Performance issues with GTX 980

[Aybara]

Good Day to you VR Enthusiasts

I got my DK2 several months ago and lastly enjoyed playing Elite with my System - although I never reached anything above 60FPS.

My system is a Windows 7 with an I7 2600K running at 4.2GHz, Asus MOBO, Asus 760, 16GB, 2 SSD, 680W BeQuite.

So yesterday I received my new Asus Strix 980. I deinstalled the drivers and made a fresh installation of the Nvidia driver (I didn't install the newest one due to the reported issues).
Anyway - the expected performance boost in Elite was...well...disappointing. Reading about all you guys with smooth and silky gameplay with Rift and DK2 I probably expected too much but in fact I partly have even a performance decrease.
I made all the mayor settings in the Nvdia Control panel (mainly using the application settings), settings in Elite is low. Extended mode. All quality settings are set to low or off except the oculus quality setting (max).
Using HDMI or DVI made no difference. I managed to get 2 times nearly 75FPS when in supercruise with nothing big on the screen....

Does anyone of you have any tips where to look for the problem here.

Regards
Aybara

 

[Popopinsel]

Did you set your DK2 to be the primary display or did you set your main/primary display to 75 Hz (maybe you have to lower the resolution to e.g. 1280x1024)?

 

[Smack332]

With your system you should easily reach 75 fps with everything on high/ultra. My GTX970 is steady at 75fps with only shadows set to medium, except slight drops below 75 in busy conflict zones or certain stations (Gorbachev station in Sol is very bad).

Have you tried other games or benchmarks to see if performance there is as expected?

Edit: Did you set VR pre-rendered frames to 1 in Nvidia CP?

 

[Aybara]

Hey there,

thanks for your reply. DK2 is set as second monitor with 75Hz, while my primary one only supports 60Hz. Would I really have to lower the resolution?
Setting the DK2 as primary is nothing I've ever did before. Will try when home again this afternoon. Thanks

Aybara

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Edit: Did you set VR pre-rendered frames to 1 in Nvidia CP?

As far as I know its set to Application controlled. Need to check in an hour.
Thanks for the tip!

Regards
Aybara

 

[Tettric]

While I'm not on a rift using DSR (dynamic super resolution) seems to cause occasional frame drops and judders. If you are using DSR I recommend finding a resolution you can down-sample from without getting framerate issues and then just setting that as the actual resolution of the game rather than allowing your GPU to dynamically decide whether it wants to run at the resolution or not (that's what DSR does).

Anyway, hopefully this is of some use to you. I hope you get your issues sorted out!

 

[Smack332]

Hey there,

thanks for your reply. DK2 is set as second monitor with 75Hz, while my primary one only supports 60Hz. Would I really have to lower the resolution?
Setting the DK2 as primary is nothing I've ever did before. Will try when home again this afternoon. Thanks

This does nothing for me, but some users report an increase in performance. You can check your refresh rate by setting vsync to on. If you're seeing 75 or 37.5 fps then your refresh rate is 75 Hz.

However, regardless of settings (unless using DSR) you should have better performance than before, and be able to run ED at 75 fps with high settings. I would try some benchmarks (3DMark, Heaven etc.) and compare them to expected results for your system. Also check ED performance without the DK2. If that's all as it should be, then the DK2 is probably causing the poor performance, and you can start troubleshooting that (maybe by uninstalling and reinstalling the DK2 runtime).

 

[seansamurai1]

Strange.

im using a gtx770oc myself which is less powerful than the 980, yet I smash through the game at ultra settings and DSR running.

 

[thafred]

Strange.

im using a gtx770oc myself which is less powerful than the 980, yet I smash through the game at ultra settings and DSR running.

In the rift? Thats not strange, that's sorcery!

Reg. OP.

Have almost the same specs (i7 920 @ 4ghz + Zotac 980 amp) and I have to lower shadows to medium and go FXaa to get 75 at extraction sites for 95%+ of the time. Not counting the random glitches and jumps it is a rock solid experience thou. I noticed that even the lowest DSR setting makes it judder so I guess the 980 is right on the edge of powerful enough for e:d

 

[Tavern]

Ok after posting what I am about to post below & seeing other 980 users with the same issues....I'm 100% confident either I've messed some settings up or the 980s are just nutcases w/ OR/ED.

Just posted this in another thread...

I feel like either I've messed something up, or the 980s are just screwy with ED.

Here's my specs, see what you guys think...

Windows 7
EVGA 4Gb 980 GTX
32Gb Corsair memory.
Asus P97 sabretooth.
i7 Haswell @ 3.8Ghz
ED installed on a SDD
DK2

With everything set to low (or off) oculus quality max'd, set at 2560x1440 my experience in stations/open space/USSs are perfect.

However, if I enter a resource collection site (shadows are off mind you) everything goes to hell, also if I reach very high supercruise speeds, it all goes to hell.

Even with everything maxed out & at 2560x1440, I can visit any type of station, fly any ship, go into any USSR, & fly at <80-100c np. No go for asteroid fields or >80-100Cs.

I don't have any FPS information, going to work on that today after work.

Could anyone account for the drastic discrepancy in performance between being in stations & being in an asteroid field. I just feel as if I was able to run ED max'd at with supersamping @ 2560x1440 in every station (Where the majority have FPS issues) with 0 issues, then I should at least have a playable frame rate in an asteroid field @ 2560x1440 with everything set to low/off. It's confounding & frustrating.

 

[Popopinsel]

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The whole Rift thing is still in beta/developer stage. Get over it and don't bother. It's not your computer's fault (although 1440p * ~1.5 render target size @ 75 fps is pretty hefty).

 

[Aybara]

Thanks for your replies!

I tested the rift as primary, as well as all other obvious settings (VR pre-rendered frames). But non brought me to a better performance.
Mind I do not use any DSR. I just ran 3d Mark and got an overall result of ~5700. Since the comparison function is not very useful I can't say how bad this result is. Top 100 in 1GPU users are pretty much above my result. On the other hand I still have an old I7/chipset/Ram and I think this might have a bigger influence here.

My belly tells me there is something wrong and its not simply the system being not overly high end.

Regards
Aybara

 

[Smack332]

Thanks for your replies!

I tested the rift as primary, as well as all other obvious settings (VR pre-rendered frames). But non brought me to a better performance.
Mind I do not use any DSR. I just ran 3d Mark and got an overall result of ~5700. Since the comparison function is not very useful I can't say how bad this result is. Top 100 in 1GPU users are pretty much above my result. On the other hand I still have an old I7/chipset/Ram and I think this might have a bigger influence here.

My belly tells me there is something wrong and its not simply the system being not overly high end.

Regards
Aybara

I have an I5 3570K which has performance similar to your I7, although I've OC to 4.2 GHz. I don't think the CPU should bottleneck you too much.

Which 3D Mark did you run, and in which mode? If you ran 3D Mark 11 in extreme mode then 5700 is as expected. In that case there's probably something with your DK2 that's messing things up. Maybe you could try to uninstall and reinstall the runtime.

 

[Aybara]

I have an I5 3570K which has performance similar to your I7, although I've OC to 4.2 GHz. I don't think the CPU should bottleneck you too much.

Which 3D Mark did you run, and in which mode? If you ran 3D Mark 11 in extreme mode then 5700 is as expected. In that case there's probably something with your DK2 that's messing things up. Maybe you could try to uninstall and reinstall the runtime.

Hi Smack,

I've downloaded the latest version and ran it unchanged. Completely uninstalling DK2 runtime is something I will do this afternoon.
Thanks again for your help.

Regards
Aybara

 

[Smack332]

Hi Smack,

I've downloaded the latest version and ran it unchanged. Completely uninstalling DK2 runtime is something I will do this afternoon.
Thanks again for your help.

Regards
Aybara

Before you do that, maybe you should try running Elite Dangerous without DK2 and check your performance then, unless you have done this already.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

Edit: Did you set VR pre-rendered frames to 1 in Nvidia CP?

Hi

sorry to earwig but I have a GTX980. Elite runs pretty well, am using ultra but with shadows on medium and blur off, but am always looking for ways to get more performance out of my games in VR and do still get a bit of judder from time to time (ETS2 being the worst performer but I digress)

I have never seen this mentioned before........ does this make a big difference? mine is on default as have never touched it.

thanks

 

[CylonSurfer]

Pretty much the same setup as the OP. I run with everything set to the highest available other than: Shadows set to medium, Blur: Off & Ambient Occlusion: Off.

I get a solid 75FPS in all parts of the game unless I join a laggy instance. Running NVidia Inspector I noticed my GPU reach 98% usage last night, so the game does seem to eat a lot of GPU. I would be skeptical of anyone claiming to run at 75FPS with anything lower than a GTX 970 with settings on low and shadows off.

 

[Aybara]

Pretty much the same setup as the OP. I run with everything set to the highest available other than: Shadows set to medium, Blur: Off & Ambient Occlusion: Off.

I get a solid 75FPS in all parts of the game unless I join a laggy instance. Running NVidia Inspector I noticed my GPU reach 98% usage last night, so the game does seem to eat a lot of GPU. I would be skeptical of anyone claiming to run at 75FPS with anything lower than a GTX 970 with settings on low and shadows off.

I pretty much have gone thru any guide that exists but I don't get my machine displaying solid 75FPS. Only a few times I've reached this value.
I guess if its not my system having a hardware based bottleneck, its slowed down by any driver.

regards
Aybara