PC Eggheads would a Intel Hades Canyon be okay

[Borderline Bob]

PC died a while back and using xbox and ps4 to play Elite, have now saved a bit but due to space limitations was thinking of getting a Intel NUC Hades Canyon the 8i7 specifically, my concern is will the
Graphics – Radeon™ RX Vega M GL Graphics 4GB HBM (1280 Cores) be upto the job of running Elite in VR and display it through my Samsung Smart TV (the perfumed Ayatollah is not keen on me replacing the TV with 2 x 31.5 AOC monitors). Any insights would be appreciated.

 

[MickyG1982]

Personally, while it is a very cool concept, I'd rather go all out and build a VR capable rig in a small case. At least that way, when it starts getting on a bit you can simply replace components rather than the whole system.

While good, the GPU in that NUC is slightly slower than a GTX 1060 and lacking 2GB of VRAM (means lower settings). You really would have to make so e compromises if you wanted to use VR.

 

[Borderline Bob]

Personally, while it is a very cool concept, I'd rather go all out and build a VR capable rig in a small case. At least that way, when it starts getting on a bit you can simply replace components rather than the whole system.

setup.

Thanks for your reply, hmm at my age future proofing is not much of requirement (surprised when I make it to the end of the day as it is), as I say size is the main issue so what sort of size would be the minimum for a vr setup.

 

[MickyG1982]

As with everything, it depends on just how much of a budget you have set yourself to buy / build your system.

The smaller & more powerful the system the more you are going to have to pay for it...

If you have a spare £1800 then something like this would work:

MSI Trident 3 Arctic Desktop PC - (Black) (Intel i7-8700 3.2 GHz, 16 GB RAM, 1 TB Plus 256 GB SSD, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 AERO ITX Graphics, Windows 10 Home): Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

Buy

www.amazon.co.uk

It is, of course going to be bigger than the NUC but much more powerful & could be hidden behind the TV or under it where your Xbox / PS4 used to be. With A GTX 1070 installed it would also be very much VR Capable too.

Really feeling adventurous? You could build your own:

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(just an example) but it would blow the socks off most other PC's

Size wise, while small they would still be larger than the NUC however.

 

[Borderline Bob]

As with everything, it depends on just how much of a budget you have set yourself to buy / build your system.

The smaller & more powerful the system the more you are going to have to pay for it...

If you have a spare £1800 then something like this would work:

MSI Trident 3 Arctic Desktop PC - (Black) (Intel i7-8700 3.2 GHz, 16 GB RAM, 1 TB Plus 256 GB SSD, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 AERO ITX Graphics, Windows 10 Home): Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

Buy

www.amazon.co.uk

It is, of course going to be bigger than the NUC but much more powerful & could be hidden behind the TV or under it where your Xbox / PS4 used to be. With A GTX 1070 installed it would also be very much VR Capable too.

Really feeling adventurous? You could build your own:

The Tech Buyer's Guru

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techbuyersguru.com

(just an example) but it would blow the socks off most other PC's

Size wise, while small they would still be larger than the NUC however.

Thanks for the links and advice, size wise the MSI is certainly doable, will look into that, as to own build and despite working in IT for a number of years I have never had the inclination to build my own even though the company I worked for use to build (unbranded) systems for our clients.

 

[Lobey]

I actually have some tablets at work with the Vega M and Intel i7 8705G - we got them for staff who mainly use office applications, make presentations etc, but might on occasion need some light solidworks and autocad capability (for which they are fine - solidworks is, when not being run as recommended on Quadro or Firepro's actually not too bad bad on Vega - versus Nvidia "gaming" cards for instance which are pretty poor).
The 8705G's I have access too, seem in benchmarks to be quite close to the 8809g in the NUC - https://www.notebookcheck.net/8809G-vs-8705G-vs-8706G_9618_9676_9678.247596.0.html
I have actually benchmarked them in Unigine superpostion and they are on par with 4 gb 1050ti's with a similar speed i7 processor in our "standard" laptop which makes them capable of VR but probably a little below ideal - Nvidia 1060 and above are really where you want to be in my own experience.
That said I think they seem pretty good for what they are, temps are good and battery life has been fine.
I'll have one home over next weekend, and will be trying it out on oculus rift amongst a few other tests - let me know if there are any benches you'd like me to run specifically and i'll post the results.

 

[Morbad]

The Hades Canyon setup will suffice, but it would be at the low-end of what I'd consider acceptable for entry level VR headsets, and wouldn't do justice to any higher-end setup.

However, a laptop that is more powerful isn't much more expensive, and a more powerful desktop is less expensive.

 

[Borderline Bob]

Should have mentioned in my original post that "Laptops need not apply" as the space is on a stand which doesn't allow a laptop lid to be open, I have also learnt that I can plug an external graphics card to the Intel Nuc but am still liking the look of the MSI as posted by MickyG