Orca thrusters; 5A vs 6A
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I have 2 Orca - one with 6A and one with 5A thrusters and the speed is about the same.
The one with 5A thrusters is also configured differently, so I'd have to actually swap between them to see if speed doesn't change, but I can confirm that you can build an Orca with 5A thrusters that will boost over 550M/S with the proper mods and outfitting, get great range, and be very good at passenger missions.
The one with 5A thrusters is also configured differently, so I'd have to actually swap between them to see if speed doesn't change, but I can confirm that you can build an Orca with 5A thrusters that will boost over 550M/S with the proper mods and outfitting, get great range, and be very good at passenger missions.
The gain is going to be very limited unless you somehow make your Orca weigh a lot. It does exist though, to some small extent. You can use Coriolis to click on "Profiles" which will show the actual difference in graphs. I can say that, generally speaking, expensive thrusters only tend to be worthwhile in combat craft, where the extra few % actually matters.
There may be some sort of "hard cap" induced by other variables (weight/mass, etc.). I just went into Coriolis, changed to 6A, read the values then switched to 5A and compared them. I'm assuming something else is holding it back for you.
I have it set up very light... only 4D low emission shields, 2A overcharged power supply, 3A enhanced distributor
There seems to be a hard cap at under 420 tons, and my ship comes in at just under 400. https://eddp.co/u/8NHzCcXG
Even when I add the 6A and engineer it, it will not go faster than the 5A. Maybe if I add 50t
There seems to be a hard cap at under 420 tons, and my ship comes in at just under 400. https://eddp.co/u/8NHzCcXG
Even when I add the 6A and engineer it, it will not go faster than the 5A. Maybe if I add 50t
I have it set up very light... only 4D low emission shields, 2A overcharged power supply, 3A enhanced distributor
There seems to be a hard cap at under 420 tons, and my ship comes in at just under 400. https://eddp.co/u/8NHzCcXG
Even when I add the 6A and engineer it, it will not go faster than the 5A. Maybe if I add 50t
Hey, worth a shot!
Keep us informed, would love to see if that solves it Haha, nah, it doesn't help, but the speed stays the same So now we have to ask FDev to remove the speed limiter for the next patch.
Pff, the orca is amazing. My Asp can boost to just over 500m/s, but with the same setup the Orca will push 570. It also stays cooler when scooping. Same 46-50ly range... This is an F1 version of the AspX. I maybe have my new favorite ship.
So now we have to ask FDev to remove the speed limiter for the next patch.Pff, the orca is amazing. My Asp can boost to just over 500m/s, but with the same setup the Orca will push 570. It also stays cooler when scooping. Same 46-50ly range... This is an F1 version of the AspX. I maybe have my new favorite ship.
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Haha, nah, it doesn't help, but the speed stays the same
Pff, the orca is amazing. My Asp can boost to just over 500m/s, but with the same setup the Orca will push 570. It also stays cooler when scooping. Same 46-50ly range... This is an F1 version of the AspX. I maybe have my new favorite ship.
My AspX jumps 55ly. It's far slower for sure, but when a ship spends 99% of it's time in Supercruise, does it really matter? Horses for courses is the reality.
I'm just looking for an all-round enjoyable ship. I've been flying two Asp Explorers for 90% of the game so far, and the Orca is just refreshing. I'm playing around outfitting it and just wondered if it would have any benefit to go for 6A Thrusters vs the 5A I pulled from one of my Asp Explorers, but it seems there is no benefit.
BTW: The Dolphin has the same behavior between 4A and 5A when engineered.
BTW: The Dolphin has the same behavior between 4A and 5A when engineered.
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Have been flying USC Free Willy to Maia to engineer it's own thrusters.. this thing stays so cool when scooping compared to the Asp/ My asp would always be on the edge, nearing 78% heat, the Orca never went over 66% with the 5A scoop. Also, very cool, is that the Orca does not have problems slowing down like the Asp does, way more agile in the maneuvering regard. You should really try it out, Achibot. The AspX was by far my favorite, but this ship is really an upgrade. Yeah, 7x the price, but most core modules just go from Asp to Orca.
You have to keep in mind that the Orca originally had a hull mass of 580 tons, so it needed class 6 thrusters to move reasonably well. In a typical FDev balancing act the hull mass was cut down to 50%, going straight from "a bit too heavy" to "way too light".
Now it's similar to Anaconda in having a very light hull for its size, which means it works perfectly fine with undersized modules that are mass dependent (thrusters, shield).
Now it's similar to Anaconda in having a very light hull for its size, which means it works perfectly fine with undersized modules that are mass dependent (thrusters, shield).
If you check the values in outfitting, you will see that all sizes of A rated thrusters have the same "multiplier" values and what differs are the minimum, optimal and maximum mass.
If your ship's total mass (including all modules and cargo) is below the thruster's minimum mass value, your ship is going max speed and can't go any faster. Using a bigger thruster doesn't make any difference since you will also be below minimum mass, and using the same multiplier value. It will reduce your jump range though since the bigger thruster is heavier, and will use more power. So if your ship is light enough, definitely use a smaller thruster.
Same experience.
Orca is so fast it doesn't really matter what thrusters you fit, but my Dolphin is faster with 4A thrusters than it is with 5A - go figure.
I will have to check that out. In my experiences tho the speed difference between the 6D and 5A tend to be comparible enough that I don't notice.
In the case of the Orca, its typically a minimal speed difference thanks to it being so light anyway.
If you check Coriolis profiles for the engine you will see it caps out, so adding bigger thrusters only adds weight and not top speed. Both Orca and Dolphin have this effect, so the best thruster would be the A rated one size down (5A Orca, 4A Dolphin). I'm running a 33%/-7% G5 DD in my Orca now and it handles like a dream with a boost of around 578-580; insane.
