Platinum Hotspot has no platinum - missing information

Cooladinho

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There is no information in the pilot's handbook about the reasons why.

What i have found out by others, is, that these ring types contains these types of platinum:

  • Rocky = Platinum core only
  • Metal rich = Platinum core only
  • Metallic = All types of platinum
  • Icy = None

My mistake was, that my hotspot was in a metal rich ring, not a metallic ring and i tried lasermining for more than an hour ...
... and i am not the only one who has fallen into this pitfall.

This is especially hard for new players and even hard to understand for advanced players (until they get the information).


Please take that as a constructive critic.


It would be awesome, if hotspots are shown with more information, for example
"Platinum hotspot (c)" for "Core" only and
"Platinum hotspot (c,ss,s,sd)" for "Core", "SubSurface", "Surface" and "SurfaceDepot".

It would be at least nice, if there is a hint in the pilot's handbook about the meaning of "Hotspot".
 

d8veh

d8veh
Cooladinho said:
There is no information in the pilot's handbook about the reasons why.

What i have found out by others, is, that these ring types contains these types of platinum:

  • Rocky = Platinum core only
  • Metal rich = Platinum core only
  • Metallic = All types of platinum
  • Icy = None

My mistake was, that my hotspot was in a metal rich ring, not a metallic ring and i tried lasermining for more than an hour ...
... and i am not the only one who has fallen into this pitfall.

This is especially hard for new players and even hard to understand for advanced players (until they get the information).


Please take that as a constructive critic.


It would be awesome, if hotspots are shown with more information, for example
"Platinum hotspot (c)" for "Core" only and
"Platinum hotspot (c,ss,s,sd)" for "Core", "SubSurface", "Surface" and "SurfaceDepot".

It would be at least nice, if there is a hint in the pilot's handbook about the meaning of "Hotspot".
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Why not go to a place that has been proven to yield lots of platinum rather than searching aimlessly? Also, you surface mine for platinum. Don't waste your time taking core mining stuff. You need your ship fully-optimised for laser mining to get the best earnings.
Hyades Sector DB-X d1-112 planet 1 inner ring.
 

Northpin

Northpin
Cooladinho said:
There is no information in the pilot's handbook about the reasons why.

What i have found out by others, is, that these ring types contains these types of platinum:

  • Rocky = Platinum core only
  • Metal rich = Platinum core only
  • Metallic = All types of platinum
  • Icy = None

My mistake was, that my hotspot was in a metal rich ring, not a metallic ring and i tried lasermining for more than an hour ...
... and i am not the only one who has fallen into this pitfall.

This is especially hard for new players and even hard to understand for advanced players (until they get the information).


Please take that as a constructive critic.


It would be awesome, if hotspots are shown with more information, for example
"Platinum hotspot (c)" for "Core" only and
"Platinum hotspot (c,ss,s,sd)" for "Core", "SubSurface", "Surface" and "SurfaceDepot".

It would be at least nice, if there is a hint in the pilot's handbook about the meaning of "Hotspot".
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I guess the general consensus, after 7 years, is that players have to do their own research
For mining, the eliteminers section on reddit is a real goldmine... pun intended.
 

Adeliza

A
d8veh said:
Why not go to a place that has been proven to yield lots of platinum rather than searching aimlessly?
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Could be many reasons, I know I like to explore then mine after I find a spot I like, helps break up the monotony of both activities.

Still I agree with OP, but after how many years now of ED existing, I doubt this will happen sadly.
 

Cooladinho

C
d8veh said:
Why not go to a place that has been proven to yield lots of platinum rather than searching aimlessly? Also, you surface mine for platinum. Don't waste your time taking core mining stuff. You need your ship fully-optimised for laser mining to get the best earnings.
Hyades Sector DB-X d1-112 planet 1 inner ring.
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  • I was 8000ly outside the bubble and just liked to do some mining there.
  • Just to have fun: My cutter was equipped with 7x medium sized mining lasers, weapon enhanced distributor, 7A universal multi limpet controller, some 5A collector limpet controllers ... . But fake/wrong hotspot, no fun.
  • Core, surface and lasermining, you name it. I did a lot in horizon and in odyssey (alexandrite, monazite, tritium, platinum and so on). This does not make me good, but at least i got some sort of experience.
 

Cooladinho

C
Northpin said:
I guess the general consensus, after 7 years, is that players have to do their own research
For mining, the eliteminers section on reddit is a real goldmine... pun intended.
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I agree with everything you wrote.

On this particular, i would have wasted "days" on this hotspot issue with "days" of frustation for no reasons, just to find out all by my self. I already wasted some hours. For me personally, this is wrong, even if this is right.
This "Hotspot" thing can be easily prevented or weakened, with no need of game change, by just adding some information. It does not hurt anyone, not even the Sherlock Holmes.
 

d8veh

d8veh
Cooladinho said:
  • I was 8000ly outside the bubble and just liked to do some mining there.
  • Just to have fun: My cutter was equipped with 7x medium sized mining lasers, weapon enhanced distributor, 7A universal multi limpet controller, some 5A collector limpet controllers ... . But fake/wrong hotspot, no fun.
  • Core, surface and lasermining, you name it. I did a lot in horizon and in odyssey (alexandrite, monazite, tritium, platinum and so on). This does not make me good, but at least i got some sort of experience.
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You're mining platinum 8000ly outside the bubble? What are you going to do with it?
 

Northpin

Northpin
d8veh said:
You're mining platinum 8000ly outside the bubble? What are you going to do with it?
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Rat Catcher said:
Sell it later?
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Still a bad idea to drag around the galaxy a carrier full of things that are really a... drag

Mining platinum is best done in the bubble where it can be sold...
Out there mining tritium should be the priority - and mining it as you go, having a reasonably lightweight carrier so it doesnt use too much tritium jumping around
 

Der Guator

Der Guator
Cooladinho said:
and i am not the only one who has fallen into this pitfall.
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no. I also was eager to laser mine painite in the pristine metal rich rings of lawd 26 a long time ago and it also took a good hour until I noticed that there might be none :D

And I like the idea of deep space mining or finding your own special mining location rather than just mindlessly go to the most efficient grind locations. Not everyone wants to max out all the time :)
 

Rat Catcher

Rat Catcher
Northpin said:
Still a bad idea to drag around the galaxy a carrier full of things that are really a... drag

Mining platinum is best done in the bubble where it can be sold...
Out there mining tritium should be the priority - and mining it as you go, having a reasonably lightweight carrier so it doesnt use too much tritium jumping around
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It is still the choice of the FC operator to do as they wish, isn't it?

Perhaps they are playing the game "wrong" according to some others, so what?
 

Dragsham

Dragsham
I kinda see what Op does. Flying about out in the black with his carrier mining as he goes.
But using a cutter allows for ALL kinds of mining to be installed thus removing any chance of finding nowt...simply put, you arrive at a hotspot you scan for cores meanwhile you pop a few prospectors laser mining and scraping and sub surface as u go.
So lesson learned. Have a multirole mining vessel
Also have it run real cold. Lower your signature
 

Dragsham

Dragsham
I'm in open always so...just makes sense to be almost invisible even deployed. Only time my coolerminerconda can be seen is when either your within a few km or her mining beams are working.
 
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Rat Catcher

Rat Catcher
Dragsham said:
I'm in open always so...just makes sense to be almost invisible even deployed. Only time by coolerminerconda can be seen is when either your within a few km or her mining beams are working.
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You missed the "out in the black" comment... Never mind... In the bubble it would make sense to be cool running.
 

d8veh

d8veh
Der Guator said:
no. I also was eager to laser mine painite in the pristine metal rich rings of lawd 26 a long time ago and it also took a good hour until I noticed that there might be none :D

And I like the idea of deep space mining or finding your own special mining location rather than just mindlessly go to the most efficient grind locations. Not everyone wants to max out all the time :)
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but you can find bad places to mine in the bubble. Why travel 8000ly to mine in a bad place?
 

d8veh

d8veh
Dragsham said:
I kinda see what Op does. Flying about out in the black with his carrier mining as he goes.
But using a cutter allows for ALL kinds of mining to be installed thus removing any chance of finding nowt...simply put, you arrive at a hotspot you scan for cores meanwhile you pop a few prospectors laser mining and scraping and sub surface as u go.
So lesson learned. Have a multirole mining vessel
Also have it run real cold. Lower your signature
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You mean you just took a wild guess. Nice theory, but OP was mining for platinum.
 
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K Olley

K Olley
There are no hard and fast rules as to what you can or cannot do out in the black, if the OP wants to mine Platinum then thats his choice, 8,000ly out is not that far into the black anyway.

I mine out in the black on a regular basis, mainly for tritium and the occasional core on the way out and on the way back I increase the types of metals and minerals as I get nearer to civilisation.

Keeping the carrier as light as possible is a good idea especially for the way out and while out exploring, but on a slow run back home you might as well take the time to collect a bit extra and have a hold full of material to sell.
 

d8veh

d8veh
K Olley said:
There are no hard and fast rules as to what you can or cannot do out in the black, if the OP wants to mine Platinum then thats his choice, 8,000ly out is not that far into the black anyway.

I mine out in the black on a regular basis, mainly for tritium and the occasional core on the way out and on the way back I increase the types of metals and minerals as I get nearer to civilisation.

Keeping the carrier as light as possible is a good idea especially for the way out and while out exploring, but on a slow run back home you might as well take the time to collect a bit extra and have a hold full of material to sell.
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Lots of people mine out in the black for different reasons, but I didn't ask you nor anybody else except OP. OP's first post gave clues that OP might not know what he/she's doing, so might need some advice. I didn't ask everybody to invent scenarios, where mining in the black might make sense. I sort of asked OP why he/she was doing it by asking what OP was going to do with the platinum. Why did those guys answer for OP when they have no idea what OP is doing or why? Was it just to show how clever they are? OP didn't give any answer to the question, and other's answers don't really make sense anyway. All we know is that OP is mining platinum with an unoptimised Cutter (7 lasers!!!!) and probably very little experience in deep space. No mention of a fleet carrier. Why do people interfere and not just let OP tell us the story, then we can see if OP needs any help or advice, or the story that OP tells us will all make sense and we can go on to the next thread.

I get the idea from OP's second thread that he/she might have just wanted to see what was there out of curiosity, but there's still the question of what to do with the platinum.
 
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