Engineers Play your way

4gui4

4gui4
I wish I could but I can't the game won't let me.


now I want G5 Multi-cannon - so I need C.I.F - 4 scan bases after got 7 CIF
need Thermic Alloys . military Vessels
need Biotech Condutors - mission rewards always is a pain




All this conversation to say that: to get what I want I will commit a week to get all the materials.

Playing my way would be like this:


C.I:F. 4 bases to scan , 3x4= 12 CIF
Termic Alloys - Military vessels- (clear identification military and civil vessel)
- same kind ship spam same materials always

Biotech Condutors- mission reward - every mission has material reward



It's still hard, steal one or two game days in a week but stop being a torture .
I have lost count of the times I forgot why I started doing something that took so long, it was so complicated that I forgot.

Things are so time-consuming because they don't work as they should as simple as that.
I'm not asking for legs or basket, I'm asking simple mechanics and clear rules.

[alien]
 

redmantab

R
You know what buddy, I totally hear you. I LOVE ED. So much so , that I purchased flight sticks a couple years ago and played it for HOURS on my CV1 VR. But it became something that, gets confusing. I want to log in and look at the stars, but I have to figure out where I am, what engineer I kinda wanna maybe spend hours on, where I go to do the mission, how I'm going to alt tab to read up and temporarily take my vr headset off....maybe just play on my beautiful 4k monitor.....but what do I do again to get x or y or fly these days?

I LOVE depth. ED has tons of it. Maybe it's cause im 38 now and just want to come home, sit at a desk, flip it on, and get right in. I've been playing overwatch cause I can get right in. Far less immersive and it doesn't have the wonder of ED.

I just can't quite get myself back in. I stalk the forums to see what;s going on. Thargoid structures would look so good in VR.....but what 142 things do I need to do first or second...or what? lol just so much. I love it....but it holds me back at times.
 

starman

starman
Yes Elite is not really a 'casual' game. Its a lifestyle choice. You perform sometime repetitive actions to advance.

[video=youtube;Bg21M2zwG9Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg21M2zwG9Q[/video]
 

toasteur

T
the reason for that is quite simple.

creating engaging gameplay which is also expected to last for a reasonable time is very hard.

designing mindless time-consuming gameplay is widely easier to do, in term of design and implementation.

successful games like world of warcraft get away in part with mindless grinding by providing a bounty of different mindless tasks to do, so there is some perceived variety to bury the guly fact that overall the gameplay aspect is very thin.

rng is one of the worst example of time-consuming but boring gameplay: the reward comes only by having either big luck or a lot of resilience about doing the same simple thing again and again.
 

Eli Jack

Eli Jack
I generally have such bad engineering rolls that I'm loathe to commit much time to getting the data/mats necessary to have a good number of slot machine handle pulls but I wanted to at least get better than the 34% G5 FSD roll that I was using. So I made a decision to get the data/mats for at least 50 attempts.

Thankfully Dav's Hope removes one layer of RNG leaving just the log on/log off routine to combat the remaining RNG. So 51 Chem Manipulators later and I'm off to get a wake scanner. I find a system in famine with a large pop and settle into a distribution centre instance. Cue hours of mind numbing repetitive scanning of Sideys/Haulers and Adders playing another RNG layer game. I get my 51 Datamined Wake Exceptions and set off to Deciat 6D for some rock shooting.

Racing around playing RNG layer 1 (find the rock), RNG layer 2 (the right rock), RNG layer 3 (rock has Arsenic). Finally get 51 Arsenic and as I'm already in Deciat it's a short hop to Grandma's house.

I have enough mats/data for 51 G5 FSD rolls. This time I must get better than 34% OM, it stands to reason. Lo and behold I do get a better roll, one of 53% OM with tolerable negative outcomes. Yippee!

The thing is, RNGesus has decided to do what he does best i.e. be a random git and I get that roll on the very first pull of the handle. :mad:

It's about time that FDev put RNGesus as a pilot of an NPC ship so I can have the pleasure of filleting him/her with extreme prejudice everytime we meet. I'd also take every, 'Take out Pirate Lord RNGesus' mission I saw just to kill him/her over and over and over. They could also have passenger missions to transport criminal RNGesus somewhere and I'd fly him to the nearest black hole and dump him in it, every time.

I just hope I read on Galnet that the first confirmed Thargoid killing was of pilot RNGesus.
 
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