Outbreeding the inbred.

Now, don't get me wrong. I think this inbreeding thing is a pile of horse manure. It's pure psychological, and just a message, nothing more. My trade storage is full, so I can't get around it. I can't buy new animals, unless I sell all my animals for cheap. Maybe I will fail in my project and do that anyway.

I have 3 habitats with wild dogs. They are all family of each other. In each of them lives a brother and a sister. Now, if inbreeding disgusts you, you better get away now. I start a new paragraph, so you have one line to get away.

I start inbreeding my dog habitats separately, and the first 5 generations they will never meet. In the sixth generation I will place a male and a female together to see if the "inbreed" message will still pop up, and how the young dogs will be.

This "inbreed" message is spoiling the game. There is no fun in that message, and it is taking this whole game way to serious. If this inbreeding is a real thing in PZ, you can expect a whole lot of inbred animals on the market in the future, because the number of animals on the market are to low compared to the number of players in the game. This means there are not many breeders out there who actually buy and sell their animals.

At the game's launch I bought 4 warthogs, 1 male and 3 females. I am still breeding with the offspring of their offspring, of their offspring, and those animals have great stats. Not all of them, but enough to believe this "inbreed" thing is a myth. Just fabricated by some zealots (If you are one of them, you should have been gone when this paragraph started).

My goal is to check if I can outbreed that message, not the inbreed.
 
All it takes is two habitats to avoid inbreeding...children of the 1st will always be able to mate with children of the second without inbreeding because the game only tracks 2 generations, the current one and parentage. I don't get what you're even saying, are you saying it's a problem? Or that it's not even a big deal?

I'm just not understanding your talk about sixth generation and seeing if the inbreed message will still pop up when it would be gone well before 6 generations if you measure generations accurately rather than just by number of litters/births.
 
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All it takes is two habitats to avoid inbreeding...children of the 1st will always be able to mate with children of the second without inbreeding because the game only tracks 2 generations, the current one and parentage. I don't get what you're even saying, are you saying it's a problem? Or that it's not even a big deal?

I'm just not understanding your talk about sixth generation and seeing if the inbreed message will still pop up when it would be gone well before 6 generations if you measure generations accurately rather than just by number of litters/births.

It doesn't exist, but that is just my uneducated opinion. By testing this, I will consider it an educated opinion.

A sixth generation, will be the children of the children into the sixth degree, while always select the best for breeding. The message should be gone when I place two sixth generation dogs together to see if the game still considers it inbreeding with a message. It's all about the message, not the actual inbreeding.
Maybe you still don't understand it? Sorry, I can't explain it better. I am not a good teacher and I am not doing it to teach.

Remember, they are still family, though they grew up in different habitats.
 
Do you have a screenshot of that message?

Never seen a message appear, and in my Zoo all animals are fully inbreds (due to a mistake I made that actually made my balance go to -500.000.)

I don't sell them for CP on the market though, that's not my intention.
 
Combining the "best" isn't always the best option, the genetics dont' work that way for all of the gene types.

Some are additive genes (size and longevity) and some are diversity genes (fertility and immunity). This is completely independent of inbreeding, so it's not all about "how great are the genes of this animal". It's why I don't complain about the prices on the market, I usually can find great mates for my own good-gene offspring buying up the cheap "bad" ones.
 
Inbreeding DOES cause the animals to be lower quality. And I have first hand experience with that. So... 🤷🏼‍♀️ The devs have even said so? Like lmao, it was written or said in one of the streams, it isn’t something a random person just started saying. The stats of the animals are affected.
 
Inbreeding DOES cause the animals to be lower quality. And I have first hand experience with that. So... 🤷🏼‍♀️ The devs have even said so? Like lmao, it was written or said in one of the streams, it isn’t something a random person just started saying. The stats of the animals are affected.
Well, at least the message doesn't seem to repeat itself anymore. I am already in the third generation inbreeds, and all it says is that they are about to mate. That is cool. :)
I already know they are brother and sister. I don't need it rubbed in my face.
And if it really exists, you better be careful what you buy in the marked. Don't click to fast.
 
If this inbreeding is a real thing in PZ, you can expect a whole lot of inbred animals on the market in the future,
But the market is already full of animals that have terrible genes most likely because of inbreeding?! Depends on the species though, but I've seen a huge amount of terrible peafowls. I think that's because people don't really care about them, so they get inbred a lot.

the game only tracks 2 generations, the current one and parentage.

I haven't tested this but I have the suspicion that some couples that aren't related closely enough to trigger the inbreeding message still give worse genes than completely unrelated animals. Sometimes I've seen two animals with great genes but the compare mates screen gave a range going down very far for 1 or 2 genes but did not give me the inbreeding warning. Or what is this phenomenon?
 
I haven't tested this but I have the suspicion that some couples that aren't related closely enough to trigger the inbreeding message still give worse genes than completely unrelated animals. Sometimes I've seen two animals with great genes but the compare mates screen gave a range going down very far for 1 or 2 genes but did not give me the inbreeding warning. Or what is this phenomenon?

See my previous post in this thread, or the in game explanation of how the genes work. This is not related to inbreeding at all but the result of 2 of the genes being diversity genes and not additive genes. The effect is basically that a mated pair who both have awesome stats for the diversity genes will lead to offspring where it is very likely to be bad results for those genes because the mated pair are not diverse enough.
 
I have about 20 lions, all around 3 or 4x100. They are all inbreeds, I am sure. Many of their brethren and sisters have been bad, but they have given me many good offspring, of which a majority of females. I'm keeping them in my storage until they become part of an event. Nobody will suspect them of being inbreeds :devilish:

I'd quit my experiment with the dogs and released them into the wilds. The inbreed message seems to be patched out from spamming.
 
Do you have a screenshot of that message?

Never seen a message appear, and in my Zoo all animals are fully inbreds (due to a mistake I made that actually made my balance go to -500.000.)

I don't sell them for CP on the market though, that's not my intention.

And it's back. It probably comes and goes. But these two are already a long line of inbreed practices.
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Look how in loved they are :D
 
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I'm still confused. If they're brother and sister - even half brother and sister - the stats will be negatively impacted. Cousins are okay though.
 
Honestly, I've never seen that so far in my game.
Maybe I wasn't paying attention.

Either way, I don't mind them inbreeding, but I won't put their offspring on the market either.
They make good porkchops, but I bet with their stats anybody would buy them. :)
 
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