as you had more than one commander slot)
As for obtaining certain ships that is unique with that power, then that should be the benefit of going with them. Or you could have all the ships sold in certain dictatorships, but then showing on your target display that you are not allied to that power and then you can become wanted by them for using the ship illegally.
Over all PP has put a downer on the game for me, and I hope by not choosing a power will affect my game play in any way in the future.
 

andywragg

A
I dipped into power play and am now out. For an occassional player like myself it detracts from the playing experience significantly. All my game time was spent in a Fed Military strike (a glorified CZ) to garner merits, with absolutely no financial reward. 1 merit for taking out any ship big or small, doesn't make sense. Even the prep missions were a bust once I got there to realise you need to have cargo space to carry 'intel' (??), and my vulture doesn't have cargo space. I know its early days but like so many I'm very disappointed. Now back to my day job as a none aligned Merc/Bounty hunter.
 

Obsidian Ant

Obsidian Ant
I'm with you on this Sentience. Powerplay takes Elite in completely the wrong direction to where I personally wanted it to head.

Maybe the next few patches - or even an expansion will helps things.
 

I and I Redeye

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Katkon said:
You don't NEED credits NOR ships. You WANT both. And because PP doesn't get you either of those quickly, you're unhappy with the game. That's my takeaway. I honestly think you're focused on the wrong things, and this is why you're running out of steam. Wrong things = objectives that force you to 'grind' furiously because you won't be happy until you're in a big ship. Right things = activities that you actually enjoy. Also just my opinion, of course.
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He's not saying that.
He wants to play an mmo and ED is not giving him that.
He's not saying ED is bad, it just not giving him what he needs or expects from an mmo.
 

Nicodemus

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You are comparing Elite to EvE. So comparing a game that has many many years of content and expansion to a game that has only been live for 6 months is your first mistake. As someone who played EvE in Beta and in live, I can assure you that the first year of EvE was devoid of a lot of what you wish this game to have, in fact this game is more advanced in what you can do in 6 months than EvE ever was. As for struggling to make cash, you are doing something wrong, as making money is stupidly easy. Anyhow, enjoy your break and I hope you find what you are looking for when you come back.
 

Euan Neo

Euan Neo
I think people should stop expecting Elite to be a one size fits all, covering everything titantic game. I'd rather have an expert in one field, than a jack of all trades.

I think Elite does Space Flying and Combat very well. Even the PVP combat is very balanced and tactical. Not fast and spammy like some other space games. Its skilled based and also tactical which i love. There are some glaring issues around the restricted number on servers- imagine if 50 to 100 players could sync at once. However we should focus on the strengths. The combat and flying model is pretty good.

I think variety is key to give the game more depth, and its not a massive amount of work.

Having had more say in development i would have ensured that each activity had at least 10 variations so the whole galaxy isn't just duplicates of itself.
for example, Combat Zones could have 10 standard maps/layouts instead of ONE

So you could have capture the flag type mode, wave based survival co-op mode, Destroy the enemy massive ship (2 big ships and you wear down health of one),
combat zones close to surface/stations with lots of 'buildings' and pieces of texture to avoid and fight between , inside a ship combat zone, long distance combat zone where each side spawns some distance away and fights break out in the centre, so much ideas but why is there just one style of doing everything?
 

Ervig

Ervig
I die a little inside when I hear the advice to 'just ignore powerplay'. It is the advice I would like to give OP, but I feel sad about it. Powerplay has the chance to be lots of fun, also for casual players. But currently it is not..
 

Ceeege

Ceeege
Granite said:
I'm with you on this Sentience. Powerplay takes Elite in completely the wrong direction to where I personally wanted it to head.

Maybe the next few patches - or even an expansion will helps things.
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^This

I'd be very interested to see some stats on how Powerplay has been received by the community. How many Commanders are actively engaging in Powerplay vs those abstaining (playing 1.2 features only) vs those who've logged on since 1.3, sniffed about, shrugged shoulders and logged out again.

I backed at KS Alpha level and loved every minute of the development but was then really disappointed after Beta ended to see ED going live with exactly the same gameplay. No great mountain of new features to explore. As many threads have mentioned it's just lacking content.

Surely a concerted effort by Frontier of listening to the community and what they'd love to see in the near term in ED to enhance interest in what is a great framework. As DB said back in the Beta phase, "We built the foundations, we built the walls, we plastered it, we put the roof on. We're now putting the furniture in, but it's an empty house."

Unfortunately, that still stands today.
 

Skeloton

Skeloton
FalconFly said:
You actually seem to fit the profile to make decent money with Mining.
Take a decent Refinery, a 1A Collector Internals and one or two Class2 Mining Laser(s).
Fill ~50-70% of your Cargo space with Limpets and head either into Aasgananu (Palladium-rich) or HIP 69793 (Platinum-rich) which are the best locations I know.
HIP 69793-1 and HIP 69793-2 inner Rings a Pristine Metallic Belts (the outer Rings are Pristine Metal-Rich).

Upon filling your Hold, head to various Refinery/Extraction Stations and check the Bulletin Board for mining-type Missions.
These frequently offer excellent prices for very low amounts of various Metals/Minerals.
Especially if you managed to get a ton of Painite - sell it into one of these Missions to get serious Credits.
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I might try that. After I got my Rating 4 secured, got less that 509 to go provided I get still to be redeemed merits home alive. Might turn my DBExplorer into a miner.
 
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