Player Minor Faction protection
- Thread starter Starwolfe
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It includes any system that a PMF is present including one that it has expanded into. I believe I read this in the PMF submission thread or could have been the PMF general discussion thread but that's what it is.
Well if your PMF is still actively partaking in BGS then all the power to you that your space be protected. What is frustrating is when systems are forever locked to new PMFs because one player made a fake group one time, requested a PMF before August 2017 when PMFs required a minimum group of 10 and then went inactive. All this happening while groups of 100+ struggle to get a PMF in game, awesome. Salt over.
Now that's a funny point, considering my PMF has been quite literally just me.
Think I was one of the last groups to make it before that minimum membership requirement too...
Me too. Only applied for a PMF to help protect against incursion into at least a small part of the region we have liberated from Empire control over the past three years.
It was only after we applied that it was realised that the democratic systems were automatically protected from having any other government type inserted.
What?
In what way?
I am well aware that a PMF can expand into a system another PMF exists.
What I am curious about - and seems to have been answered - is that a new PMF cannot be inserted into the game where an existing PMF is.
Also, Colonia is different from the main bubble in that regard I think, seeing as its almost exclusively PMFs, isn't it?
It is supposed to be no insertions into home systems, however, there have been some mistakes made, Lugh, being one of them where CSG existed prior to beta and just had, within the last 6 months, another group inserted there.
There has been no discussion on how, or if, this was going to be repaired...but it is a mistake that has occurred in the past.
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What?
In what way?
This isn't exclusive to democrats, it's part of the requirement of the application: "Your desired minor faction has to be the same as the systems faction." While this displays FD's usual lack of precision (and grammar), we interpret this as meaning that the proposed PMF must be of the same government type as the controlling faction when the viability checks are done.
Or it could refer to the factions' Allegiance. Or both. Who can tell?
Another requirement is: "The requested system must also contain a star port", but we have a now defunct PMF that was plonked down in a system that has just one base, an outpost - one can only wonder why they gave up.
My Federal Corporation was instered into the system when the Federal Democracy was in charge.
The native Corporate is Independent.
The requirement I read as the system must have a native group of that government type, or combination present.
Curious insight into the Starport bit. Wonder if that exclude Planetary-only systems as well.
The native Corporate is Independent.
The requirement I read as the system must have a native group of that government type, or combination present.
Curious insight into the Starport bit. Wonder if that exclude Planetary-only systems as well.
I assume "star port" in this context means "something with landing pads", rather than specifically "an orbital station with large pads"
You would have difficulty adding a new minor faction to Colonia without adding it to a system which already had at least one PMF in - there are currently only 5, and 2 of those are locked systems. With one early exception who got added out here the "normal" way before the CEI got going, PMFs out here get a new system, with 1 new surface planetary port under their control (all services except shipyard and black market), 60% influence, and Colonia Council as a padding faction at 40%.
Slightly over half the local factions are PMFs (42/81)
I suspect that you are right, but it is sloppy. The Elite Dangerous Game Manual v1.03 consistently diferentiates between the two as does the unofficial(?) ED Wiki.
_trent_
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My understanding of the rules was that the only way to get a faction into Colonia was to win a place in the CGs that we had in the first few months of 2017. If there was enough demand for more player factions out there, they'd probably have more CGs to decide which one(s) gets added.
Jane Turner
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We've got three pmfs in one system and 2 in a fair few.
Talk about things getting complicated. Not to mention the struggles to keep either out of conflict in that System or trying to engage in one, whatever applies to the playerbase in the various Wings.
Jane Turner
Volunteer Moderator
It was my understanding that FD were avoiding inserting a new player faction into the "registered" home of another player faction, but not safeguarding an expanded system.
AFAIK this means faction's superpower allegiance. If there isn't an Imperial faction in there prior, you can't request your own Imperial PMF to be inserted there and etc. Would make for weird stuff if suddenly an Alliance democracy appeared near Facece or Federal Theocracy on Alioth's doorstep.