Ouch. My eyes!

Well.....my computer came in today. The shipping said it wasn't going to be here until the 25th so I was pleasantly surprised. When I picked it up from the store I also grabbed an Oculus and a vive

After spending the better part of a day setting up my pc, setting up accounts, downloading games, and trying to remember passwords..... I was ready to try the Oculus (vive tomorrow) with elite.

I gotta say....it totally blew my expectations away. But that is another conversation. I didn't do a whole lot except get my control set and do the first training mission in a sidewinder. It took me quite a while and by the time I was done I was feeling some major eye fatigue.

I'm going to try tomorrow without my glasses and also with a different pair of glasses. But I wanted to ask if anyone had any tips and tricks for reducing eye fatigue.
 
If you wear glasses for reading then you won't need them in the rift. However if you're short sighted then you'll need them. Very important in either case to make sure the IPD is correct. Eye stain shouldn't be an issue.
 
I don't need my glasses at all in my vive, in fact image is better without. But yes, check the IDP setting, very important had a lot of problems with that in the beginning before I had it set correctly.
 
Eye stain shouldn't be an issue.

The spice must flow.

Hehe.

On topic - take it easy - don't expect to dive into either the Rift or the Vive and go for hours and hours straight off the bat. Measure yourself and make sure you stop when eye strain sets in - as others have said here that can be due to incorrect IPD - use the Oculus IPD screen (in the options). Once you remember the number it gives you you can reset it fairly easlity if it gets changed.

Same goes for motion sickness/nausea - take it slowly and don't push it if you feel ill/woozy etc. Take breaks and don't try too much in the first few days... ease into it.
 
Well.....my computer came in today. The shipping said it wasn't going to be here until the 25th so I was pleasantly surprised. When I picked it up from the store I also grabbed an Oculus and a vive

Well done commander!

In regards to they eye fatigue, with out glasses (contact lenses) i dont experience any eye fatigue. I can use the Rift for several hours wo any issues. I tend to forget time actually. The vive is heavier, but its the same screen close to the eyes kinda thing.

And a pro tip, rember to blink. For real. Blinking is more natural in real life than in VR. And not wearing glasses reduces the heat and stuff on your face. That may help as well. And IPD, measure that correctly.
 
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Craith

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apart from setting up your IPD correctly and getting used to it (a training effect) low frames can also lead to eye strain ... I know that I had to lower my settings a bit from the first VR showcase to playable over long times
 
Easy fix.

I tore out my eyes and replaced them with cybernetic ocular replacement modules.

But then I never really had eye relief issues... But then again, I wear contacts. You always try that.
 
you get used to it, made my eyes tired for the first week or so

This ^. Pause, when you feel the slightest form of fatigue, eye pressure or nausea. After a few weeks you can do 2 - 3 hour sessions without problem. Now, after a few months, i can wear the Rift for an indefinite amount of time... i even did 6 hour sessions without pause. Dont haste it :)
 
And here I felt VR was more relaxing for my eyes from the jump.
But that might have more to do with the lack of the Eyex tracker, with that I had to be super focused in how and where I looked at it until I learned to relax about it.

As for glasses it depends.

If you are Myopic (near sighted) you will need them.
Contacts is a better option, if you can handle that.
If you are hyperopic then you lucky s can go ahead and enjoy that.
 
I can confirm it is all about training and getting used to it. The first two weeks I could not play more than an hour, now after a month I can play as long as I want, just like the old regular monitor sessions. By the way I suggest to take a break every now and then to make your eyes/neck/ears/skin rest a bit. Even if you are well trained VR nerd ;)

I would add that the right hardware/software setup is very essential for a healty experience. Make shure you have the best FPS you can, IPD correction is a must and check out some VR friendly GUI colour sets.
This is the one I'm experimenting with this days and works very good with me. It is a desaturated version of the original GUI color set, plus white-to-green conversion:

http://arkku.com/elite/hud_editor/#theme_0.5_0_-0.5_-0.95_1_-0.75_0.17_0.31_1

Got it from the Elite Profiler app. You should also tune down UI brightnes in the right ingame panel to 2 or 3.
 
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Avoid SRV in VR on hilly terrain (at speed) until you get used to the motion.

Also turn on the three SRV anti-nausea settings. Helps a lot.
 
Well.....my computer came in today. The shipping said it wasn't going to be here until the 25th so I was pleasantly surprised. When I picked it up from the store I also grabbed an Oculus and a vive

After spending the better part of a day setting up my pc, setting up accounts, downloading games, and trying to remember passwords..... I was ready to try the Oculus (vive tomorrow) with elite.

I gotta say....it totally blew my expectations away. But that is another conversation. I didn't do a whole lot except get my control set and do the first training mission in a sidewinder. It took me quite a while and by the time I was done I was feeling some major eye fatigue.

I'm going to try tomorrow without my glasses and also with a different pair of glasses. But I wanted to ask if anyone had any tips and tricks for reducing eye fatigue.

I'm a few days behind you, I should be getting my new PC/Rift on Wednesday....can't wait lol.
 
First thing to do is find a HUD colour scheme that makes reading easy, and spend a while fiddling with the graphics settings, gamma, reducing god rays, all go a long way to reducing eye strain. The rest you build a tolerance too, I used to get queezy after the little twist at the end of a jump, now I can stay in for a few hours at a time no problem. As already said, take it easy in the SRV, that thing can make you hurl.
 

Craith

Volunteer Moderator
Avoid SRV in VR on hilly terrain (at speed) until you get used to the motion.

Also turn on the three SRV anti-nausea settings. Helps a lot.

I agree, the SRV is more intensive than flying ... but be careful with the fixed horizon setting ... it's good until you make a corkscrew or looping ( voluntary or not) ... then it is very disorienting.
 
If you are new to VR you should be taking breaks anyway. Make sure the lenses don't fog up. Keep them nice and polished. I use a deskfan pointed at my face to mitigate the heating of the headset.

And take a bit of time when putting on the headset to find just the right sweetspot, to make the display as clear as possible.
 
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