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Newcomer / Intro Pilot's Federation Rank Thresholds
- Thread starter Sylon
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There's no official numbers from FD. http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Pilots_Federation has links to each rank and what people think are the numbers. However, since they're from players, it may or may not be accurate.
Damn, I was hoping for something definitive. Thanks for the reply.
Today I went from dangerous to deadly and I decided to track the last 4% points of the progression, 96 to 100. This is a very small sample but a few things really stood out. All of the events took place in Barnard's Star 5 high extraction zone, solo play.
The ships I encountered were all mostly expert and above and of all types, from Sidewinders to Anacondas. I engaged all ships within striking distance but did look for high value ships. For those last 4% points I engaged the following:
Elite=7
Deadly=16
Dangerous=18
Master=15
Expert=4
Total=60
Plotting these points give a bell-shaped curve, likely not a coincidence and probably written into the game.
The other numbers that stood out were the total number of kills to gain a % point, these were as follows
96 to 97
15 kills
Elite=3
Deadly=2
Dangerous=5
Master=4
Expert=1
97 to 98
18 kills
Elite=0
Deadly=4
Dangerous=6
Master=7
Expert=1
98 to 99
14 kills
Elite=4
Deadly=3
Dangerous=5
Master=1
Expert=1
99 to 100
13 kills
Elite=0
Deadly=7
Dangerous=2
Master=3
Expert=1
The average number of kills per % point was 15, the lower kills/% point included a higher concentration of Elite and Deadly kills. I have observed that Elite ships are not that common and that in this sample they were roughly 12% of the ships encountered. Deadly, Dangerous and Master made up the bulk at roughly 82% of ships encountered. So if you were to project these figures to achieve Dangerous rank, the total number of successful combats would be from the average 1500+/- and could range from the high number (18) at 1800+/- to 1300+/- depending on the number of high rank ships you encounter. So you have a choice, kill everything in sight, take bounties or be selective and just engage Elites, however they may only make up 12% of the ships you encounter.
One other observation, every once in great while I have run into a ship that flies and fights not at all like the roughly 99% NPC's out there. A 3-wing Eagle flight, a Federal Gunship and an Eagle took out my FAS in short order in two instances, they appeared to be Elites. Then a lone Eagle I interdicted for an opposing power acted human-like and instead of the usual Kamikazi run, executed a perfect escape and boosted before I could close. Anyone else had similar experiences?
The ships I encountered were all mostly expert and above and of all types, from Sidewinders to Anacondas. I engaged all ships within striking distance but did look for high value ships. For those last 4% points I engaged the following:
Elite=7
Deadly=16
Dangerous=18
Master=15
Expert=4
Total=60
Plotting these points give a bell-shaped curve, likely not a coincidence and probably written into the game.
The other numbers that stood out were the total number of kills to gain a % point, these were as follows
96 to 97
15 kills
Elite=3
Deadly=2
Dangerous=5
Master=4
Expert=1
97 to 98
18 kills
Elite=0
Deadly=4
Dangerous=6
Master=7
Expert=1
98 to 99
14 kills
Elite=4
Deadly=3
Dangerous=5
Master=1
Expert=1
99 to 100
13 kills
Elite=0
Deadly=7
Dangerous=2
Master=3
Expert=1
The average number of kills per % point was 15, the lower kills/% point included a higher concentration of Elite and Deadly kills. I have observed that Elite ships are not that common and that in this sample they were roughly 12% of the ships encountered. Deadly, Dangerous and Master made up the bulk at roughly 82% of ships encountered. So if you were to project these figures to achieve Dangerous rank, the total number of successful combats would be from the average 1500+/- and could range from the high number (18) at 1800+/- to 1300+/- depending on the number of high rank ships you encounter. So you have a choice, kill everything in sight, take bounties or be selective and just engage Elites, however they may only make up 12% of the ships you encounter.
One other observation, every once in great while I have run into a ship that flies and fights not at all like the roughly 99% NPC's out there. A 3-wing Eagle flight, a Federal Gunship and an Eagle took out my FAS in short order in two instances, they appeared to be Elites. Then a lone Eagle I interdicted for an opposing power acted human-like and instead of the usual Kamikazi run, executed a perfect escape and boosted before I could close. Anyone else had similar experiences?
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All explained here:
http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Combat
http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Trader
http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Explorer
As a bounty hunter, it takes about 3000 kills to go from deadly to Elite in an arena where you get ships of master and above, like haz RES, Hi RES, HI CZ, etc.. Deadly is approximately the half-way point in kills, but by then, you can kill faster.
The figures in the Wiki tie up more or less exactly with my rankings in trade and exploring.
http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Combat
http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Trader
http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Explorer
As a bounty hunter, it takes about 3000 kills to go from deadly to Elite in an arena where you get ships of master and above, like haz RES, Hi RES, HI CZ, etc.. Deadly is approximately the half-way point in kills, but by then, you can kill faster.
The figures in the Wiki tie up more or less exactly with my rankings in trade and exploring.
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There is a post somewhere which shows the relative "hit points" for each kill based upon your rating and the kill rating, basically it is one point per the same rating and goes down by 0.25 per rating below and up by 0.25 per rating above you.
As I am just to start my climb to Elite I am going to track some points at random intervals to see what the trend is to go from Deadly to Elite. I am starting from 5,657 bounties claimed. Time will tell and it should be fairly easy to discern if reaching Elite requires more kills/% point. Someone mentioned 20/% point, I'll see if that holds up.