Option to Disable Color Grading

[Deebz__]

For the most part, 3.3 brings some very welcome additions to the game. The new exploration and mining mechanics, the Codex, and the new interesting anomalies that it can lead you to... all of that is great. Unfortunately, it is all overshadowed by one of the new features.

The color grading.

Please give us an option in the graphics menu to disable the color grading.

That is all I am asking for. The rest of the graphical updates come together to form an overall improvement to what we had before. However, the color grading just absolutely ruins the look of this game in my eyes, to the point of making me not want to play it anymore. Especially since it looked fine before this update.

I understand that this technique may be relied on in the future to give a certain feel to new areas to come, and I do not care. Whatever benefits that may come from having a full screen color filter are not worth the degraded visual quality that these techniques inevitably produce, at least for me.

To the users reading this: if you agree, please say so here, where Frontier is most likely to see it. If you don’t agree, then no action is needed. I understand that some people genuinely do like the new look. However, if color grading is made into a graphics option, everyone can be happy.

EDIT: I wanted to add a screenshot to get my point across a bit better. This screenshot was taken a fair distance away from a brown dwarf, and it was positioned under my ship. Any light coming from the dwarf should be occluded by my ship in this view. However, the screen is still covered in this color grading, which is even affecting the galactic background in a highly unrealistic way. This is what I want to be able to turn off.

 

[Greasetrap42]

It might depend on the hardware being used to play the game. I like it. It seems more realistic to me. Sometimes it looks like my windscreen needs cleaning, which is exactly like my car IRL. The blooming of the light on the windscreen obscures my view a bit but definitely not as bad as my car driving towards sunset in the evening.

 

[Deebz__]

It has nothing to do with hardware. It is a post processing color filter. Check the screenshot I edited into my first post.

 

[Greasetrap42]

" ... if you agree, please say so here, where Frontier is most likely to see it. If you don’t agree, then no action is needed.... "

So you are a fan of highly biased threads. You aren't looking for feedback or opinions. Only want to here from people that agree with you. okay.

So really you want a one sided poll based on the number of responses.

 

[Deebz__]

What are you trying to accomplish here? There is nothing to debate. It is a simple request to have the ability to turn the color filtering off. If you like it the filtering, you are not affected by anything in this thread. Just continue to play, while those of us who can’t stand this new feature can hopefully get the ability to disable it.

This color grading is quite frankly impacting my ability to enjoy the game, and it will affect my purchasing decisions going forward if we are not given the ability to disable it.

 

[Braandlin]

I have mixed views on the new lighting effects. Mostly i like them but on occassions they are a little garish.

Deebz : The problem you have is not whether or not people agree with you, it's the fact that you have explicitly stated that you don't want to hear from those who don't agree with you. And frankly in an open discussion forum which is broadly unregulated that is at best naive and at worst an attempt to portray only one side of the debate. You don't get to make comments on an open forum and then dictate who can reply.

Finally your suggestion that if frontier implement your idea then people have the option so it doesn't impact anyone is simply not true. Your request may take ten minutes to implement or it may take 1,000 hours. If the later then i for one would be strenuously debating that they spent that time on other things.

 

[Garris]

I'm in on this. It is NOT my monitor. I will NOT change my perfectly calibrated monitor for one game. As it stands now a game I once enjoyed is unplayable due to massive eyestrain and subsequent headaches.

 

[Bob Lighthouse]

Have you tried adjusting the in game gamma slider?
Turning it almost all the way down made a world of difference for me.

 

[Deebz__]

Finally your suggestion that if frontier implement your idea then people have the option so it doesn't impact anyone is simply not true. Your request may take ten minutes to implement or it may take 1,000 hours. If the later then i for one would be strenuously debating that they spent that time on other things.

Post processing is so simple that just about any modern game can have it injected via a global injector such as Reshade. Not to mention that in Fdev’s original showing of the color grading, the before and afterscreenshots showed a difference on the HUD clock of a few seconds. Look, I understand that not everyone knows what all is involved with this stuff. However, for those of us who have experience working with the internals of games, we know that it can simply be disabled with no drama. It would not take anywhere near 1,000 hours. Honestly I’d be surprised if it even took 1 hour for the people with the source code to this game to add this as an option.

As for the first part of your post... once again... there is nothing to debate here. It is a simple request for Frontier to give us the ability to turn off a post processing effect. I don’t care if some people like it. That is not what this is about. All that matters is how many people want this option. Get it? I didn’t want this to turn into yet another thread with people bickering about what they like better... just wanted it to be a simple petition to Frontier to show them the demand for tgis toggle. But here we are anyway. Maybe I could have worded it better, I don’t know.

Have you tried adjusting the in game gamma slider?
Turning it almost all the way down made a world of difference for me.

This has nothing to do with gamma. Gamma controls the level of brightness of an image, not how saturated a post processing “instagram filter” is. The only way to get rid of this would be for Frontier to add it as an option, which is what I am here for.

 

[Bob Lighthouse]

This has nothing to do with gamma. Gamma controls the level of brightness of an image, not how saturated a post processing “instagram filter” is. The only way to get rid of this would be for Frontier to add it as an option, which is what I am here for.

Did you try it?
It changed the hues entirely for me.
It takes seconds to try...

 

[Braandlin]

As for the first part of your post... once again... there is nothing to debate here. It is a simple request for Frontier to give us the ability to turn off a post processing effect. I don’t care if some people like it. That is not what this is about. All that matters is how many people want this option. Get it?

There is plenty to debate. You are on an open forum. You don't get to tell people what they can and can't discuss. What matters is how many people want it out of the toyal player base and therefore whether FD think it is somehting they believe is worth doing GEt it? (see i can be sarcastic and patronising too)

 

[Deebz__]

Did you try it?
It changed the hues entirely for me.
It takes seconds to try...

You can bet I tried everything I could... I tried the ingame gamma slider, I tried Reshade’s gamma slider, I tried to counter the game’s color grading with reshade, and I even tried to dig into the XML files to see if I could adjust anything there. No luck. That is why I am here asking for this feature to be made into a toggle...

(see i can be sarcastic and patronising too)

Yeah I get it, you think it could take up to 1000 hours for Fdev to give players the ability to change a 1 to a 0. Reality is that it would take almost no time at all, and it would make plenty of people happy. I know this, Fdev knows this, and this thread is only here to serve as a request for them to take a minute to add that. Throwing around crazy theories that it would be this huge undertaking that would detract from future content is just annoying.

 

[Bob Lighthouse]

You can bet I tried everything I could... I tried the ingame gamma slider, I tried Reshade’s gamma slider, I tried to counter the game’s color grading with reshade, and I even tried to dig into the XML files to see if I could adjust anything there. No luck. That is why I am here asking for this feature to be made into a toggle...

It was a simple question/suggestion.
No need to get bent out of shape!

It helped me tremendously.

They toned down the effects after 2.4 so I would not be surprised to see an adjustment.
I'd support more graphics options for sure, especially HUD colors.

 

[Greasetrap42]

I'm in on this. It is NOT my monitor. I will NOT change my perfectly calibrated monitor for one game. As it stands now a game I once enjoyed is unplayable due to massive eyestrain and subsequent headaches.

Ha ha ha ha ha! This is a true LOL. I can hardly type! All I can say is.... just.... okay, no words. Was Garris post sarcasm?

Okay, I calmed down...
I apologize, maybe there are people with legit eye issues where this causes a problem. I don't know. If its really that bad for you then really should not play the game.

 

[Deebz__]

Eye strain is certainly something that could apply with these color filters. There’s a good post in another thread that can show just how hard the HUD can be to read with this stuff. You can see that here.

 

[Greasetrap42]

Oh, so you did know there were other threads on the same topic...

 

[Deebz__]

None that I can see in the suggestions/feature requests forum. That’s why I posted here. For some reason, it seems like Fdev would sooner check a place like this for suggestions or feature requests, rather than pick through a general discussion forum.

 

[Martind Forlon]

I also want support OP feature request ... I'm sorry FDEv, but this game looks now better (for my eyes) on my low budget laptop with integrated GK as on my gaming PC with max detail and 1070 Ti (which I have upgraded to enjoy ED ... ironic isn't it?) ... this HUD colour washed now is simply pain to use!!!!! I would be ok if this is applied outside of ship, but have it on everything ... *sigh*

 

[Garris]

Ha ha ha ha ha! This is a true LOL. I can hardly type! All I can say is.... just.... okay, no words. Was Garris post sarcasm?

Okay, I calmed down...
I apologize, maybe there are people with legit eye issues where this causes a problem. I don't know. If its really that bad for you then really should not play the game.

Glad you got a chuckle, if we cant laugh in life what's left.
Nope I was serious, the thing hurts my eyes now. I'm old got ol mans eyes.

 

[Martind Forlon]

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/464405-HUD-colours-bleak-colours-lack-of-sharpness