General "Outer" Docking In Medium Landing Pads For Type-7 & Other "Compact" Ships

My proposal to solve the problem of ships like the Type-7, which can fit in the area of the medium landing pad, but don't fit inside the dock due to their height, is to allow them to only dock externally, or rather not being given permission to enter the inner dock.

The game already has some considerations for such scenario: without entering the inner dock you actually have access to most of the features in the dock, from mission board, universal cartographics, refueling & restocking ammo, etc. The only exceptions are 3 services: shipyard, outfitting and livery, which do require going into the inner dock.

Therefore my solution is to allow these ships that can fit in the area of the landing pad to not have access to those 3 services, but otherwise allow them to use the other services that don't require internal docking.

For example: a Type-7 would be able to dock in the medium landing pad of an outpost and have access to most of its services, but even if the outpost can provide outfitting, livery and shipyard services to medium ships, these won't be available for large ships like the Type-7 which fit within the area of their landing pads. Needless to say, they also won't have the option to use the elevator and be moved into the inner dock.

In essence, the same could apply to medium ships that fit in the area of small landing pads, but are also too tall to fit in the internal dock, but I imagine that scenario to be of less concern given the larger availability of medium pads, thus mostly something that could be used if, for instance, all the medium landing pads of a freighter were taken, but a small landing pad was available.
 
On a related note, after trying more ships I can’t help but notice that the Type-7 has noticeable problems when trying to land on a large pad, compared to other ships that is.

There are times I have to literally lift the ship a bit and then slam it into the ground so during the collision motion the game actually registers the landing.

Can’t help but think that the Type-7 wasn’t designed for large landing pads either.
 
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The game already has some considerations for such scenario: without entering the inner dock you actually have access to most of the features in the dock, from mission board, universal cartographics, refueling & restocking ammo, etc. The only exceptions are 3 services: shipyard, outfitting and livery, which do require going into the inner dock.

Would seem bizarre, when loading and unloading cargo we would actually be doing it in vacuum, I find that to be very poor even now that you can load and unload on your carrier while sitting outside in the hard vacuum under the deadly radiation of a Type O star.

Hmm, let me think, no.
 
Would seem bizarre, when loading and unloading cargo we would actually be doing it in vacuum, I find that to be very poor even now that you can load and unload on your carrier while sitting outside in the hard vacuum under the deadly radiation of a Type O star.

Hmm, let me think, no.
Actually, that's how it already works: you can already land without entering the inner dock, conduct all your loading and unloading on the surface, and then launch, which will cause the elevator to go down for a moment simply to rotate the landing pad, so that you are heading towards the mail slot or outside the planetary settlement on your way out.
 
Actually, that's how it already works: you can already land without entering the inner dock, conduct all your loading and unloading on the surface, and then launch, which will cause the elevator to go down for a moment simply to rotate the landing pad, so that you are heading towards the mail slot or outside the planetary settlement on your way out.

I understand that's how it already works, and it's wrong, it never used to do that, I can only imagine they did it to pander to some players dissatisfaction for the time it took to actually get to the loading bay where the loading and unloading facilites actually are, but that's what you get when you listen to random people on the forums I suppose.
 
I understand that's how it already works, and it's wrong, it never used to do that, I can only imagine they did it to pander to some players dissatisfaction for the time it took to actually get to the loading bay where the loading and unloading facilites actually are, but that's what you get when you listen to random people on the forums I suppose.
 
I’m relatively new to the game: was that change before or after limpets were part of the game?

For instance, I could see it being a problem in a “no limpets”version of the game, but I see no reason why, as it stands right now, a station couldn’t simply use limpets to take care of such task in the vacuum in a quick & efficient manner.
 
Or they could just trim the Type 7 model down a bit so it fits on a medium pad? Isn't it only very slightly too tall?

It's always been a little strange that the T-6 is small, but the T-7 and T-9 are both large. Unless there's a Type 6.5 somewhere and I've missed it...
 
I’m relatively new to the game: was that change before or after limpets were part of the game?

For instance, I could see it being a problem in a “no limpets”version of the game, but I see no reason why, as it stands right now, a station couldn’t simply use limpets to take care of such task in the vacuum in a quick & efficient manner.

I think @varonica was just referring to F C pads. All station, outpost and surface pads have a gantry with unloading ramp and conveyor belt feeding into a receiving "box".

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Or they could just trim the Type 7 model down a bit so it fits on a medium pad? Isn't it only very slightly too tall?

It's always been a little strange that the T-6 is small, but the T-7 and T-9 are both large. Unless there's a Type 6.5 somewhere and I've missed it...
Actually, the Type-6 is a medium sized ship, not a small one.

As for the height of the Type-7, according to this blog post on the subject, with landing gear deployed it’s almost 10% taller than the maximum headroom:

 
Actually, the Type-6 is a medium sized ship, not a small one.

As for the height of the Type-7, according to this blog post on the subject, with landing gear deployed it’s almost 10% taller than the maximum headroom:


Ah, it's been a while since I flew a Type 6, it would seem I was incorrect! I guess a Type 7 as a large ship makes a bit more sense now.

Still, those dimensions are just unlucky... Get rid of it's lanky landing gear legs and get a circular saw for the top and I'm sure it'll fit!
 
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