Patreus: Kingpin behind the Emperor's murder

It's very obvious that's all part of a larger Thargoid plot, that loves to see the major human powers exhaust themselves with (civil) war.
 
I have to say that I'm increasingly suspicious of Chancellor Blaine. Logically he was in charge of security and yet someone managed to get a concealed blade past his guards. He's been basically in charge of the Empire since the Emperor fell into a coma and now he has a very strong position as the de facto ruler of the Empire. This plot will discredit Senator Patreus and has prevented the Emperor choosing a successor which means that he is in the prefect position to play Kingmaker or even seize the throne if the two princesses end up fighting over it.

You're not the only one who read that statement with an increasing degree of suspicion. Blaine's running the Empire, Blaine's in control of the investigation, Blaine puts off the issue of the succession until "after the funeral"... On top of that somehow the security scanners don't pick up this concealed weapon, and the Emperor's Guard killed the assailant so he couldn't be interrogated. Anyone else get the feeling that Arissa and Aisling both need to increase their bodyguards, and do it now? This is beginning to sound awfully familiar...

"It is with great reluctance, in wake of this terrible tragedy wiping out the entire Duval line, that I have acceded to the wishes of the Senate, and ascend the marble steps..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo4cFViNLes

P.S. Oh hi Senator... Er... Orgeus? Patrana?!
 
I didn't read the whole thread but I think that Patreus is sooooooo obvious that it couldn't be.
Anders Blaine. He's guilty.


This commander gets it^

Which Galactic leader wasn't in attendance? Now that may be too simple to point the finger of doom at Fed. President Zachary Hudson, but as I posted earlier, it's one heck of an alibi... "It wasn't me! I wasn't even there!"
 
So, while Mrjupp has convinced me I'm being rash--'jumping the gun' as he put it--I still consider Patreus a strong suspect.

Hudson is also a possibility of course, and with both the Federation and Empire having lost their primary leader recently, third parties--including unknown third parties--may also be considered possible.


That is indeed a wise change of mind. While I have to agree about Patreus being suspicious, I also think, like many of us, that jumping to conclusions is premature.
You said yourserlf that Patreus can be sneaky. Well, excuse me for not seeing the sneakiness of hiding your assassin in your own suite of followers. Either patreus in guilty -and an idiot- or he's innocent and being set up. The fact that he has so much to gain from the Emperor's death only strengtens my opinion that someone else is involved: Denton patreus would be the perfect scapegoat, don't you think?

Without further speculation, le'ts also point out that unnecessary intestine conflict can only undermine the Empire, and we should all wait for more information before attacking fellow imperial ships. Not only is it bad for trade, but it also will give an image of weakness and turmoil to our foes -be they internalor external.
 
(All out of character)

My money's on Aisling Duval. She's manipulated Denton Patreus from the start and had the most to lose with Hengist's marriage to Arissa Lavigny-Duval's mother. All those times she slipped off to Patreus' ship are rather suspicious.

I wouldn't be surprised if she's far more cunning than her public image portrays.
 
England had a Mad King, can't remember much happening, it's the sane one's you have to look out for.
Just saying...historically.
No, not a lot. There was a small rebellion in one of the overseas colonies, which resulted in the unremarkable and unremembered "United States" being formed, and a Corsican general threw most of Europe into the bloodiest war since the Thirty Years' War, but you can't really blame that on Georgie.
 
(RP mode ON. Scene: Pilots bar in a station "somewhere in Alliance space")

After listening to the speculation swirling around, the white-haired spacer leans back in his chair as he waves the bartender over for another bottle of Achenar red.

"Thing is, guys, any of 'em could have done it. We can talk about who had most reason to or who would benefit most, who would have been stupid enough, arrogant enough or downright desperate enough to do it but up at that level of political power they just don't think like that. Heck, it's sometimes hard to tell if they think at all given how badly most of 'em screw up. That, right there, is the reason I still fly independent. They have a view of reality distorted by what their people are telling them, they aren't out here making their own credits and getting their hands dirty. Reality likely doesn't figure into why whoever did it offed the Emperor, only their own view of what they could get away with. Only way we'll find out anything real is by looking at one thing."

He paused, taking a sip of his drink.

"We just need to watch for who dies next. Not necessarily anyone at the top but if one or more of their organizations seems to suffer a little house-cleaning in the near future, that's either revenge or somebody cleaning up all the 'talking evidence'. They'll sort it all out between 'emselves by sliding some money around and spilling a fair bit of other folks blood. Now, who wants to concentrate on more important stuff, like maybe helping me kill this bottle?"
 
… The Feds are stupid about who they promote...

That comment made me laugh. I am prince of the Empire. All I had to do was to bring 1t of whatever form a system 5 ly away to an imperial station. The imperials give away the promotions like something completely worthless.

Me a honorable imperial prince. I'm still laughing.
 
"We just need to watch for who dies next. Not necessarily anyone at the top but if one or more of their organizations seems to suffer a little house-cleaning in the near future, that's either revenge or somebody cleaning up all the 'talking evidence'. They'll sort it all out between 'emselves by sliding some money around and spilling a fair bit of other folks blood. Now, who wants to concentrate on more important stuff, like maybe helping me kill this bottle?"

"I hear you, old timer. I'm watching, and waiting. But if Arissa and Aisling die next and Patreus is executed, or at least things try to go that way, I'm pretty damned sure I know who it is. I'll be keeping a close watch on that Chancellor."
 
(RP mode ON. Scene: Pilots bar in a station "somewhere in Alliance space")

After listening to the speculation swirling around, the white-haired spacer leans back in his chair as he waves the bartender over for another bottle of Achenar red.

"Thing is, guys, any of 'em could have done it. We can talk about who had most reason to or who would benefit most, who would have been stupid enough, arrogant enough or downright desperate enough to do it but up at that level of political power they just don't think like that. Heck, it's sometimes hard to tell if they think at all given how badly most of 'em screw up. That, right there, is the reason I still fly independent. They have a view of reality distorted by what their people are telling them, they aren't out here making their own credits and getting their hands dirty. Reality likely doesn't figure into why whoever did it offed the Emperor, only their own view of what they could get away with. Only way we'll find out anything real is by looking at one thing."

He paused, taking a sip of his drink.

"We just need to watch for who dies next. Not necessarily anyone at the top but if one or more of their organizations seems to suffer a little house-cleaning in the near future, that's either revenge or somebody cleaning up all the 'talking evidence'. They'll sort it all out between 'emselves by sliding some money around and spilling a fair bit of other folks blood. Now, who wants to concentrate on more important stuff, like maybe helping me kill this bottle?"

So you were the loner with the recorder listening to my conversations last night

Bill

gawd my head hurts
 
I'd just like to point out the OP is a Lavigny Supporter, and repeated states she is the only one above suspicion
The OP Calls for the Imprisonment and or execution of Patreus and an increasing number of other high ranking imperial like Aisling and the Chancellor.

So the assassin is wearing Patreus Livery,and that is sufficient damning evidence and all of a sudden, the Lavigny woman, according to the OP, has just cause to execute every possible rival to the throne in one go, along with other members of the senate who might oppose her.

No advantage to having the assassination happen before the wedding you say.
Seems like a huge advantage to be able to have all possible pretenders and their allies executed, the senate culled and replaced or dissolved and to come across as the aggrieved daughter, who then becomes the next Domitian.
Then we have the Assassin on the Throne...

And has she already demonstrated the "I will arrange for people to be killed until I get what I want" attitude.

But hey the Assassin wore Patreus livery, and there is no possible, conceivable advantage for "Unable to even have a selfish thought" Lavigny (is she still insisting on adding Duval) for having a part in it before the wedding.

Y'see, this guy has brain. Simple fact of the matter is you Humans can't be trusted. You're just too easily manipulated and capable of very heinous actions.


YOU tell us that, now?
Now i told all my friends about you. What a shameful confession it will be for me, now.
:-(
The greatest trick a Space Banana ever pulled was convincing the Galaxy they were actually a Banana.
But maybe, after experiencing Humankind for all it's "awesomeness", we are now distancing ourselves from your pathetic species.
Your faith in the Thargoids caring is wasted btw. Just saying...they hate you guys a lot.

I sometimes wonder what's it going to be like if you ever hit the galnet news.
Space Banana's never care for Fame or Status, we just watch, and wait, then watch again, then wait then....you get the idea. We're very boring tbh.
If you don't believe me, stare at one of our Sub-species for 15 mins...am I lying?
You'd need to be very bad to get on the wrong side of a Banana.
We just find you Humans very interesting is all.

As I have said before, if she killed him after the wedding she would be suspect number one.
This way she makes Patreus suspect number one and Aisling Number two as a collaborator so eliminates all other contenders to the throne.

Yes, Humans and their insatiable quest for Power.
But what about the wicked witch of the East, Granny Torval?
Has she retired into the Apple business or still a force to be reckoned with?

No, not a lot. There was a small rebellion in one of the overseas colonies, which resulted in the unremarkable and unremembered "United States" being formed, and a Corsican general threw most of Europe into the bloodiest war since the Thirty Years' War, but you can't really blame that on Georgie.

Due to our libraries being destroyed in 2753, we have no record of such an event ever happening, sadly.
As far as we can tell, we had colonies in the Caribbean region of Earth at time but other information is no longer available.
All I can say about your 30 year war is....tsk, you Humans and your guns...you should hug more.
I, for one, am not surprised no one remembers....except you.
Are you a Wizard?
 
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